The LSX Swap Build Thread
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The LSX Swap Build Thread
Have a 1985 Iroc-Z that I am the original owner. Drove for several years and then collected dust in my garage. Have decided to do a complete tear down and rebuild with a modern drivetrain. Plan is 440CI LSX, 4L60e trans, Moser built 12-bolt, all UMI tubular suspension, sway bars, poly bushings, etc. Complete rewire of car and switching to Holley Dominator EMS. 6-point cage, full paint and body work, and custom leather interior. Wilwood brakes all around along with rebuild of all systems in car not mentioned. Some pics of teardown. I will post more as progress continues.
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Engine Setup similar to what I’ll be using except will have a Air Force intake. Built by Late Model Engines in Houston.
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Moser 12-Bolt. Wavetrac, 3.55 gear, big axles 35 spline.
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Brodix heads with all the bells and whistles. Engine will be N/A. 700FWHP. Mid level power.
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Sold the car to a neighbor about 11 years ago and he spent a little money on it. Tune, new carpet, stereo. Drove about a year then got caught in an affair and wife took him to cleaners. So, bought car back from him. Point of story is he had the entire inside floorboards and rear area “insulated “ with foil backed butyl based roof seam insulation. Kind of crap you get at Lowe’s/Home Depot. Have spent the last week with a vibrating scraper and then wiping residual tar with lacquer thinner. PITA. I know some folks advocate this as poor mans Dynomat. Dont. Just don’t!
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Update: Still cleaning floor pan and rear inside area. Hope to go to fab shop next week for roll cage.
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Engine on the dyno in about 2 weeks. Will post video and pics. Still cleaning interior of car. WD-40 and scraper. PITA.
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LME 440 LSX Longblock Package - STREET KILLER -
700+HP Monster - Pump Gas Compatible 12.0:1
Compressio Ratio - HYDRAULIC ROLLER
Balance & Bluepri... Balance, Blueprint & Assemble Shortblock: fully deburr
block, line hone block w/ ARP main studs, deck block to
desired deck height w/ BHJ deck true fixture, bore block
on 4 axis CNC, Diamond hone block w/ torque plates,
balance crankshaft to 1/4 oz. in. tolerance, hang pistons
on rods, check all bearing clearances, file fit rings,
assemble shortblock. **All Tolerances & clearances
Optomized For Customers Specific Application
GM LSX std. deck. GM Bow Tie LSX race block. Features: priority main
oiling, billet main caps, increased cylinder wall & deck
thickness, 6 bolts per cylinder(for added improved head
gasket sealing. Block comes w/cam plate, rear cover, all
plugs & dowel pins
Compstar 4.125 St... Callies Compstar 4340 forged 4.125" stroke crankshaft w/
2.100" rod journals
Compstar LS L/J. Callies Compstar 4340 6.125" H beam connecting rods
w/ 2.1.." journal and ARP 2000 7/16" bolts
Diamond LS Shelf Diamond forged pistons w/ tool steel wrist pins & anti
friction coating on skirts: Includes stainless chrome top
ring (for high heat applications, napier 2nd (improved oil
control), 3mm oil rings(reduced friction & improved oil
control)
Clevite MS 2199 H mains, Clevite CB 663 H rods, Dura
Bond CH-23 cam bearings
LSX main studs ARP Pro Series 12pt. main stud kit
Assemble Longblo... Assemble Complete Longblock & DYNO TEST
ENGINE: degree cam, check piston to valve clearance,
adjust valve train geometry & lifter pre load, install oil
pump & heads, Modify & Install Covers
Brodix BR7 CNC Brodix LS7 LME CNC Heads: Competition Valve Job,
Flow Testing, Chambers Milled To Desired CC, Titanium
2.200" Intake Valves, Stainless Exhaust valves, LME
Dual Valve Springs (good to .660" lift), Titanium
retainers, machined locators & locks, Viton Valve Seals,
Bronze Guides (chamber volumes measures & adjusted
for compression, CNC work hand blended into valve job,
spring pressures measured & adjusted for camshaft)
LSX 6 bolt studs ARP 2000 Pro Series 12 pt. head studs for LSX 6 bolt
block (offers 40% more clamping force than the standard
ARP 8740 chromoly material)
Cometic MLX R 4... Cometic MLX 6 Bolt Head Gaskets with 1/2" Bolt Holes
For Extreem Boost Applications 4.200" x .51" x 6 bolt x
1/2"
Cam Motion LSx ... Cam Motion 8620 Billet Core Custom LSx Hyd. Roller
Camshaft
LS7. GM LS7 hydraulic roller lifters
Manley 3/8" x .135" Manley One Piece 3/8" x .135" Heavy Wall Pushrods
GM LS7 intake rocker arms
LS7 exh. GM LS7 exh. rocker arms
Comp Cams Comp Cams LS Intake & Exhaust rocker modification
(installed)
Roll Master Dbl. 4... Roll Master Double Roller Timing Set w/Torrington
Bearing & Nitrided Gears
Melling 10295 HP. Melling 10295 high pressure, coated oil pump/ ported
LS2 cover. GM LS2 front cover w/ cam sensor, gasket, seal, and
bolts
GM LS2 GM LS2 valley cover w/ gasket and bolts
LME Billet LS w/... LME Billet Aluminum Valve Covers: Includes two -10
AN Fittings, Two -10 AN Plugs, Factory Gaskets,
Stainless Mounting Hardware.
Powder Coating Powder Coating
GM F body. GM F body aluminu oil pan w/ gasket & bolts
GM F body. GM F Body pick up tube
GM F body. GM F Body windage tray
ATI F-body ATI SFI F-body balancer w/ A/C pulley
ARP LS1. ARP LS1 balancer bolt
MSD LS7 MSD Air Force LS7 Intake Manifold (makes 24HP over
FAST)
NW 102mm Cable Nick Williams Billet 102mm Cable Throttlebody
FAST 65# LS3/LS7 FAST 65# Fuel Injector LS3/LS7
GM Non resistor ... GM Non Resistor Spark Plug Wires
NGK TR6 NGK V Power TR6 spark plugs
GM LS coils GM LS coil pack
ENGINE SPECS FOR THOSE WHO KEEP MESSAGING ME ABOUT THEM.
700+HP Monster - Pump Gas Compatible 12.0:1
Compressio Ratio - HYDRAULIC ROLLER
Balance & Bluepri... Balance, Blueprint & Assemble Shortblock: fully deburr
block, line hone block w/ ARP main studs, deck block to
desired deck height w/ BHJ deck true fixture, bore block
on 4 axis CNC, Diamond hone block w/ torque plates,
balance crankshaft to 1/4 oz. in. tolerance, hang pistons
on rods, check all bearing clearances, file fit rings,
assemble shortblock. **All Tolerances & clearances
Optomized For Customers Specific Application
GM LSX std. deck. GM Bow Tie LSX race block. Features: priority main
oiling, billet main caps, increased cylinder wall & deck
thickness, 6 bolts per cylinder(for added improved head
gasket sealing. Block comes w/cam plate, rear cover, all
plugs & dowel pins
Compstar 4.125 St... Callies Compstar 4340 forged 4.125" stroke crankshaft w/
2.100" rod journals
Compstar LS L/J. Callies Compstar 4340 6.125" H beam connecting rods
w/ 2.1.." journal and ARP 2000 7/16" bolts
Diamond LS Shelf Diamond forged pistons w/ tool steel wrist pins & anti
friction coating on skirts: Includes stainless chrome top
ring (for high heat applications, napier 2nd (improved oil
control), 3mm oil rings(reduced friction & improved oil
control)
Clevite MS 2199 H mains, Clevite CB 663 H rods, Dura
Bond CH-23 cam bearings
LSX main studs ARP Pro Series 12pt. main stud kit
Assemble Longblo... Assemble Complete Longblock & DYNO TEST
ENGINE: degree cam, check piston to valve clearance,
adjust valve train geometry & lifter pre load, install oil
pump & heads, Modify & Install Covers
Brodix BR7 CNC Brodix LS7 LME CNC Heads: Competition Valve Job,
Flow Testing, Chambers Milled To Desired CC, Titanium
2.200" Intake Valves, Stainless Exhaust valves, LME
Dual Valve Springs (good to .660" lift), Titanium
retainers, machined locators & locks, Viton Valve Seals,
Bronze Guides (chamber volumes measures & adjusted
for compression, CNC work hand blended into valve job,
spring pressures measured & adjusted for camshaft)
LSX 6 bolt studs ARP 2000 Pro Series 12 pt. head studs for LSX 6 bolt
block (offers 40% more clamping force than the standard
ARP 8740 chromoly material)
Cometic MLX R 4... Cometic MLX 6 Bolt Head Gaskets with 1/2" Bolt Holes
For Extreem Boost Applications 4.200" x .51" x 6 bolt x
1/2"
Cam Motion LSx ... Cam Motion 8620 Billet Core Custom LSx Hyd. Roller
Camshaft
LS7. GM LS7 hydraulic roller lifters
Manley 3/8" x .135" Manley One Piece 3/8" x .135" Heavy Wall Pushrods
GM LS7 intake rocker arms
LS7 exh. GM LS7 exh. rocker arms
Comp Cams Comp Cams LS Intake & Exhaust rocker modification
(installed)
Roll Master Dbl. 4... Roll Master Double Roller Timing Set w/Torrington
Bearing & Nitrided Gears
Melling 10295 HP. Melling 10295 high pressure, coated oil pump/ ported
LS2 cover. GM LS2 front cover w/ cam sensor, gasket, seal, and
bolts
GM LS2 GM LS2 valley cover w/ gasket and bolts
LME Billet LS w/... LME Billet Aluminum Valve Covers: Includes two -10
AN Fittings, Two -10 AN Plugs, Factory Gaskets,
Stainless Mounting Hardware.
Powder Coating Powder Coating
GM F body. GM F body aluminu oil pan w/ gasket & bolts
GM F body. GM F Body pick up tube
GM F body. GM F Body windage tray
ATI F-body ATI SFI F-body balancer w/ A/C pulley
ARP LS1. ARP LS1 balancer bolt
MSD LS7 MSD Air Force LS7 Intake Manifold (makes 24HP over
FAST)
NW 102mm Cable Nick Williams Billet 102mm Cable Throttlebody
FAST 65# LS3/LS7 FAST 65# Fuel Injector LS3/LS7
GM Non resistor ... GM Non Resistor Spark Plug Wires
NGK TR6 NGK V Power TR6 spark plugs
GM LS coils GM LS coil pack
ENGINE SPECS FOR THOSE WHO KEEP MESSAGING ME ABOUT THEM.
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Engine bay stripped. All wiring out of car. Removed rear impact and side lower body parts. Now on to doors to remove glass, motors, etc. After that roller to fab shop for small floorboard repair(dented) and 6- point safety cage.
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Body at fab shop for roll bar and frame and floorboard work. Then to paint shop.
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Custom cage by Jeff and Greg at Lucas Automotive.
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Driver’s side view. Lower door bars tied into sub-frame connectors.
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You're not going to pass tech at the drag strip. Does that matter or not?
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No. Built mainly for structural strength and some safety makes me feel better. I see cars at the track with no cages and no safety gear and they let them roll down the strip. My car is mostly for the street. If I do go to the track and they won’t let me run, won’t bother me. I didn’t want a Interior I had to crawl in.
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Great start on the build. Your doing it right with all best parts. This car is going to be badass all around car. street, drag, or road race. Cant wait to see more...
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Dyno run completed. 714FWHP, 636Torque. Can someone tell me how to download video?
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Wanna bet? And you still haven't bought a crank scraper yet.
http://www.improvedracing.com/baffle...body-p-75.html
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Wanna bet? And you still haven't bought a crank scraper yet.
http://www.improvedracing.com/baffle...body-p-75.html
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Finishing cleaning T-Top area and other small spots. Have to build a body cart to transport to paint shop. Haven't decided to keep car black or change to a deep dark grey. We'll see.
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Sweet build!
It great to see a Third Gen getting this sort of love.
That looks like an ordeal scraping out that made do sound deadening mess.
It great to see a Third Gen getting this sort of love.
That looks like an ordeal scraping out that made do sound deadening mess.
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PITA. Still a bit of residue all over floorpan. Going to try a different 3M remover tomorrow. Just can't seem to get it all.
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Body completely stripped and ready for paint shop. Waiting on them to be ready for me as they are very busy. Good as I need a break.
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Got my 2”Cowl induction hood today. Arrived in great shape except for a tiny scratch which appears to have been boxed that way. Nothing that can’t be fixed. White stuff at top and bottom of hood top is adhesive from bubble wrap. Ignore.
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Spent some time at Circle-D transmissions in Houston yesterday. They are doing my 4l60e tranny build. The tech building the trans walked me through the process of what they were doing and why they use certain parts in their builds.It was obvious he knows what he is doing. Will pick up tranny and convertor next week.
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Got trans today. 4l60e with billet 3200-3400 stall by Circle D. All HD parts. All the good stuff. Take body to paint soon I’m hoping.
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Getting ready for transport to the paint shop. Car is solid on carriage but have concerns about bouncing on piggyback wrecker. Any wrecker drivers in the forums? Your comments welcome. Also going to secure body to carriage using 2x4 inside floor with bolt through 2x4 then going through all 4 drain holes then into 4x4 of carriage.
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Car on flatbed wrecker to paint shop. Finding a shop to do a complete paint job(top,bottom,and inside) was a PITA. Also finding a shop that does soda/sand blasting was difficult. Amazes me that as big as the car scene is in the Houston Area, how few shops do resto work. While I understand the quick money is in collision work, the amount of work various shops have to turn down is huge. They claim that competent workers are difficult to find. So I wound up using a Corvette Restoration shop. Car will be there about 3 months. The waiting starts.
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Doing that much work to a car doesn't pay well enough. A production shop dealing with insurance is making money on an order of magnitude higher than doing something like that, just a sad truth.
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Paint shop fitting new front clip, hood, and fender. Then once correct remove and strip entire car.
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Body guys did a great job fitting everything, however new hood does not fit perfect. Gap on passenger side a bit wider than drivers side. The downside of aftermarket parts.Not the body man's fault. Something I'll have to live with. But I guarantee every Tom, Dick, and Harry will point it out.