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Old 03-25-2012, 11:36 PM
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Motors in now steering issues.

Hey guys, I dropped my 370 in the car Sunday morning and now I have a bit of a issue. Im running solid moroso mounts with 1" setback plates and a f body front drive system. If I turn the wheel the the right the castle nut hits the fit on the alternator. If I turn to the left a grease zerk hits on the oil pan. Does anyone have a fix for these issues?
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

odd..havent heard of this happening before.not trying to be an a** but are you sure everything was lined up properly with the motor/trans? my lq4 alternator is nowhere close hitting anything and its bigger than the stock fbody alternator. sounds like your plates are either flipped backwards moving your whole setup forward an inch.thats my only guess.take some pics for us to see..that might help sort it out.
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

Nope, everything is bolted up correct. Its right close to the firewall. The plates only bolt up one way.
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

Strange,I havent seen of this issue before for our cars.Are you using the stock k member or is it aftermarket/tubular? Maybe those mounts are too low?What oil pan are you using..and how is the clearance. I used the lsx conversion mount brackets and poly lsx fbody mounts and I got alot of clearance lock to lock of the wheel.Stock kmember and fbody oil pan and the clearance is literally paper thin between them.
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

Using f body plan, f body front drive, stock k member with a big ol notch in it. Plenty of cleanance there. I slapped in my big hawks headers and they fit just fine. Can I take out the zerk fitting after I grease it all and plug it with a set screw for that extra 3/8" clearance? I took a flap disk to the alternator to clearance the aluminum fins for space.
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

They make little plugs for ball joints and tie rods to replace the zerk fittings. If you think thats all you need, you can grab a pack and see if it helps. Nothing wrong with that. Zerk fitting is only used when you grease..after that its useless.

Are you running the f-body alternator or the truck alt? Only thing I can think of is maybe the mount stands you are using are a tad lower than normal, coupled with the bigger truck alternator.

If you are running the stock f-body alt though, I dont see any reason for you to have interference issues. Just start getting rid of what you can!

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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

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They make little plugs for ball joints and tie rods to replace the zerk fittings. If you think thats all you need, you can grab a pack and see if it helps. Nothing wrong with that. Zerk fitting is only used when you grease..after that its useless.

Are you running the f-body alternator or the truck alt? Only thing I can think of is maybe the mount stands you are using are a tad lower than normal, coupled with the bigger truck alternator.

If you are running the stock f-body alt though, I dont see any reason for you to have interference issues. Just start getting rid of what you can!

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They are Moroso solid motor mounts for a thirdgen, so I would assume that they are stock height. Im using the fbody brackets with the fbody alternator. Not sure what to do.

Can i get the grease zerk plugs from autozone or something?
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

Im trying to remember if they have em or not. I know they have packs of fittings... If nothing else, NAPA should have em. They seem to have just about anything. Worse comes to worse, you could use a bolt. Cut most of the threads off or find one super short. Ive done this before. I forget what the threads are, and there could be different sizes, but just take the zerk fitting and find what matches.

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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

when i used a truck alternator it would hit the pitman arm, switching to a f-body alternator that is clocked differently there was no issues
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

It looks to me like the combination of the stock mounts and the setback plates you are using is the problem. I am no expert on this issue, but by looks alone the spohn mounts look to raise the motor up a good bit compared to where the stock mount sits. Is the oil pan resting on the k-member?
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

No, theres 1/4" clearence under the pan.
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Re: Motors in now steering issues.

Wow..Im using a truck alt aswell with the same clocking as an fbody and I dont have any fitment issues.I can change the alt. without jacking the car up and have alot of room.I still think something is mis-aligned here.Ill take pics of my engine bay to compare if need be.My oil pan is a c hair away from resting on the k-member as everyone has always mentioned with using the hawks mounts and not notching the back for extra clearance.
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