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Old 03-27-2009, 05:38 PM
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408 hit the dyno!

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unreal hp through an automatic. i was very happy with the results!
tq is a lil down, but i knew with the big converter it wasnt going to be huge anyway.
it will shine at the track.
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I might have missed it, but what RPM did you peak at?
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Wow - great horsepower, you're gonna have fun with that! That torque number blows my mind though, is the converter really eating all of that???

Should run like a raped ape though!
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sheesh that's like my old combo on the first stage.
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I might have missed it, but what RPM did you peak at?
peak was at 7100. im going to play with shifting it 73-7500 and see where it runs best.

yes. the converter plays a toll on the dyno, i dont know why.
my old cammed 6.0 only put down like 370 something, and i knew it was higher.
buddy had a 346 that only did 330 torque, but it ran low 11's.
nature of the beast.

motor only has 100 miles. the dyno pulls were the 1st to go past 6000 rpms. should pick up another 10 or so hp after some milage.
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Good to hear! Thats a screamer!

Im hoping to peak before 6600rpm, i got stock internals so im tryin to keep them inside the block
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Whats the corrected hp?
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Where did you start the run at? that curve is table top flat. thats kinda weird to see but wow is that a ton of power.

My 383 on a 150 shot! Thats a mid 10 second car
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Re: 408 hit the dyno!

Those are some sick numbers N/A through an auto. I have been following your build threads, and I have to say, I am extremely impressed w/ the outcome.
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Re: 408 hit the dyno!

That converter might be eating up some dyno numbers....but its going to rip the asphalt right off the street and rubber off the tires!!!

Good numbers...Ide be happy with that from a NA street car.

Shifting at 7000+ is a real hoot isnt it? Going from a 5500rpm TOPS 305TPI motor to my motor now was a real learning curve. 7k sounds scary when you arent used to it. haha

Good luck with her!

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Whats the corrected hp?
the 510 is the corrected. it made 513 actual.
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Where did you start the run at? that curve is table top flat. thats kinda weird to see but wow is that a ton of power.

My 383 on a 150 shot! Thats a mid 10 second car
i started around 4000, but the converter flashes at 5200, so the run picks up there.
i hope to run 9.90's with it on motor. if it runs mid 10's, i might burn it.
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That converter might be eating up some dyno numbers....but its going to rip the asphalt right off the street and rubber off the tires!!!

Good numbers...Ide be happy with that from a NA street car.

Shifting at 7000+ is a real hoot isnt it? Going from a 5500rpm TOPS 305TPI motor to my motor now was a real learning curve. 7k sounds scary when you arent used to it. haha

Good luck with her!

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funny stuff! i shifted the head cam 6.0 at 6900. motor wrapped up so fast, it didnt feel like i was spinning it that high.
i wanted to get it on the dyno becuause i thought i had a valvetrain issue. felt like it was stalling out in the upper rpms.
7500 is a long way past 6900. looks like everything is stable, car is spot on with no miss, rattle, or strange noises. felt good in the seat on the dyno as well. very smooth, except for a driveshaft vibration ive had that will never go away. had it balanced 2 times. bout to start over just to see if its really the problem. nothing major, just annoying on the highway at 80 with the 3 spd buzzing 4K.
hope to get it to the track tonight.
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why not a solid roller with that high rpm?
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why not a solid roller with that high rpm?
good question. i had most of the parts to start the build and really didnt have the funding to go solid roller.
i know its going to pick me up a good solid 15-20. it will come later in life.
springs, lifters, pushrods, cam, etc.... its going to be 12-1500 in hard parts to get that rolling.
im going to port my intake before anything else. with a heat gun, the outer 4 cylinders are 2-250 degrees hotter than the center.
several guys have told me im looking at 25-30 by porting the intake.
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why not a solid roller with that high rpm?
thats really not high rpm, 9k, now thats hi rpm
i use to turn my previous engine 7200 rpm. but i had built my engine with proper clearances, oil pump volume and psi, etc. im sure his is equally prepared.
i have taken a stock ls1 engine into the 10's with cam, all supporting bolt ons. turning 6800 rpm.
im building the one for my 3rd gen to turn 7500rpm
a solid roller is not really needed with lsx engines, if i went solid roller it would have be a 13:1 scr with 350-370cfm heads and over 427ci, using a lsx block or such.
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thats really not high rpm, 9k, now thats hi rpm
i use to turn my previous engine 7200 rpm. but i had built my engine with proper clearances, oil pump volume and psi, etc. im sure his is equally prepared.
i have taken a stock ls1 engine into the 10's with cam, all supporting bolt ons. turning 6800 rpm.
im building the one for my 3rd gen to turn 7500rpm
a solid roller is not really needed with lsx engines, if i went solid roller it would have be a 13:1 scr with 350-370cfm heads and over 427ci, using a lsx block or such.
LSX still uses same valves/pushrods/lifters as a SBC, and over 7K rpm is alot out of a hydraulic roller
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all motor, 75 degrees
1.395
6.442
106.62

1.41?
6.444
106.61

not too shabby.
played with the suspension a lil and went the wrong way. killed the tires.
left in high gear one pass. burnout, staged, wasnt thinking.
1.85
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last pass it spun the tires near the shift and got on the limiter.
6.47 at 106
its got more in it all said and done.
i need to tweek the carb just a hair more, and play with the suspension.
it will go 30's for sure. i was wanting 9's on motor and i think ill get it.
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Looks like your pretty close. Thats gotta be near 10.1's 10 flats if not near 9.90's already. Your already quicker than me by 4 tenths and 4mph in the 1/8 and i went 10.6 in the 1/4.

very impressive!
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Re: 408 hit the dyno!

Very nice.


Our 4th gen Camaro (which has a bored out LT1 Corvette engine from a '95 vette) ran about 508 hp on the dyno, and it's just the engine and the bore. Nothing else added yet. Not even an exhaust. Oh, and it's automatic, with t-tops. :P
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Re: 408 hit the dyno!

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all motor, 75 degrees
1.395
6.442
106.62

1.41?
6.444
106.61

not too shabby.
played with the suspension a lil and went the wrong way. killed the tires.
left in high gear one pass. burnout, staged, wasnt thinking.
1.85
7.02
102.97
last pass it spun the tires near the shift and got on the limiter.
6.47 at 106
its got more in it all said and done.
i need to tweek the carb just a hair more, and play with the suspension.
it will go 30's for sure. i was wanting 9's on motor and i think ill get it.
Originally Posted by JD_87Formula
Very nice.
very impressive, man i bet that thing pulls hard :burn:


Our 4th gen Camaro (which has a bored out LT1 Corvette engine from a '95 vette) ran about 508 hp on the dyno, and it's just the engine and the bore. Nothing else added yet. Not even an exhaust. Oh, and it's automatic, with t-tops. :P
so u have a bored stock LT1 pushing 508rwhp thru a 4?
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If you could get 508hp just threw boring a lt1 i dont think anyone would be using the ls1 lol.
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gotta love them lsXs!!
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gotta love them lsXs!!
what kind of paint is your car?
dam that looks cool!
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what kind of paint is your car?
dam that looks cool!
gotta be enhanced!
that blue is sick!
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You guys DO know about camera filters, right?

(Not saying that that's where the color comes from, but there are a LOT of tricks that can be used to enhance otherwise-ordinary photos...)
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Originally Posted by JD_87Formula
Very nice.


Our 4th gen Camaro (which has a bored out LT1 Corvette engine from a '95 vette) ran about 508 hp on the dyno, and it's just the engine and the bore. Nothing else added yet. Not even an exhaust. Oh, and it's automatic, with t-tops. :P
Yeah there's a ton of power to be had from boring engines! That and the fact that its a corvette LT1 and not and f-body LT1 must be adding to the power output. I'm sure thats at the wheels too... haha but seriously why would you even post such pointlessly obvious bs around here?
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Yeah there's a ton of power to be had from boring engines! That and the fact that its a corvette LT1 and not and f-body LT1 must be adding to the power output. I'm sure thats at the wheels too... haha but seriously why would you even post such pointlessly obvious bs around here?
maybe his made 508 on an engine dyno... that sounds about right to me.
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Re: 408 hit the dyno!

stage20, do you have a build thread you could link me to? I will try looking as well incase. I am in planning on putting a 408/t56 in my 92 camaro, and was hoping you had a build thread that could help explain some of the different things it takes to swap a 408 vs. just a ls1.

thats one impressive beast. congrats!
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stage20, do you have a build thread you could link me to? I will try looking as well incase. I am in planning on putting a 408/t56 in my 92 camaro, and was hoping you had a build thread that could help explain some of the different things it takes to swap a 408 vs. just a ls1.

thats one impressive beast. congrats!
i dont have a build thread.
the 408 bolts in no different than an ls1. just about all parts interchange one way or the other.
if you have any questions, or need a specific picture, id be glad to help.
thanks for the comments.
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