Just like the title says. Ive looked, and the only differences I see, for an LT1, are:

A/C location vette and f-body is different
fuel rails for f-body and vette are different
power steering location for vette and f-body is different.

I need to start getting accessories for my engine, and need to know if I can buy from a capri, or vette, or f-body. The block is a 4-bolt 95 LT1. And I pretty much need everything, except the block and heads, oh and the water pump. Ive bought a transmission, and torque converter, and an ECM ( programmed for a 1995 vette) and wiring from Z28r!cer.

By my best guess, Ill need:
A/C compressor
Alternator
Acc. Bracket
balancer/pulley
Optispark (95+)
Power steering pump, and lines
95+ intake with rails, and injectors (the one I bought evidently has a 93 intake, and 95+ rails, with questionable injectors, and bent lines)
idler pulley
EGR
vacuum lines
sensors
and a bunch more stuff Im sure I forgot.
A friend said he has alot of what I need, but he hasnt listed it yet. And Im thinking I might be better off buying another LT1 from a capri, complete, and trying to recover some money on that. Theres one on e-bay for $900, that runs. Will all the accessories and sensors from a capri work? What about the intake, and injectors?

 

Vette and F / B body is the main difference, everything on the corvette is on the drivers side, the others passenger side, Vette accessories will not require clearancing the K member for the a/c compressor to fit, of course unless you pick them up cheap you may spend less buying a tubular K member to avoid that one, than buying vette front drive.

F vs. B body the bracket looks a bit different, but the accessories are still the same pieces.

The balancers and hubs are different, 93-95 f body vs 96/97 F body, not sure on the B body, then the vette balancer is different too.

There is no idler to the f/b body setup, i think the vette setup might use one.

I've seen conflicting info on B body intakes, some i've read says the 4.3 got a diff intake than the 5.7, some other reading says either one could have either intake and you need to check the casting # either way.

 

So, I guess Im just going to be better off buying an f-body accessory drive. And Im really considering the tubular k-member. Saves weight, and supposed to be stronger, plus no clearance issues.

 

It will also make hooking up the a/c much more reasonable, the only set of headers i've had in there that provide enough clearance for the low side line not to get superheated by the #2 primary is edelbrocks, and IMO they arent that great. A tubular K member should allow routing the lines down and below the mount, then forwards like the 4th gen lines run.

 

Let me look I think I have a a/c compressor if I do you can have it. What all do you need fro the egr? It's off a 95 F-body

 

Sorry it took so long.

I need everything really. I think Im just going to buy a blown engine, and grab the stuff from it.

 

Been watching this thread a bit and debating on whether to post..

I am not sure getting a k-member is really a wise solution simply for accessories.. I am still not on the bandwagon for tubular anything up front yet, the durability question mark is still out there, not to say it will fall apart, I just don't see a true benefit yet, durability or weight wise for a daily driver.

I would suggest that you notch your stock k-member, or spend the extra k-member $ on vette accessories. The downside to the vette accessories is cost of the a/c compressor, and initial setup.. mine complete was 800$ from street and performance with everything. I am guessing you can find it for less cruising a boneyard.

I just can't see justifying buying a tubular front end if all you are trying to avoid is notching the k-member.. that money can go to all sorts of go fast goodies.

so my two cents is going for the notch or hammer route and saving yourself some $.

 

Both issues that you seem to be questioning the tubular K member route about are moot points, they have been out far too long to not show any supposed "durability" issues. Weight, its a proven fact they weigh less, not to mention they provide a great deal more clearance than just notching or denting a factory K member. As I stated, they would allow you to bring the lines downward from the compressor using an F body setup then forwards, which is about necessary with anything other than less than ideal edelbrock headers.

Forgive me if i dont see the logic here, spend $500-800 for "vette" accessories, because boneyard finding them just isnt likely to happen, then the added cost of repairs on the car when parts do break because you have to pay corvette tax for replacement parts. All of this to avoid buying something that will make the car lighter, easier to work on, and fit better...

 

Well, Ive been looking, and doing some math, and the tubular K-member will cost me more than just $500. I can get one that uses the stock a-arms, but then Im only saving about 30 lbs. Yes the a/c would be easier, but then Id have to pay someone to install it, and re-align the front end. Im thinking about maybe just getting an A/C relocation bracket. $300 and Im done. Ill just have to get longer lines. And Im hoping and praying I can get all the accessories for around $500. Remember, I basically have just a long block.

Also, while Im asking swap questions. I have a 93 intake, and 95-up rails. Can I use a 93 fuel rail, with 95 up injectors? The 93 injectors are batch fired, but are they physically any different? Cant I just get a 93 rail, and have my 95 injectors flowed and cleaned? Or do I have to just buy an intake and rail together, and put myself behind another $250.

 

If you notice my recommend is for what he is now doing, stick with the stock camaro accessories..

I mentioned the other options. And no, tubular k-members have not been around long enough to have no durability questions for a daily driver, at least not for our cars. I am neutral on the subject, clearance is good, weight loss is negligible, money is high.

I thought I was quite nice in my recommend, I don't think a slap on the head was deserved. I can pick apart your arguments like you did mine but that is a waste of time. I have btdt and done the cost analysis before, just sharing the info.

ON TOPIC: 1993 is an oddball year. The fuel rail crosses at the rear. Also 93 had 22lb injectors. 94-97 had a different fuel rail and intake changed to accommodate that. 94-97 also had 24lb injectors. You can use the later injectors since you are running a 95 vette ecm. So, you can use a 93 intake and rails with the newer injectors.

Good luck, if you have any questions feel free to PM.

 

I have had both setups. It came down to how badly I wanted to keep A/C. I tried every hose configuration I could think of and I could not get the A/C lines to fit at a level I felt was safe and acceptable. The only parts I reused were my hub, alternator and the two bolts that hold the power steering pump to the bracket. I have posted all of the part numbers for the vette stuff before. The A/C compressor for the Vette setup is ridiculous. If you buy it at a parts store it doesn't come with the top plate. I got lucky and found one from another board member.

 

Being that you've actually tried on the a/c hoses as I have, you probably can also see my point about the tubular K member, with one you should be able to take the hoses out facing down like a 4th gen then below the compressor and forwards, making it not matter which headers are used, the only set i've been able to fit a/c on is the edelbrocks, the #2 primary tube staying high and going straight to the back is what makes them allow the low pressure line without a lot of trouble, or just heating it right back up.

 

I can see that. The only way I could get lines to work was to run one between the header and the head. There was no way I was going to do that. If you could run it out the bottom it would make it a lot easier. I would say I can't justify the price of a K member, but I have spent a good bit on my brackets. The original poster will have to decide how important A/C is to him. In retrospect, I should have deleted it and saved some cash. That way my fuel line project and 9 inch project would be complete.

 

Im going to great lengths to make sure everything works just as it should. So the A/C will have to be installed, and blowing cold. Ill pay the $300 for a relocation bracket, if they work. And Ill just have to find someone to make a set of custom length hoses. I can skip the a/c for awhile, but it will work eventually.
Im more worried about the power steering, and fuel lines. Ive read I can use some PS lines from a capri, with some minor tweaking. And thats fine. But I occasionally bend custom lines, and work with AN lines at work. Ive also assembled high pressure hoses. I want something that looks like it came that way from the factory. Kinda like the picture posted below. I know its corvette accessories, but its a clean install.

 

I just realised that engine doesnt have any accessories showing, so heres another clean install.

 

That is actually my car.

 

If you don't want ANY accessories mounted up top, you could copy my Alternator relocation setup that I made last summer just by cutting out a bracket from 3/16" steel: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ght=alternator

I made the $300 LT1 A/C relocation bracket work in the past with 92 V6 A/C lines and a custom made adaptor. I sold it because it didn't look clean but it did work.

I'll be working on something to make the LT1 f-body a/c stock location work hopefully before summer. If I have to, I'll have something custom machined.

 

The second one? Very nice and clean. Where did you get the a/c lines?

And I can fabricate a bracket. It looks like its flat stock (the $300 one). I just wont have time. And sometimes its easier to just buy the bracket. I dont want this to be a 6 month project. But Im changing the engine, transmission, rearend, fuel pump and sender (mine just bad), and re-wiring the engine, to some extent. So, any shortcuts I can take, without effecting the form or function, Ill do it.

Im willing to let the a/c sit for awhile, and make it work later. But its got to work. We have an A/C machine at work, so I can charge/recover/recharge the system anytime I need to.

 

Yes sir! That is mine. I bought the lines from Wayne at hotrodair.com. He was super to work with, very helpful and the delivery was prompt. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I will be more than happy to help.

 

Bingo and I both got our lines from the same place and person I believe.. can't say enought good things about hotrodair they were very willing to listen and give advice. I got the a/c block from them also.

 

If you need pics PM me and I will e-mail them to you. Mine is hooked up and working. I just need to hook up the 4th gen pressure switch to interface with the PCM.

 

Thanks for the pics Bingo.

So, what 3rd gen parts, and 4th gen parts are you using? Im assuming that the condenser, and evaporator, and dryer, are all still 3rd gen parts. Looks like the compressor is from a corvette, right? And the lines and block are custom.

Should work the same as mine. Im probably going to just buy the relocation bracket, and leave the alternator on the passenger side.

So, after Z28r!cer lets me know what accessories he has, I can figure out what else I need.

Engine--------check
Tranny-------check
Wire harness--in progress
ECM----------in progress
Converter-----check


So, I might be able to get this thing going by next year.

 

The only non thirdgen A/C parts are the compressor and hoses. The Vette compressor is the only really expensive part of this setup.