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Which year LT1's should I avoid?

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Old 07-18-2005 | 05:47 PM
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Which year LT1's should I avoid?

Did a search, but LT1 brings up alot you see.

I'm looking for a LT1 to swap into my 89 GTA, cause the bird spun a bearing. BTW, just about everything off the top end is for sale, though the HSR and associated parts is spoken for already.

Which years and car models should i avoid? I know that with some B-body LT1's I can run into the baby LT1, which is bad. However, I'm not exactly too sure on which years and model b-body engines to avoid. I also know that only F-bodies and vettes got the aluminum heads but I figure I can probably get a cheaper deal and later swap aluminum heads on if I want.

Do the Iron LT1 heads support enough lift for me to drop a hot-cam in there? Or do I have to upgrade the springs. I have one laying in my garage and its begging to be put to use.
Old 07-18-2005 | 06:09 PM
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Best year one to get is 95 IMHO, keyed vented opti vs splined non-vented unit in the 94 models. You'll have to swap the springs in either head with the hotcam. The 96 models were the start of OBDII and the 93 models were SD motors that you had to burn chips for to tune instead of programming the PCM directly.
Old 07-18-2005 | 06:22 PM
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Got a lead on a motor.

LT1 out of a 96 Impala SS. All accesories and ECM. But no harness(its hacked up). Fairly low mileage, about 57k.

I know it has iron heads, but that doens't bother me.

$650, sound too good to be true?
Old 07-18-2005 | 07:05 PM
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650 is about reasonable, good deal if its got the trans too.
Old 07-18-2005 | 07:22 PM
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
No trans. :*(.

Any way to make the 96ecm tell the 700r4 to lock up? Or do I have to get a vacuum switch?

If I can, I'll buy a 4l60e and sell my 700r4, probably the better choice.

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Old 07-18-2005 | 10:31 PM
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Get a 4L60E, trying to get your newer pcm to work with the 700R4 is more trouble than its worth.
Old 07-18-2005 | 11:09 PM
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Put a manual lock up switch on your 700R4.

Everything you need to know to do it is right here:
https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...ueswitch.shtml
Old 07-18-2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Knyghtmare
Put a manual lock up switch on your 700R4.

Everything you need to know to do it is right here:
https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...ueswitch.shtml
Good job, now get him a 50,000 ~ pulse per mile signal out of his stock 4000 pulse / mile sender.
Old 07-19-2005 | 12:18 AM
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
I'd rather swap to a 4L60E. Its not like the car has to be up in a weekend. I could spend months swapping it and not be bothered.
Old 07-19-2005 | 11:41 AM
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Good plan.

I wouldnt really avoid any of the years so much as base what i'd pay on the year and model it came from. Any of them you can use a 94-95 pcm on just the same.
Old 07-19-2005 | 11:43 AM
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Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Is it possible to use a 96 pcm from an impala? Or is it not worth the effort? Cause thats what I'm getting, the motor is out of a 96 Impala SS.
Old 07-19-2005 | 12:04 PM
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It will be harder to tune with the OBDII, if you look on some of the Impala boards, alot are doing OBDI conversions which alot favor because of the ease of tuning themselves, plus the cables and software are cheaper.
Old 07-19-2005 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Is it possible to use a 96 pcm from an impala? Or is it not worth the effort? Cause thats what I'm getting, the motor is out of a 96 Impala SS.
You can use it no problem, get it up and running with a $50 vats module to avoid tuning, however when you decide its time to do your own tuning the software for OBDII is about $500, whereas OBDI is about $100~, the $400 you save on software will surely help cover the $75~ you'll spend on an OBDI pcm, and thats not counting getting something for selling your OBDII pcm...
Old 07-19-2005 | 02:58 PM
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The Impy PCM's doesn't have VATS in them, so he'll even save 50 bucks on that as well.
Old 07-19-2005 | 04:02 PM
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From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
I have a hot-cam for it, but today when I was thinking about it I decided to just throw the motor in stock. Why give myself other headaches when I'm doing to have to deal with the wiring anyways. I can always throw a cam in it later when i get aluminum heads.

I'll have headers, and a full exhaust right off the bat becasue I have that right now in my GTA. Hooker 2055's and a SLP 2otL cat-back.
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