FLYNLOW92rs

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:lala:

FLYNLOW92rs

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:lala:

Spdfrk1990

woo hoo no more 305

tpiroc

[Hears holy gospel choir in background as pants are soiled]

FLYNLOW92rs

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:lala:

I have to get to Class, I'll post more info later......

Der91Z

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I wonder why they didn't drop the front subframe like they did Jason's 91' Z28 for his ZZ4 Swap.

http://www.thirdgenresource.com/jasons91z28

tpiroc

I observed that, too. It may be that they discovered how to obtain the clearence they need using a different style motor mount. I'd say "maybe because the SS hood has more clearence", but the vert had an SS hood, too. Hopefully an STB will be no sweat.

Now where was I..... ah yes, pooping my pants with glee & envy

Spdfrk1990

You mean the k-membor i have no idea why they would drop that in a third gen. The ls1 will have plenty of room for the stb.

Dante93GTZ

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How much for the labor for the swap?

FLYNLOW92rs

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I will scan the invoice I get from ThirdGenResouce when i pick up the car and post it on this site, for people to see and get an exact amount of how much the swap costs........

It's not something that is cheap, I'll stress that right now.......I would suggest setting aside at least $10,000 for a nice clean swap with a few goodies also.......

1bad91Z

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Have they set the motor in the engine bay yet?

If you want to run AC with your stock K-member, you are going to have to have them notch it for the LS-1's AC compressor.

86IROCNJ

I'm gonna guess atleast $2000 for labor if i added his parts list up right. Just a guess though! Any other takers for a guess?

87rediroc

Awesome! Looking good. By the way, is it better to bolt or weld in the new motor mounts?

grngryoutmyway

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I would go with welding on that one...unless you think there might be a problem with positioning..in which case you could tac weld and double check

FLYNLOW92rs

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Yes, the motor is in the car, but no picutres of it have been sent to me yet.....

$1,875 for the labor is the estimate that i was given, but i'm not sure if that will be the final number i get when all is said and done.....so i don't want to throw out any numbers until i get everything finalized with the correct information

BTW that's labor for EVERYTHING...

Remove 305 TBI
Remove Transmission
Remove Rear End

Install LS1
Install T56
Install New Rear End
Install New fuel pump
Install all the other stuff as well (STB, SFC, Nitrous)

86IROCNJ

You forgot the exhaust work too! lol j/k man, thats not a bad price really. You figure if they spend a solid 40 hrs on the car and all of the work, it equates to about $50/hr, which tends to be the norm. I also figured in the price for the wheels. Did you buy them from them too or no?

thirdgen88

I would think that now would NOT be the time to get rid of VATS... I almost had my '88 bird stolen once (they tried to steal it from in front of the shop I was going to put my new trans in the next day) and its a scary enough feeling when they don't succeed. Granted, you're not doing the work yourself so it probably wouldn't have as much of an emotional impact, but that would be a lot of $$$ down the tube if it ever got stolen... I'd keep VATS as a precaution or at least put a kill switch in it or something...

I feel much more comfortable with my '91 GTA and VATS...

OutLaw305

Taking out the back seats takes 5 min. Total of 4 bolts to undue.

19doug90

yeah but is it carpeted underneath? what would it look like as soon as the seats came out and what would i have to do to make it look nice

TorchTA

yeah its carpeted in the back.

i had the backs out of my 86 to avoid playing taxi..worked great til people figured out having no back seats gave em more headroom. dammit.

the buckets arent all that uncomfortable without the seats, you just have to watch out for this little 3-4" piece of round bar the seatbacks hook to.

thats the only thing aside from where the tops mount to the sides of the car that you can see.

-JT

AmorgetRS

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LOL, yeah, I had the upper back seat out, with the lower seats in, and everyone loved it. Just gave them a lot more room.

FLYNLOW92rs

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The wheels are on top of the $10,000 that i'm paying them......so figure about $12,000 total for everything......Then the gas to get there, the misc expenses of travel and what not.......It adds up real quick.....

You must loose VATS to get the LS1, I don't know a single person who has done the swap and kept it.....

Oh yeah, custom fitted exhaust should be in that estimate too....

Everyone flips out over the price and tells me i paid WAY too much, but when you sit down and actually crunch the numbers, it comes out right, and in some cases i got some discounts...

A88GTANotchback

all i say is that if ur cars gonnab e that damn sexy after all this REPLACE THE Discolored tanks.

FLYNLOW92rs

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I suppose i could squeeze $20 out of my pocket to get them replaced.......

That will probably make the engine bay look better then the LS1 will.....:lala:

Don't forget the failed attempt to spray paint the caps of those discolored tanks the same color as my car.......(Back in those Fast & Furious inspiried days......).....No idea what i was thinking....

86IROCNJ

It is pricey, but if you are not willing or able to do the work on something like this and you do not know anyone or are not in the "business", it will get expensive! That is what sucks, there is no set price on a lot of stuff like this, so people can put whatever price they want on "custom" work. Only thing the consumer needs to worry about in the end is, if they are happy, and if the work will hold up as well as the mechanic's word, and if they will back it 100%. So, any ETA when it will be done?

FLYNLOW92rs

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I'm hoping for Feb. 21st

The engine is already in the car, parts are on order or already arriving.....So i don't see it taking much longer then 3 weeks.....Oh yeah, the rear end still needs to be replaced.....

25THRSS

Should of done a little cleaning while the engine was out.

Sickness91Z28

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man, that's going to be freakin awesome!

Z28ricer

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Unless they're stupid your VATS should still work to disable your starter relay, the vats just needs to be disabled in the LS1 computer which only controls the fuel injectors.

CaysE

Ditch the wing!








Wow, I'm so jealous of your car. I'd take it with the wing any day. I'd say the days of the thirdgen being "that rusted out ******-wearing-*******-driven 80's wannabe-sportscar" are numbered, with many thanks to FLYNLOW, tpiroc, crazyhawaiian, and a whole slew of others here.

YEEEEEEEEHAWW!!... uh, I mean NICE JOB!

FLYNLOW92rs

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UPDATE:

Called Roy today......Getting a 4th Gen gas tank installed instead of the stock thirdgen one....

Not to much modification needed, but i have no idea on what exactly is involved, but i'll get pictures of it when i get the car back.......

LedZep

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good ole roy, he really helped us out on my back seat.

Kandied91z

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what's the advantage to the 4thgen gas tank? is there something wrong with yours?

FLYNLOW92rs

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My gas tank never got fixed for the recall........And it suffered from fire damage on the neck.....the baffle inside was broken.....

It's lighter and holds more gas too.....

grngryoutmyway

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hmmm...gas tank recall...? maybee I should check into that....
Good luck with your car man, its gonna kick ***. If you go through athens on your way home hit me up I'd love to check it out!

TunedPort 335

Yep I beleive the 4th gen tank is a plastic-synthetic type material, probably a little lighter and won't rust

Can't wait to see what this thing looks like when it comes out

OutLaw305

where would you go to find info about the recall?

FLYNLOW92rs

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Do a search on the boards, info is posted.....

BUT, you will find that dealerships won't honor it anymore because it's over 11 years old.......I believe there is a time frame in which they no longer have to honor a recall.......They didn't fix mine.....

1bad91Z

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I'm sure the motor is in by now, so anychance on you getting a pic or two of the motor in the engine bay?

MrDude_1

hmm. vats.

in 92 it was jsut a simple little pellet resistor on a key.

today its grown to.... uhh.... still the exact same simple little pellet resistor on a key....


they can make VATS work. they SHOULD make it work. its pretty damn effective.

Stevo

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very cool man...your car has grown on me too as i dont think it looks bad with the wing...though not a fan of the wheels(which your fixing that) and the side vents are alright. But thats not point here...your getting a LS1!! So cool and with the T56 and a new rearend..awesome job man cant wait to see all the pics when its done!

bnoon

Very nice to see you're adding some go to the show and whoa! I keep going back and forth on whether or not to dump 10 grand on my car too. 10 grand is only a down payment on a new car, but it can make one hell of a 3rd gen!!!

Chuck!

The LS1 tanks from 99+ got a partially rubber neck right by the tank, too. That'd be cool, but hopefully with the walbro I'll never have to drop it again.

Hope it all works out for you man

FLYNLOW92rs

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I have not recieved any pictures from Roy, but he says he does have them and will e-mail them to me whenever he gets his computer fixed......

He also said he would get back to me to see if VATS can be programmed back into my computer systems.......Waiting on a call from the people that are doing the harness....

No updates other then they are waiting on the harness to arrive.....

The SFC's and STB are probably both going on the car this week....

Only things left as of yesterday are STB, SFC, Wiring Harness, Nitrous, Vette Fuel Rail Covers, Air Intake(doing myself).......hopefully no more then 2 weeks......It's already been 5 weeks......

Stevo

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cant wait!

Z dude

your car is gonna be an animal...Im waiting for the pics of this conversion like it was new **** heres a pic to help while we wait for the car pics....

bnoon

Get ready to feel the wrath of non-third gen related picture police!!! Especially non-work safe pictures like that. Thanks for posting it though.

Do they have any more information available on the fuel tank swap? All I could find in the searches were people talking about doing it. Nobody ever reported finishing a tank swap that I could find...

Z dude

and whats the advantages of doing the 4th gen tank swap??

wyclefsirocz

you need it because an LS1 has a return line for the fuel. where our tanks do not. BTw what exhaust is going on the lS1. ewhat headers.

because u have gotten me kinda jump to find an LS1 and T56.
before i buy a 383/afr/HSr and th700 for my car

cause i'm allready looking at close to 7grand for my new motor and tranny ideas. but if they could swap them out for that kinda money i would get an LS1.

Knyghtmare

Wrong. You do NOT need a 4th gen gas tank to use the LS1. You need an Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator and your set...