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Old 07-05-2007, 06:06 PM
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I started my 4th gen dash swap

I just wanted to tell you all that have put all the good info on this site THANK YOU..... I have used alot of the info on my swap. I have most of the wiring done just need to fab up the heating ducts, and wire up the 96 fog light switch. I will post pics up in a few days. I am real happy with the way it has turned out. Thanks again all
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

well here is were I am so fare. changing color to black also ck it out.






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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

cool stuff, ive debated it but i kinda like our 90-92 dashes. I hate our center console though. Are you also going to be adding a 4th gen console?]

Are you keeping AC / Heat on your car?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Wonder if it's lighter that the stock dash...
I'd love to have one of those just attached to look pretty and hold gauges. I won't need heat after too long.
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Just a tip on the paint for the interior: I'm using Krylon Plastic Fusion satin black spray paint on mine. I'm only putting on one coat, just enough to turn the parts black so too much doesn't build up. I really like the satin black and not the gloss black. The satin black is a little glossy but it looks awesome. Not even sanding the parts either, just cleaning them off with dish soap. The paint will stick to polished plastic in temperatures around 40 degrees, good stuff.
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by Firebat
Just a tip on the paint for the interior: I'm using Krylon Plastic Fusion satin black spray paint on mine. I'm only putting on one coat, just enough to turn the parts black so too much doesn't build up. I really like the satin black and not the gloss black. The satin black is a little glossy but it looks awesome. Not even sanding the parts either, just cleaning them off with dish soap. The paint will stick to polished plastic in temperatures around 40 degrees, good stuff.
I saw you post earlier about the fuion and that is what I used, and man that stuff is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by Stevo
cool stuff, ive debated it but i kinda like our 90-92 dashes. I hate our center console though. Are you also going to be adding a 4th gen console?]

Are you keeping AC / Heat on your car?
I like our dashes if you keep it all stock, but with the 4th gen seats and the 4th gen console it just didnt look right to me, and also I couldnt find a firbird radio pod for a good price. So I desided to do the dash as well, and I did the 4th gen seat belts front and rear also. All my 4th gen stuff installed in my car will keep every one guessing...... lt1/t56, 4th gen interior, 98 brakes. I;m going to have all the bonuses of the 4th gen wit hte 3rd gen looks..... WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. That is my goal anyway
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Great Work! But like Stevo said before I'd never swap my original 91 dash out! I like the cool clean look of the original dash! Fits perfectly to the design of the rest of the car!

but this looks great too I must admit!
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by ssean92
lt1/t56, 4th gen interior, 98 brakes. I;m going to have all the bonuses of the 4th gen wit hte 3rd gen looks..... WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. That is my goal anyway
i'm doing the same exact thing, well with a 4l60e. are you using the third gen wiring, or bringing over the 4th gen harness. I'm thinking about using the 4th gen harness as I have the whole car sitting in the driveway

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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by 3vi1p3nguin
i'm doing the same exact thing, well with a 4l60e. are you using the third gen wiring, or bringing over the 4th gen harness. I'm thinking about using the 4th gen harness as I have the whole car sitting in the driveway
when I did the lt1 I used the 4th gen tied into the 3rd gen, the dash I tied the 4th to the 3rd..... didnt want to mess with wiring the whole thing.
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

On the vent or ductwork, I'm thinking about using an aluminum mesh screen and then glueing foam to that screen to seal the vents better or route the air better. You can get aluminum door screen or window screen from anywhere(walmart, ace hardware, menards,etc.) for about $5 a roll which is plenty. I got the 1/2" foam from an upholstery shop.

Good luck, the dash is looking good so far.
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

thats a good Ideaa. will hav e to look at that. thanks
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

interested in a 4th gen console? or do you have one?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

sorry got one with my dash
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

got the new front carpet in and the rear 4th gen seats, it is taking shape.
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

here is the 4th gen seat belts installed and some of the things i had to do to get the rears in, and the way I moded the fronts to look like stock
Attached Thumbnails I started my 4th gen dash swap-complete-dash-016.jpg   I started my 4th gen dash swap-complete-dash-017.jpg   I started my 4th gen dash swap-complete-dash-013.jpg  
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

here is the others
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

here are the pics, I still have to put the drivers seat in, but that will haveto wait till the engine and tranny are back in, and do the head liner... but close




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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

man thats looking great sean!
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thanks mike
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

My son and I are doing a 95 dash into his 89 Camaro.

How close are your armrests to the sides of the dash?
Did you make up anything to fill the gap between the left most top screw and the firewall or just force it to fit?
Have you hooked up all the heater controls?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Will a 4th gen t-56 console work with the 3rd gen dash? Or will the top of the 4th gen and the radio area on the 3rd gen not align correctly, have a gap, or just not fit?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by Black 86 'bird
Will a 4th gen t-56 console work with the 3rd gen dash? Or will the top of the 4th gen and the radio area on the 3rd gen not align correctly, have a gap, or just not fit?
it will work from what I have seen, just have to get a firebird radio pod for the radio

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My son and I are doing a 95 dash into his 89 Camaro.

How close are your armrests to the sides of the dash?
Did you make up anything to fill the gap between the left most top screw and the firewall or just force it to fit?
Have you hooked up all the heater controls?
I used a spacer for the gap. and for the arm rests they are close but ok. enough room to close the door
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by ssean92
it will work from what I have seen, just have to get a firebird radio pod for the radio
4th gen I am assuming?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

nope I mean 3rd gen
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

nice work......

When we parted a 95 TA, its unbelievable the amount of wiring thats in that interior. I don't think i would have the patience to go through that ....
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

how did it go as far as bolting it in and fit did you have to change out the brackets or make new ones. along time ago i put a 92z in an 85z and had to cut out the spot welds and it was a bit of a pain making sure it lined up properly and now i want to do it to my 91z keep the pics coming
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

the wires isn't to bad, but it does take time., the dash pretty much bolted in, with a little mod, had to cut out the old side brackets, and make a new one for the drivers side. but other then that
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by ssean92
it will work from what I have seen, just have to get a firebird radio pod for the radio



I used a spacer for the gap. and for the arm rests they are close but ok. enough room to close the door
i hope you are doing the 4th gen door panels as well...? i dont hink it would look "right" without them.

btw i got my shift plate in and it looks great, now if i could get the damn thing to run... i got it running when i left your house but it only ran for a couple of days, im stumped..
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Originally Posted by ssean92
the wires isn't to bad, but it does take time., the dash pretty much bolted in, with a little mod, had to cut out the old side brackets, and make a new one for the drivers side. but other then that
Do you have a nice clear pic of the mod you made to the drivers side? I think we need to get ours back in further, it's still about an inch from the firewall mount point. Before the harness went up behind the dash it was closer. I don't think we can get the drivers door pull to clear the dash yet. Did you route the harness up over the steering column?

I have all the wiring pretty much done and functional. We didn't swap the drivetrain so I made an adapter for the speedo signals.
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Originally Posted by maroon88iroc
i hope you are doing the 4th gen door panels as well...? i dont hink it would look "right" without them.
Any pics anywhere of putting the 4th gen door panels on? I have a set here but figured they wouldn't fit because they have an indent in them where they would need to drop inside the door itself.

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Originally Posted by maroon88iroc
i hope you are doing the 4th gen door panels as well...? i dont hink it would look "right" without them.

btw i got my shift plate in and it looks great, now if i could get the damn thing to run... i got it running when i left your house but it only ran for a couple of days, im stumped..

actually I do not plan on doing the door panels. They don't fit well even after all the mods you have to do to the door. but will have to see later. what is your car doing???? I will try to help ya out if I can


Originally Posted by NomadTA
Do you have a nice clear pic of the mod you made to the drivers side? I think we need to get ours back in further, it's still about an inch from the firewall mount point. Before the harness went up behind the dash it was closer. I don't think we can get the drivers door pull to clear the dash yet. Did you route the harness up over the steering column?

my harness is over the dash, and I pretty much cut off all the old brackets from the firewall on the drivers side...
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Originally Posted by ssean92
actually I do not plan on doing the door panels. They don't fit well even after all the mods you have to do to the door. but will have to see later. what is your car doing???? I will try to help ya out if I can
id research the door panels a little more i remember when i was planning on doing this swap i got some good information on the door panel area and there are several people that have done it and it looks 20x better with the newer style door panels on there.

and check out the transmission and drivetrain board, i posted up what was wrong with my car and didnt get much of a response check it out maybe you might know more about it than i do b/c im stumped.
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

i have researched the door panels allot, I don't like the way they fit the 3rd gen door.....although I have seen that the T/A's seem to fit better
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Yeah those door panels are fun to get fitted right. They're a little tight and the bottom is about an inch short but they make everything look more modern. I didnt do the dash, but just the doors make a huge difference.
Your dash is looking great so far though
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

i might try this later, just have to see what I can find in the bird panels
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Man that dash and console looks great. I just bought an 89 IROC, and the interior is a mess. I really like that change over. How did all the wiring crossover? Was it pretty simple or real headache? I really like the way the graphite color interior looks too. Good job!!!

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do a search and you will find all the info on the wiring, it wasnt the bad just time consuming
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Looks very nice. I'm interested in doing this swap aswell. Do you need the dash wiring from the 4th gen?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

no you don't, but will help


I got it wired and the headlights wont come off high beams??????
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

well I finally finished all the wiring and mounted everything, here is a few pics, I just need to find some TA door panels. I also made a panel to move t he window switches.


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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

looks really nice!
i like it
are you going to paint the passenger side dash so it matched the rest of the dash? it looks kinda greyish blue
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

it is actually gray, and don't look as bad as it does in the pics
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

WOW. I love it! What did you do about cruise control? Just bring all the 4th gen stuff over? If anyone on here would like to be paid to do an interior swap for me I could be very generous. I want to get my engine and paint done before the interior, but man I hate wiring. If anyone is short on cash when the time comes, I would be willing to pay 500 plus parts. If that's not fair we can work something out. PM me if interested. - Nate
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

I never hooked you the cruise, with my lt1 swap. I don't do highway driving anymore with this car so it isnt that big of an issue. I am also thinking about taking out the heater stuff also. not sure as of yet though
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

Looks great, sean. I've been working on the same project for awhile. What did you do to fill the gaps on the sides?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

I haven't as of yet. I plan on doing the door panels also, I am kinda waiting till I get those done before I takle that
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

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I haven't as of yet. I plan on doing the door panels also, I am kinda waiting till I get those done before I takle that

hey wanted to know if anyone has just done the 4th gen conversion to their 3rd gen of door panels only? maybe some pics and fitment issues?
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

i want to do a swap also. from the pic it looks like there is some sort of gap between the top part of the dash to where it meets the windshield. Is there a pic missing or is this the way it looks. Does anyone have a more clearer pic of it.
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

yes that is the way till I get the upper dash cut to fit...
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Re: I started my 4th gen dash swap

yea i looked at other posts and seen there is a upper dash. thanks
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