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Old 01-26-2019, 08:21 AM
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Good bye, Phil. You keep saying that you want all of this to go away. Here's your chance. Go away! We have what we need, and since post 258, you provided nothing valid, so good bye.
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[QUOTE=scottmoyer;6277420]We, the members of TGO, have all we need to put this to rest. /QUOTE]

Pay attention to Scott.

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Originally Posted by scottmoyer
Good bye, Phil. You keep saying that you want all of this to go away. Here's your chance. Go away! We have what we need, and since post 258, you provided nothing valid, so good bye.

Scott,

For the record Post 258 is when the fake photos were introduced by chazman.
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I know what I said, Phil. I said you provided nothing valid since 258, so GO AWAY NOW. You have absolutely nothing new to offer us. GOODBYE!
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Charlie posted photos from Facebook that you’ve not been able to prove as faked. Your attempts have been comically childish and your grainy images from the wrong angles prove nothing. The burden of proof is on you Phil, not Scott, not Charlie or anyone else. Instead of providing evidence, you just come in here and disembowel yourself in front of a gathering crowd that finds your incoherent tirade amusing. You are the spectacle, not the car. You gain nothing by continuing to be here, but I get it, pride is a difficult beast to control.

As as I read between the lines in this thread, I’m guessing Scott has additional information that he can post if he so desires. I can’t imagine that working out in your favor Phil, and will only contribute to the garbage fire you’ve created and continue to feed.
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Originally Posted by ray jr
blah , blah , blah nobody cares what your saying .. bunch of garbage
EXACTLY.

We all know the photos of the car are of the real car, thanks to the pics that Phil provided himself to do a comparison of the tail light, and hatch corner clearcoat run. Give it up, Phil. Sheesh. Obviously the man that took the pics knew where to look to find the evidence of the paint work. They are specific areas....not just random pictures. I asked several times for pics to clear it up, and even went out to my own garage and took pics of my car to give examples of what angles to take to prove otherwise. And nothing.

I am also convinced that the car was removed from the auction so no more pics could be taken of it. I see no other reason to do so....after all, it's a $34k car, NOT A $300,000 car. That car is at the low end of Barrett Jackson cars.......not like there should be a security concern about that car when its surrounded by vehicles worth 10x more

I saved all of the close up pics for any future discussion of this car.
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Scott,

thank you I will.

When the material misrepresentation concerning LOT 442.1 and discussion accompanying that ceases here then consistent with that happening no further reply from me will be needed then.
The trouble makers keep posting nonsense and therefore I will continue replying. You are is 100% in control here Scott. You are the moderator.
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GOODBYE, Phil.
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Originally Posted by dagwood
EXACTLY.

We all know the photos of the car are of the real car, thanks to the pics that Phil provided himself to do a comparison of the tail light, and hatch corner clearcoat run. Give it up, Phil. Sheesh. Obviously the man that took the pics knew where to look to find the evidence of the paint work. They are specific areas....not just random pictures. I asked several times for pics to clear it up, and even went out to my own garage and took pics of my car to give examples of what angles to take to prove otherwise. And nothing.

I am also convinced that the car was removed from the auction so no more pics could be taken of it. I see no other reason to do so....after all, it's a $34k car, NOT A $300,000 car. That car is at the low end of Barrett Jackson cars.......not like there should be a security concern about that car when its surrounded by vehicles worth 10x more

I saved all of the close up pics for any future discussion of this car.
you the guy ready to accept the 50,000 dollar challenge?
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You are is 100% in control here Scott.

Thank you. It took you long enough to realize that. You have no grounds or valid arguments. Your threats are falling on deaf ears. We have information that now that completely puts this situation in our control. You should leave. You're only making yourself look worse by sticking around and making more stupid comments.

GOODBYE, Phil.
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Scott,

do do your job and moderate the forum such that the topic ceases.

otherwise this is going to go on for a long time
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thank you I will.

When the material misrepresentation concerning LOT 442.1 and discussion accompanying that ceases here then consistent with that happening no further reply from me will be needed then.
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you the guy ready to accept the 50,000 dollar challenge?
Blah blah blah blah....

Hell I challenged you to provide pics for free and you wouldn't do it LMFAO.

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Why do you keep saying that I need to make this stop? I need to do my job? I've been giving you the opportunity to end this for quite awhile now and yet you continue spewing whatever it is your spewing. We have all mentioned this isn't about the car or the paint issues any longer. This is all about you destroying your own reputation by not ending this. You keep bringing it up, and it just makes you look worse. Remember, Phil, this is on the Internet for the world to see, forever. I don't think anyone can read these posts and hold anything against me for my posts or the posts of others. But, they can all see how you continue to bring this up when you've been given the chance to walk away. Keep going. Every forum might have a link to this someday as a rule of "how to destroy your reputation online".

If you want this to end, WALK AWAY! We don't need you, or your behavior, here.

And for any legal personalities, or major auto related entities "monitoring" this, please remember that Phil was offered an out many times, but he can't leave it alone and is keeping this alive. All over a $34k car that he sold at auction, that nobody here has any vested interest in, and really could care less about.

GOODBYE, Phil.
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I have been watching/reading this mess. I was at Barrett-Jackson on Tuesday, but unfortunately didn’t know about this thread, or I could have looked at the car. All the regulars will be here to support Scott, Okfoz and JT until this ends. One thing I now know, is that there is one person that I will never buy a car from, or sell a car to.
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Originally Posted by CPC Norwood
OKFOZ,

Here is where we are at. TGO has for the purposes of this thread become "fake news". Despite the images posted by our friend Chazman at post 558 and my complete dismantling of that narrative starting at post 589,- several trouble makers (now openly aided and assisted by the moderators) continue to operate a form of Kabuki theater in a purely political context.

You guys are caught. Period - and you know it.

Caught red handed exploiting the good name of the Barrett-Jackson Auction company by misrepresenting the physical condition of LOT 442.1 at Westworld and hosting the images here, all this despite the fact that this entire narrative was proven false starting at post 589.

As of now this shameful activity continues to run right out in the open.

I am asking you for the umteenth time. Think before you post.
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The thread will continue to be monitored.



I had to come out of my retirement on this thread

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Originally Posted by LeonardS
I have been watching/reading this mess. I was at Barrett-Jackson on Tuesday, but unfortunately didn’t know about this thread, or I could have looked at the car. All the regulars will be here to support Scott, Okfoz and JT until this ends. One thing I now know, is that there is one person that I will never buy a car from, or sell a car to.
Thank you Leonard,

because you have posted this commentary this greatly assists the ever growing evidence pile here pertaining to the conduct of TGO in the management of this thread.
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Originally Posted by CPC Norwood


Thank you Leonard,

because you have posted this commentary this greatly assists the ever growing evidence pile here pertaining to the conduct of TGO in the management of this thread.
TGO’s conduct has been stellar........yours, not so much.
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We will soon see shall we?
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WALK AWAY, Phil. BUH BYE!
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Scott,

do do your job and moderate the forum such that the topic ceases.

otherwise this is going to go on for a long time
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Originally Posted by scottmoyer
We have all mentioned this isn't about the car or the paint issues any longer.
Agreed 100%. In my opinion, "whoever" went out of there way to show those paint pictures on FB (if indeed it was intentional) failed because it doesn't take away from the value of the car. It's a thirty year old car with super low miles that was not kept in the greatest of conditions with a cover over it, it was never daily rubbed with a pamper and sealed away from the elements, so I don't know why everyone expects it to be mint condition. I mean hell, there is a picture of it with a piece of wood holding up the hood, so why isn't everyone crying about the hood shocks being bad lol. I mean come on, enough already. The car will continue to go up in value as time marches forward, and that's a good thing. Just let it go guys...

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The threats of legal action are by far my favorite part of this thread.
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The threats of legal action are by far my favorite part of this thread.
I'm still trying to get over the Concourse thingy.




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Yep that meme about sums up this thread
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Yep that’s me at the Hemmings concours.

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Thank you Leonard,

because you have posted this commentary this greatly assists the ever growing evidence pile here pertaining to the conduct of TGO in the management of this thread.

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I wish I cared enough to photoshop the microphone, with an ice cream cone, in the can of Coors photo.... Because that would make me laugh.
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I wish I cared enough to photoshop the microphone, with an ice cream cone, in the can of Coors photo.... Because that would make me laugh.
your conduct is not going to help this situation

think before you post. This may seem funny today but shortly I suspect nobody in charge of this site will be laughing

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GOODBYE, Phil!!! You're making me laugh too much. Was that photo above announcing something at the show, or was it a standup show? This is good comedy now.
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2017
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I hope Wayne is reading this......
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Hope not... this thread is a total embarrassment to TGO
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Hope not... this thread is a total embarrassment to TGO
No, I disagree, I think TGO is fine, but you on the other hand, not so much.....
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looks bigger on TV. Are you sure that photo isn't shopped?

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No we were on the same plane to Barret-Jackson. That’s him
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Mods be moderatin like its hot
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So, what your'e saying Drew is that we, as moderators, are doing our job?
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Wise move but a little on the late side
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You are now
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Nothing prior was deemed necessary for moderation. GOODBYE, Phil!


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