Brand new, never titled black Trans Am..
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Re: Brand new, never titled black Trans Am..
"If you own multiple generations.. there’s just no telling what kind of owner you are.. ha ha"
Yeah..........I'm pretty messed up!
Yeah..........I'm pretty messed up!
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Re: Brand new, never titled black Trans Am..
Bob, That Focus RS thread wasn't on the History forum. I can't be responsible for how other moderators run their forum.
The rules of TGO used to say that all topics needed to be thirdgen related and must stay on topic. Has that changed?
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Re: Brand new, never titled black Trans Am..
To be fair the original poster got bait and switched when thinking he was going to see a thirdgen..
We shouldn’t devote too much time to second gens because those guys tend to be anti-social whenever I try to compliment them at shows/cruise nights..
Gen 1 guys think they’re the top dog (and get annoyed when people pass them up to see the IROC). They only socialize with other 50s and 60s car owners.
Gen 2 guys tend to have heavily modded cars and see third gens as boring and slow.. usually 1 in 5 will have wheelie bars. A little anti social.
Gen 3 guys are passionate about third gens in particular, humble and usually excited to see other Firebirds and Camaros. If I see a thirdgen they are usually pretty stock. Third gen owners will check out a lot of the more unique and modern cars skipping the rows of 50s and 60s Restos and corvettes.
Gen 4 guys are similar to Gen 3 owners and optimistic that they will be the next gen to go up in value. They are humble to the fact people don’t view 4th gens as classics yet.
Gen 5 guys are very welcoming and will try and get you to park with them and be part of the “Camaro club.” They are usually really excited and interested in Third Gens even though they probably have the fastest Camaro at the show.
That’s my stereotyping of Camaro generations based on observation in the wild
So yeah.. let’s not give Gen 2 too much thought.. ha ha
We shouldn’t devote too much time to second gens because those guys tend to be anti-social whenever I try to compliment them at shows/cruise nights..
Gen 1 guys think they’re the top dog (and get annoyed when people pass them up to see the IROC). They only socialize with other 50s and 60s car owners.
Gen 2 guys tend to have heavily modded cars and see third gens as boring and slow.. usually 1 in 5 will have wheelie bars. A little anti social.
Gen 3 guys are passionate about third gens in particular, humble and usually excited to see other Firebirds and Camaros. If I see a thirdgen they are usually pretty stock. Third gen owners will check out a lot of the more unique and modern cars skipping the rows of 50s and 60s Restos and corvettes.
Gen 4 guys are similar to Gen 3 owners and optimistic that they will be the next gen to go up in value. They are humble to the fact people don’t view 4th gens as classics yet.
Gen 5 guys are very welcoming and will try and get you to park with them and be part of the “Camaro club.” They are usually really excited and interested in Third Gens even though they probably have the fastest Camaro at the show.
That’s my stereotyping of Camaro generations based on observation in the wild
So yeah.. let’s not give Gen 2 too much thought.. ha ha
On weekends at Bob's Big Boy Restaurant in Burbank, CA, classic cars, muscle, rods, exotics(new and old), etc., gather for spectacular nights of cars. So one Friday night, a group of local 3rdgens got the spotlighted parking spaces, and the "real" classic/muscle car owners were furious! "Those cars shouldn't even be here! They're not classics! And they're not muscle cars!"
To which, they had to be reminded that most of the 3rd generation was already 25-30 years old, so, yes, 3rdgens are, indeed, true classics and deserved to be there. As for muscle, if the people here on TGO have read anything about the SoCal 3rdgenners, then you know that many of them are getting 350-400+ HP(at the wheels) out of their 3rdgen TPI engines, all of which was brought-to-light. So the 3rdgen owners stood proudly, ready for any challenges. But everyone calmed down, and the night ended-up being a lot of fun.
So as for the respect given us by other generations, as observed by 88IROCvertZ, they don't really give us that much respect. He's being nice and respectful, himself, because, for the most part, most of the other generation owners have little-to-no respect for 3rdgens, in general.
So generally-speaking(meaning, not all, but many): 1st and 2nd gen owners think they're all that and don't accept 3rdgens as classics, muscle, or even family; 4thgen owners got the "new" tech and view 3rdgens as lame and outdated; and 5th and 6th gen owners, many of whom are new to cars, themselves, don't even know that there is a history of generations, as they live in their own, different world, where their cars are new, expensive, built like exotic sports cars, with the highest tech and more power than the gods ever intended--they're like, "That's a 3rd... what?"
I was just an observer at the above event, as I wasn't there with my Formula. But years earlier, when my Formula was a mere 20 years old, so not formally a classic yet, I drove it to a classic car event, where the cars were mostly classics, not necessarily muscle, but REAL classics, from the 1930s through the 70s, also including cars up to the mid-2000s. I happened to park next to a very nice 1967 Camaro, just because it was an open parking space, in a parking lot full of awesome cars, and, ironically, my Formula got a huge amount of positive attention, much more than even the 1stgen next to it, which surprised the heck out of me, as I was only there to observe. But people loved it, asked a lot of questions about it, and then were even more impressed by the fact that I was the car's original owner, and that the car was still all-original. But that event was about classics/cars of all makes and models, and mine was the only 3rdgen, so that's probably why it was not disrespected like it might've been at a generational event.
There, that was 3rdgen-topical, right?
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Re: Brand new, never titled black Trans Am..
Spoke with a few of my friends about the car yesterday and it seems to be one of the worst kept secrets out there in the Pontiac World. Seems they've been fishing with it for years.
My first experience with one of those was my girlfriend senior year in college, she was a cross between Sally Fields and Kristy McNicol and had 1 of the 110 455/4spd/T-top 50th's. The relationship was short and I miss that car.
My current 2nd gen - 14,000 mile day 2 - 73 TA...
My first experience with one of those was my girlfriend senior year in college, she was a cross between Sally Fields and Kristy McNicol and had 1 of the 110 455/4spd/T-top 50th's. The relationship was short and I miss that car.
My current 2nd gen - 14,000 mile day 2 - 73 TA...
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Re: Brand new, never titled black Trans Am..
His daily at the time (late 70's) was an M3 and it was done in tribute or homage to the M1 of the time. It included an over the counter SD 455 built by HO Racing Specialties but that had been plucked from it by the time I got it. At some point it will get another one or maybe a Pontiac RA V or a Chevrolet ZL1.
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