Found this article featuring the GTA
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Good article. I thoroughly enjoy the comments by the Blue Oval boys afterwards, what a bunch of fools. And finally someone is saying what we've been thinking for some time. The 80's was a huge decade for the automotive industry.
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yeap...only comments from loyalists of the oval camp. Hence why the rivalry between ford and gm fans will keep going on for years! Hehe...
in any case it was nice reader's read. I enjoyed reading what the 80s was like. Since i'm a 80s child..i've always remembered cars like the irocs, trans ams, and even the monte carlos/grand nationals driving by house...can you tell i've grown up a GM man!? Yet my dad was a blue oval boy and touted they were the best cars ever built....(really a pinto, a tempo, and a escort...were great cars?) LOL! Only reason why he now likes gm is because of Jeff Gordon and that $300.00 Buick Le Saber he bought awhile ago...
in any case it was nice reader's read. I enjoyed reading what the 80s was like. Since i'm a 80s child..i've always remembered cars like the irocs, trans ams, and even the monte carlos/grand nationals driving by house...can you tell i've grown up a GM man!? Yet my dad was a blue oval boy and touted they were the best cars ever built....(really a pinto, a tempo, and a escort...were great cars?) LOL! Only reason why he now likes gm is because of Jeff Gordon and that $300.00 Buick Le Saber he bought awhile ago...
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The 80's was really the best of the worst years for hot rods. Each company had their own version of EFI which has led to today's muscle shootouts.
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Now statements about chrysler weren't accurate. Chrysler was playing with turbo 4 in the early 80s'. Obviously we forget about the '85 Omni GLH, putting out an impressive 146 hp, 168 lb-ft, 122 mph, 0- 60 mph 7.5 sec.
Out of a 2.2 4 banger, thats some serious ****. Considering its evolution through a decade wound up at a staggering 224 hp, 218 ft/lbs, 141 mph, 0-60 5.8 sec...
So the truth is I'm not sure GM was playing with its cars well enough.
So enough said, the T/A; Camaro; and corvette are probably the best known GM iconic cars...So I will give them that.
Out of a 2.2 4 banger, thats some serious ****. Considering its evolution through a decade wound up at a staggering 224 hp, 218 ft/lbs, 141 mph, 0-60 5.8 sec...
So the truth is I'm not sure GM was playing with its cars well enough.
So enough said, the T/A; Camaro; and corvette are probably the best known GM iconic cars...So I will give them that.
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Now statements about chrysler weren't accurate. Chrysler was playing with turbo 4 in the early 80s'. Obviously we forget about the '85 Omni GLH, putting out an impressive 146 hp, 168 lb-ft, 122 mph, 0- 60 mph 7.5 sec.
Out of a 2.2 4 banger, thats some serious ****. Considering its evolution through a decade wound up at a staggering 224 hp, 218 ft/lbs, 141 mph, 0-60 5.8 sec...
So the truth is I'm not sure GM was playing with its cars well enough.
So enough said, the T/A; Camaro; and corvette are probably the best known GM iconic cars...So I will give them that.
Out of a 2.2 4 banger, thats some serious ****. Considering its evolution through a decade wound up at a staggering 224 hp, 218 ft/lbs, 141 mph, 0-60 5.8 sec...
So the truth is I'm not sure GM was playing with its cars well enough.
So enough said, the T/A; Camaro; and corvette are probably the best known GM iconic cars...So I will give them that.
To be fair I think the Grand National could join that list speaking strictly 80's. The thing I was always told with the Mopar cars of that era with any respectable power was that they hadn't figured out how to combat torque steer so when you dropped the hammer you had better hold on.
Like this article said, at the beginning of the 80's the Trans Am was a joke and by the end it was the fastest it had ever been. So that is definitely worthy of respect in my books.
Way to be GM!
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Originally Posted by Mystyk_Wynds View Post
Now statements about chrysler weren't accurate. Chrysler was playing with turbo 4 in the early 80s'. Obviously we forget about the '85 Omni GLH, putting out an impressive 146 hp, 168 lb-ft, 122 mph, 0- 60 mph 7.5 sec.
Out of a 2.2 4 banger, thats some serious ****. Considering its evolution through a decade wound up at a staggering 224 hp, 218 ft/lbs, 141 mph, 0-60 5.8 sec...
So the truth is I'm not sure GM was playing with its cars well enough.
So enough said, the T/A; Camaro; and corvette are probably the best known GM iconic cars...So I will give them that.
To be fair I think the Grand National could join that list speaking strictly 80's. The thing I was always told with the Mopar cars of that era with any respectable power was that they hadn't figured out how to combat torque steer so when you dropped the hammer you had better hold on.
Like this article said, at the beginning of the 80's the Trans Am was a joke and by the end it was the fastest it had ever been. So that is definitely worthy of respect in my books.
Way to be GM!
I bought a brand new 1984 Chrysler Laser Turbo 2.2 5 Speed (I still don't know why) and as mentioned, the torque steer was not kind! But my, it really hauled butt for a 4 banger turbo. I was impressed.... Then I woke up one morning and ordered a loaded 1985 Bright Blue metallic TA 305 TBI.
Now statements about chrysler weren't accurate. Chrysler was playing with turbo 4 in the early 80s'. Obviously we forget about the '85 Omni GLH, putting out an impressive 146 hp, 168 lb-ft, 122 mph, 0- 60 mph 7.5 sec.
Out of a 2.2 4 banger, thats some serious ****. Considering its evolution through a decade wound up at a staggering 224 hp, 218 ft/lbs, 141 mph, 0-60 5.8 sec...
So the truth is I'm not sure GM was playing with its cars well enough.
So enough said, the T/A; Camaro; and corvette are probably the best known GM iconic cars...So I will give them that.
To be fair I think the Grand National could join that list speaking strictly 80's. The thing I was always told with the Mopar cars of that era with any respectable power was that they hadn't figured out how to combat torque steer so when you dropped the hammer you had better hold on.
Like this article said, at the beginning of the 80's the Trans Am was a joke and by the end it was the fastest it had ever been. So that is definitely worthy of respect in my books.
Way to be GM!
I bought a brand new 1984 Chrysler Laser Turbo 2.2 5 Speed (I still don't know why) and as mentioned, the torque steer was not kind! But my, it really hauled butt for a 4 banger turbo. I was impressed.... Then I woke up one morning and ordered a loaded 1985 Bright Blue metallic TA 305 TBI.
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I love the arguments of the Blue oval guys just whining and crying that the mustang was not the premise of the article... ONe guy is going off about how the mustang would be faster if the TTA did not have a Turbo... Then goes on about how the Mustang was faster than the Camaro and Trans Am, and the fact that the Mustang outsold the Camaro and Firebird...
I held my tongue, and let it pass... The only reason why the Mustang was faster was it was a cheap econobox with a big engine. It was only a little bigger than Chevette with a V8, and you add to that the sales were higher because it was a cheap POS in the day and was very homely, even with the gaudy GT from 1987-93...
I think the mustang of today (05-14) is much more attractive, I wouldn't mind owning one of those with the right trim.
I held my tongue, and let it pass... The only reason why the Mustang was faster was it was a cheap econobox with a big engine. It was only a little bigger than Chevette with a V8, and you add to that the sales were higher because it was a cheap POS in the day and was very homely, even with the gaudy GT from 1987-93...
I think the mustang of today (05-14) is much more attractive, I wouldn't mind owning one of those with the right trim.
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I love the arguments of the Blue oval guys just whining and crying that the mustang was not the premise of the article... ONe guy is going off about how the mustang would be faster if the TTA did not have a Turbo... Then goes on about how the Mustang was faster than the Camaro and Trans Am, and the fact that the Mustang outsold the Camaro and Firebird...
I held my tongue, and let it pass... The only reason why the Mustang was faster was it was a cheap econobox with a big engine. It was only a little bigger than Chevette with a V8, and you add to that the sales were higher because it was a cheap POS in the day and was very homely, even with the gaudy GT from 1987-93...
I think the mustang of today (05-14) is much more attractive, I wouldn't mind owning one of those with the right trim.
I held my tongue, and let it pass... The only reason why the Mustang was faster was it was a cheap econobox with a big engine. It was only a little bigger than Chevette with a V8, and you add to that the sales were higher because it was a cheap POS in the day and was very homely, even with the gaudy GT from 1987-93...
I think the mustang of today (05-14) is much more attractive, I wouldn't mind owning one of those with the right trim.
I too would buy a new Mustang though!
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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The generation from 1982-1992 shaped up something like this
Total Firebird & Camaro production (there is some discrepancies but I could do this really quick
Year - F-body - Mustang
82 - 295,172 - 130,418
83 - 229,252 - 120,873
84 - 389.896 - 141,480
85 - 275,898 - 156,514
86 - 302,682 - 224,410
87 - 226,383 - 159,145
88 - 158,742 - 211,225
89 - 175,145 - 209,769
90 - 55,539 - 128,189 (Can you really count this it was not even a half year production)
91 - 131,158 - 98,737
92 - 95,187 - 79,280
I love proving morons wrong... So for a whopping 3 years (88,89 & 90) one of which was about a 2/5 year production you cannot justify that idiot's comment... What is probably interesting is the worse the economy, the more the mustang sold (for good reason)
Total Firebird & Camaro production (there is some discrepancies but I could do this really quick
Year - F-body - Mustang
82 - 295,172 - 130,418
83 - 229,252 - 120,873
84 - 389.896 - 141,480
85 - 275,898 - 156,514
86 - 302,682 - 224,410
87 - 226,383 - 159,145
88 - 158,742 - 211,225
89 - 175,145 - 209,769
90 - 55,539 - 128,189 (Can you really count this it was not even a half year production)
91 - 131,158 - 98,737
92 - 95,187 - 79,280
I love proving morons wrong... So for a whopping 3 years (88,89 & 90) one of which was about a 2/5 year production you cannot justify that idiot's comment... What is probably interesting is the worse the economy, the more the mustang sold (for good reason)
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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While the new stangs do a lot well, I think they are ugly, esp the new celica/Taurus looking thing.
I'd rather have the fox mustang.
I'll take a 93 cobra, cobraR or a 92-3 blue GT with silver/gray bottom, gray int and a white or black top.
I'd rather have the fox mustang.
I'll take a 93 cobra, cobraR or a 92-3 blue GT with silver/gray bottom, gray int and a white or black top.
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TTOP.....I hope this don't turn into a Mustang discussion. Good friend of mine had a 93 Cobra R.......yeah it was very nice.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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I'm going to have to lock the thread if this continues !!!
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scottmoyer: Good choice on the Mustang. I am as die hard a GM fan as there is, but I was going to shell out for a NEW toy, I couldn't bring myself to buy the UGLY Camaro. It would be a Mustang.
Congrats!
Congrats!
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Wait until the 6th gen Camaro. From what I read it's supposed to use the ATS chassis. Little car + lots of horsies = MOMMA, I'M GOIN FAST!
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Sometimes you just have to wonder about some people.
TTOP350, your not a moderator on this forum so you can't lock this thread without that permission. I will PM you John's username and password so you have his moderator capability to lock this when it get's off topic. Will that work for you?
TTOP350, your not a moderator on this forum so you can't lock this thread without that permission. I will PM you John's username and password so you have his moderator capability to lock this when it get's off topic. Will that work for you?
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Sometimes you just have to wonder about some people.
TTOP350, your not a moderator on this forum so you can't lock this thread without that permission. I will PM you John's username and password so you have his moderator capability to lock this when it get's off topic. Will that work for you?
TTOP350, your not a moderator on this forum so you can't lock this thread without that permission. I will PM you John's username and password so you have his moderator capability to lock this when it get's off topic. Will that work for you?
altho I'm not sure if I can handle the keys to the kingdom in a mature fashion.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Sometimes you just have to wonder about some people.
TTOP350, your not a moderator on this forum so you can't lock this thread without that permission. I will PM you John's username and password so you have his moderator capability to lock this when it get's off topic. Will that work for you?
TTOP350, your not a moderator on this forum so you can't lock this thread without that permission. I will PM you John's username and password so you have his moderator capability to lock this when it get's off topic. Will that work for you?
onnnnnnn second thought... I could only imagine what Tony would do... We could just make him a moderator and then he could be accountable to himself.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
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As a Moderator, you cannot talk about the government and how they have great power, yet micromanage, nor take any responsibility. That is something we cannot talk about... Nor like how President such and such is/was a complete dufus. Even if it is true...
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