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Old 01-03-2012 | 10:06 AM
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1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Asking again since there is a wealth of knowledge here. The reason I ask is that I was told that the 85 TPI motor 305/350 was a very special motor and I read that early production motors were hand assembled.
Thus I ask if it was a common thing for the engine builder to initial the bottom of the pan after assembly. There are wax initials on the bottom of my pan.

Ill take pics
Old 01-03-2012 | 10:59 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Please take pics and I will have to look at mine. Mine is a Norwood car, so if yours is VanNuys, it might just have been something one guy did there are youre the lucky one that got it.
Old 01-03-2012 | 11:02 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Originally Posted by Motown
Please take pics and I will have to look at mine. Mine is a Norwood car, so if yours is VanNuys, it might just have been something one guy did there are youre the lucky one that got it.

Will do Ill post it tonight as Ill be finishing my shift kit install.
Old 01-03-2012 | 11:50 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

What kind of shift kit are you putting in? Planning more mods to it? I kinda liked how stock that car was
Old 01-03-2012 | 11:55 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Originally Posted by Jason E
What kind of shift kit are you putting in? Planning more mods to it? I kinda liked how stock that car was
LOL its a repair on the TV using the SK700jr.

Stock all the way unless there are some internal faults that need correcting. I weighed out so many way of repairing the stuck shuttle valve in the Valve body.
Let me know what you think so far after reading it.
Here is the write up on it.
http://www.nttga.net/forums/showthre...read-with-pics!
Old 01-03-2012 | 11:55 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

I can't imagine that a hand assembled engine would be viable in a $15k car. These aren't exactly AMG or ZR1 engines.
Old 01-03-2012 | 12:00 PM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

The only real difference in the '85 LB9s was that they came equipped with the L69 cam and good gears. In later years, the automatic versions came equipped with what is known as the "peanut cam", (which was essentially, the LG4/L03 cam), and standard 2.73/2.77 gears.

In '91-'92, the non-G92 auto LB9s came standard with the bigger cam, but unless you ordered the G92, (which required a stick on the LB9), they came with the more restrictive L03 exhaust.

The '85 is the hottest version of the LB9 that you could get with an automatic trans.
Old 01-03-2012 | 01:20 PM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Originally Posted by eseibel67
I can't imagine that a hand assembled engine would be viable in a $15k car. These aren't exactly AMG or ZR1 engines.
I read on my vette board an article talking about the TPI engines for 85 were hand built until they could get production ramped up, There were actually pics taken of some ladies assembling the TPI motors for production.
Old 01-03-2012 | 04:27 PM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Originally Posted by cerberus
I read on my vette board an article talking about the TPI engines for 85 were hand built until they could get production ramped up, There were actually pics taken of some ladies assembling the TPI motors for production.
Well ok then. Any of those ladies holding a micrometer?
Old 01-03-2012 | 05:57 PM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

There's nothing whatsoever special about "the engine" in a L98 or LB9. It's just yerbasic 305 or 350 long block, as far as assembly is concerned. Requires absolutely no treatment different in any way from any other 305 or 350 long block.

TPI "the intake system" might have been a different matter... they might have had to hack some together garage-like if they couldn't get the production fixtures built in time. Might at least partially explain why there were so many QC problems with TPI in 85. I had 2 friends with 85 Vettes in 85, and both of em spent as much time in the stealership for the first couple of months, as they did on the road...both for TPI-specific issues.
Old 01-07-2012 | 04:28 PM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Check out this thread, The 85 TPI may have been under rated. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...k-85-iroc.html
Old 01-08-2012 | 02:49 PM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Originally Posted by mr396
Check out this thread, The 85 TPI may have been under rated. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...k-85-iroc.html
I would have to agree. No telling what GM did.




Here are the initials on the bottom of my pan.


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Old 01-09-2012 | 11:34 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Are you sure it's not a quality checkpoint before the pan went on, and not initials ? To me it looks like a paint chip was circled and inspected for a leak (inside), then the inspector simply put a checkmark there when he found it OK.
Old 01-09-2012 | 11:37 AM
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

Originally Posted by xcalibur
Are you sure it's not a quality checkpoint before the pan went on, and not initials ? To me it looks like a paint chip was circled and inspected for a leak (inside), then the inspector simply put a checkmark there when he found it OK.
Not sure of anything but will accept anything that sounds reasonable like your explination.
Old 01-12-2012 | 07:41 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
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Re: 1985 TPI assembly historical question.

I believe that they were all hand assembled.. All engines in those years... Keep in mind that the Corvette engine was hand assembled with white gloves...


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