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Not sure if this is the right place,My 89 Iroc shows 68xxx on the odometer.There are only 5 places on it,Is there any way to know if it has rolled over or is it impossible to know.I know the car sat for about 4 or 5 years.The title dosn't say anything about it having the original miles
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The only way to get anything close is to do a title search and hope the registrations had valid mileage. Many people have experienced that the registration is incorrect and added 100k miles or has removed 100k.
In Florida, when you first register a vehicle, you need to have it at the motor vehicle agency so they can verify mileage and the VIN. You could get a sheriff to do it and have them fill out a special form. The DMV here is not a place I wanted to take my IROC when I moved here so I opted for the Sheriff. I had to prove the mileage was correct because they didn't believe that the car had 11k miles on it at 16 years of age. They actually filled out the form and certified my car at 111k miles. I had to get the form corrected and validated before I left. If I didn't catch it on the spot, my records would show 111k miles when it was registered in 2003.
Not really accurate, but it might be something better than nothing.
In Florida, when you first register a vehicle, you need to have it at the motor vehicle agency so they can verify mileage and the VIN. You could get a sheriff to do it and have them fill out a special form. The DMV here is not a place I wanted to take my IROC when I moved here so I opted for the Sheriff. I had to prove the mileage was correct because they didn't believe that the car had 11k miles on it at 16 years of age. They actually filled out the form and certified my car at 111k miles. I had to get the form corrected and validated before I left. If I didn't catch it on the spot, my records would show 111k miles when it was registered in 2003.
Not really accurate, but it might be something better than nothing.
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What Scott said, a title search is the only way to try and confirm the mileage, to see if yours has been titled after 68k at any point in its life, or titled again at a lower mileage later than it had at an earlier point in its life.
Of course if someone kept the car through over a hundred thousand miles between titling reports, you'd never know.
I hate to say it, but your best bet at this point is carfax.
While it's much easier to tell a 10k mile car from a 110k mile car (obvious, actually), you may still be able to tell the difference between a 68k mile car and a 168k mile car; at 68k miles things should still feel relatively tight. You could always try test driving a well-maintained higher mileage car to see how it feels compared to yours if you're really unsure after looking at the title history.
Of course if someone kept the car through over a hundred thousand miles between titling reports, you'd never know.
I hate to say it, but your best bet at this point is carfax.
While it's much easier to tell a 10k mile car from a 110k mile car (obvious, actually), you may still be able to tell the difference between a 68k mile car and a 168k mile car; at 68k miles things should still feel relatively tight. You could always try test driving a well-maintained higher mileage car to see how it feels compared to yours if you're really unsure after looking at the title history.
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I really can't get behind recommending Carfax. They don't have much information on most of the 80's cars I've run. Worse yet several of the cars I've run have had bad info. For example they guarantee my 83 Camaro has a clear history even though it was rear ended, totalled, and recycled years before I ran the VIN. Another of my cars comes up with a reported mileage problem during the time I've owned the car when there's nothing wrong with any of the paperwork. The point being that it really can't be trusted and definitely isn't worth the money. I ran my cars during promotional periods, when I worked for a dealership, and when friends/family bought a license while car shopping.
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I agree it's not very good but I suppose it's bettr than nothing...marginally.
At least for me it verified the story the original owners told, that she bought it in Iowa, drove it back and forth to Illinois every weekend the first two years, moved there and retitled it, then moved to Minnesota in '97 and put only a couple thousand miles on it those two years before I got it in '99; so for me it gave me peace of mind that they were honest about the car...but FWIW when I bought it (mom's name, I was 15), it doesn't report a new owner in MN...just a new title issued, but when we switched it to my name it recorded it as a new MN owner.
Far from accurate indeed, but probably couldn't hurt IMO. That said, I wouldn't buy a car just because it checks out on Carfax--could've been wrapped around a pole in a single car accident and fixed in a garage with junkyard parts and nobody would ever know.
At least for me it verified the story the original owners told, that she bought it in Iowa, drove it back and forth to Illinois every weekend the first two years, moved there and retitled it, then moved to Minnesota in '97 and put only a couple thousand miles on it those two years before I got it in '99; so for me it gave me peace of mind that they were honest about the car...but FWIW when I bought it (mom's name, I was 15), it doesn't report a new owner in MN...just a new title issued, but when we switched it to my name it recorded it as a new MN owner.
Far from accurate indeed, but probably couldn't hurt IMO. That said, I wouldn't buy a car just because it checks out on Carfax--could've been wrapped around a pole in a single car accident and fixed in a garage with junkyard parts and nobody would ever know.
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This car looks to be in fair shape.small holes in the back lower drivers seat,the others look good.stearing tight.dash cracked! Paint had bubbled on the hood by the vent grills.A small area behind the t-bar.other than that the paint looks good.So I don't think it has ever been totaly repainted.no evedance I have sean.Under side looks good to.front breaks calipers and flex lines had to be replaced because it sat so much they locked up and melted the rubber seal in the caliper.Motor compartment has had a few things altered.Smog stuff out,and I think the alarm has been put to rest.mouse wiring.Splised back together for now.Smokes on start up for a few seconds and clears right up.Seals and such have been wore by weather,About 4 years out side sitting for sure.good tires but not factory.wheels are 16 Iroc's.some plastic's broke but not much.Hatch works but key hole has been knocked out.spare tire is still in it.After market am,fm,cd.I think I'm only the 4th owner.I might be able to get ahold of the guy I got it from and get the other two owners numbers from him.Be my best shot probly.Thanks
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I guess the question is what does it matter? I'm not trying to sound rude or anything here and I understand you wanting to know but there is so many ways to fool these old cars (pre 1995). Since CARFAX did not exist when these cars were made I would not trust it or any other internet service out there. Also since these were not digital odometers I would think anyone with some time and determination could make the odometer say whatever they want it to. And if that didn't work all a person would have to do is hop on ebay and buy a different cluster and then they have different mileage right there, I have heard of many people buying an extra cluster just to avoid racking up to many miles on their original cluster mainly for warranty reasons. I am unsure how OBD2 works if they store the mileage in the ECM or not, I would assume they would because otherwise swapping clusters would still work in new cars.
I guess my question is do your plans change if this car has 68,000 miles or 168,000 miles. I'm not trying to be difficult here but I think you might be chasing a ghost here.
I guess my question is do your plans change if this car has 68,000 miles or 168,000 miles. I'm not trying to be difficult here but I think you might be chasing a ghost here.
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I guess your right,I've got what I got.The parts on it have probly had more wear from sitting than frome driving anyway.Alot of people take milage into consideration when buying cars.I've seen it up on descriptions on about everything.You saying a 89Iroc-z would not be worth any more with 68xxx,than one with 168,xxx. I might have to rethink how I look at the cars I'm seeing up for sale.Thankyou for the imput.I'm learning more every day!Bobby
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And also mistakes could happen,my wife put the TA in her name 7 yrs.ago for my dui stupidities and told them the car had 176,500 miles and it really has to this day 123,168 on it.And I guess I could go to MV and see what I could about it.
And also I bought a dash board out off an 88 TA and put that one in mine and the mileage on that is only 68,243.but I'm putting the original back in,because you can tell the difference between the two the 86 has a 140 speedometer and the 88 has a 120 or something.
And also I bought a dash board out off an 88 TA and put that one in mine and the mileage on that is only 68,243.but I'm putting the original back in,because you can tell the difference between the two the 86 has a 140 speedometer and the 88 has a 120 or something.
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I guess your right,I've got what I got.The parts on it have probly had more wear from sitting than frome driving anyway.Alot of people take milage into consideration when buying cars.I've seen it up on descriptions on about everything.You saying a 89Iroc-z would not be worth any more with 68xxx,than one with 168,xxx. I might have to rethink how I look at the cars I'm seeing up for sale.Thankyou for the imput.I'm learning more every day!Bobby
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