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Old 01-17-2012, 02:53 PM
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

Incorrect. It was considered an 85, and titled as such.

You can't win this argument lol
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If you want proof, post the VIN and you'll find the car is an '85 if it is a "California IROC-Z". You can also post the SPID label found in the glove box. From there, we can show how the car was configured from the factory. No 84 IROC-Zs.

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Hi I am new to thirdgen and I was just cruising around reading things and I came across this thread. I would like just like to point out that there is such thing as a 1984 iroc-z z28. It was introduced in 1984 and was available in automatic in this year only. Came with the 5.0 H.O. (L69). Not saying that the camaro that was on ebay was one of these but if it does not have the iroc decal on the sides then it was made in california being 1 of 500 that was special ordered by people who did not care for the decals. I actually have one of these. It is black with no markings and has the rare gray interior that says camaro up and down the seats in front and in the rear seats and also in the door panels in shades of gray black and white. I did a lot of research when I found it to find out exactly what I had because the car just seemed to have odd detail about it. And I must admit I was completely blown away by what I ended up having and had only paid 500 bucks for it. But he obviously did not know what he had. If you go on youtube.com and look up 1984 iroc-z z28 commercial you will see the actual commercial for when this car was introduced.
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If you go on youtube.com and look up 1984 iroc-z z28 commercial you will see the actual commercial for when this car was introduced.
Interested in the youtube commercial, I found the following for an 84 IROC-Z. Note, however, that about 12 seconds in the license shows 1985.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdAZqxngpWs



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Its funny everytime one of these debates comes up and the mods finally tell them to post the VIN or SPID, then they finally stop convincing everyone of their 82-84 IROC-Z.
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Guess my title must be wrong then. And whoever took the time to swap everything from suspension up I thank them haha because I would've never done it.
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If the title is wrong then I would be very concerned as an owner.
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As soon as spring is here and I uncover I will get my codes and post them. When I looked up vin I learned that it won't tell me if its an iroc or not because its an option. It only tells me its a z28 sports coupe
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Vin numbers match so I'm assuming the titles not wrong.
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VIN however is 1G1AP87G3EL258433. Ill get those codes up as soon as I can.
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The 10th digit in your VIN is the letter "E". Therefore your car is a 1984. Letter "F" is a 1985.
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Did anyone happen to screensave pictures of the car from the original post? I remember the car id just like to get the pics. It had some "interesting" very 80s stuff on it lol.

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Www.iroc-ss.com/history.htm I found on here that says the first car to the public was the 85. The 84 was for testing and designing. Is it possible I ended up with a test and design car?

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Originally Posted by johnson54913
Www.iroc-ss.com/history.htm I found on here that says the first car to the public was the 85. The 84 was for testing and designing. Is it possible I ended up with a test and design car?
Nope! If you posted the VIN above and it decodes as an 84, then you have an 84. Now we need to know what RPO codes are on the car. Also, if the label is missing, what size tires are listed on the door placard? It should tell you the tire size and inflation pressures. If you have that info, we can tell you exactly what you have.
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

You probably have a Z28 that someone put some IROC-Z stuff on. Pictures of car and RPOs?
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

Johnsons car is not a California IROC-Z. Not in '84, not in '84.5, not even in '85. Those 500 cars were all built late in the '85 model year, none with the L69. Period.
He will post his spid in the spring when he uncovers it? What is that car covered with?
If it doesn't have B4Z it's not an IROC-Z. If it doesnt have 1C5 it's not a California IROC.
Uncover it now & show us if you believe you have a case.

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Any chance you have any pics of the car that you can share with us?
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

IROC was introduced in the fall of 84 as an 85 model. No way Mr. Johnson has an "84 IROC," LOL! No such animal. Can't believe you guys are even humoring this.
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sorry, you have an 84 Z28. Please change your profile, you are going to have a hard life on this site with making these horrible mistatements.
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No reason to be harsh. If we can show proof based on his RPO codes, VIN and pictures, he will be a believer. Anybody can say that this didn't happen or that wasn't available, etc. We need to provide proof. You never know, maybe he has something and we might learn a thing or two. Either way, other websites have told him one thing and we are saying something different. Without proof, who does he believe.
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

I love these threads. So many supposed 84 IROC-Zs. And don't forget about all of the factory 350s before 87 and the 350 five speeds from the factory.
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I love these threads. So many supposed 84 IROC-Zs. And don't forget about all of the factory 350s before 87 and the 350 five speeds from the factory.
Ha I just love proving people wrong in those threads!
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Yup, all nonsense! Still, we are here to provide the correct information.
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
No reason to be harsh. If we can show proof based on his RPO codes, VIN and pictures, he will be a believer. Anybody can say that this didn't happen or that wasn't available, etc. We need to provide proof. You never know, maybe he has something and we might learn a thing or two. Either way, other websites have told him one thing and we are saying something different. Without proof, who does he believe.
You are correct, there isn't. This part of the forum is the intellectual side of the 3rd Generation hobby, and we should give him a chance to prove it up, as they say in the law. He won't be able to, but go for it. He will be convinced he has an '84 Z28 with IROC parts. Maybe he'll even bring it back to stock.
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

Well, if you ask the general populace, any Camaro produced from 1982 to 1992 is an "IROC." People call my 91 an IROC all the time.
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

just to weigh in on this. when they made the 84s to test and design. im shure they took a 84 Z and turned it into an iroc. so would have been titled as an 84. i dont know either way but from reading the iroc history it is plausible. and what happened to the 84s that they built.
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Test cars do not have VINs and are made just to test new settings and such before they are put into production. They never make the dealership and are destroyed if not saved for the company collection or something like that. There were no IROC-Zs with the early Z28 body style and they were introduced for the restyled 85 model year only.
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Originally Posted by am muscl
just to weigh in on this. when they made the 84s to test and design. im shure they took a 84 Z and turned it into an iroc. so would have been titled as an 84. i dont know either way but from reading the iroc history it is plausible. and what happened to the 84s that they built.
In addition to what IROCZTWENTYGR8 said, the cars would never be titled, so no they weren't titled as 84s. So it is not plausible.
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not trying to get your panties in a bunch just throwing my 2 cents in. i do know that there are test cars that are titled and make it into the market, but as i said before just my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by am muscl
not trying to get your panties in a bunch just throwing my 2 cents in. i do know that there are test cars that are titled and make it into the market, but as i said before just my 2 cents
We understand its your 2 cents, but where is your proof?
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wheres my proof? every couple years cars come up on barrett jackson that were test or design vehicles. like i said there are some that slip thru the cracks. this one im guessing the guy finally looked at what everyone told him and he finally saw that he doesnt have what he thought
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wheres my proof? every couple years cars come up on barrett jackson that were test or design vehicles. like i said there are some that slip thru the cracks.

Originally Posted by am muscl
test cars that are titled and make it into the market

True... there are old prototypes that appear on Barrett Jackson, but those cars cannot ever be titled, like you claim in the second quote here. Listen carefully when those cross the block. They say that its a bill-of-sale only vehicle.

My point is, if you do have a prototype or test vehicle, it is impossible to get a title from the secretary of state, therefore it is not a legal road vehicle.

Of course this holds true with the countless "84 IROC-Z" threads. Thank God for VIN's and RPO codes that always tell the truth.
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yes there are some that are bill of sale only but there are also titled ones. one i know of for shure was in 2010 a superbird sold with a title and it was originally a auro dynamic test car. this one they even had the original test footage to show with it. they didnt use a windtunnel they used the windstream behind a 727 jet
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Re: Legit 1984 Iroc-Z

Barrett-Jackson on concept cars.

"This vehicle will be conveyed to Buyer with NO MANUFACTURER STATEMENT OF ORIGIN (MSO) or title and the vehicle does not have a complete VIN. SOLD ON BILL OF SALE ONLY."
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correct there is some cars that are test cars that have a title, i know this because my dad has a 65 vette that is an original fuel injected test car and clearly has a vin.
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the cars that are "test" vehicles are sold with a scrap title. i dont think that they can be registered.
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