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Old 09-12-2012 | 08:56 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

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Yeah don't you hate it when your shaft is too long? *sigh*
That's what she said!!!! Hahaha
Old 09-12-2012 | 08:57 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

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Yeah don't you hate it when your shaft is too long? *sigh*
I mean, I've never had a problem in the past with it....apparently my current woman (TA) didn't like it though.
Old 09-12-2012 | 09:04 AM
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and then the worst part s when you have to get it shortened
Old 09-16-2012 | 09:51 PM
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and then the worst part s when you have to get it shortened
Old 09-16-2012 | 10:57 PM
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Well, basically buttoned up the car and finished fabbing the exhaust.....

AND I DROVE IT TODAY!!!

And I don't mean just down the street...I put about 30-40 miles on it cruising first to a gas station just over the MA border, and then up to a park in Westfield, MA and then back home. Car drove absolutely flawlessly. 50 psi oil press while cruising, temps didn't budge over 190 degrees, and I had 13.5 volts even with the headlights, fog lights, and heat on full blast on my way home from the park. I am SO happy that after 4 years of this project, it's first real drive went perfect. Car is such a head turner, and at the park I had about 10 cars drive about 1 mph past where I was parked, and everyone's heads were just turning as they went by lol. Makes me feel pretty good.

Heres a few park shots...

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Still have to finish up some of the interior and do a few odds and ends, but mechanically, the car is sound. Transmission shifted awesome, and I have reverse!! I'll try to get some pics up soon once I get the interior completely back together.

And to all the followers and everyone that has been a part of this thread, thanks for the support and encouragement. You guys all kept me motivated, even at times when I felt like giving up. TGO is one of the best forums I have ever been a member on, and the community is awesome.

This day was a landmark for project PITA, and while the hard part is done, I will always be tinkering with the car and trying to make things better. It's with me for the long haul at this point!
Old 09-16-2012 | 11:03 PM
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Congrats! I've been watching from the beginning and it looks amazing. It's some serious motivation for us all to do our car to the level you took yours.

TGO CAR OF THE MONTH!
Old 09-17-2012 | 01:01 AM
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May i has a napkin......i made a mess =/

JUST KIDDING. car looks great bud. i know i came into this thread late at the beginning but wathcing this thing transform into what it is shows me theres still hope for the human race to built a nice thirdgen that isnt hacked together. and also that u my friend have some dedication, ive been jealous throughout this whole build, and seeing this thing transform from white stockish car to this LS powered Beaut of a car just makes my day.
Old 09-17-2012 | 03:57 AM
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dude?! I've followed this thing from day freaking one and I have to say this is the badest car I've ever seen. Great job man and drive the sh*t out of it
Old 09-17-2012 | 05:26 AM
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Congratulations on building a great-looking car! Plus a big THANK YOU for taking the time to share your project in such detail and with great pics. That in itself takes a lot of time and dedication. You've given many of us good ideas and tips, as well as inspiration.

Hope you keep this thread going, from time to time.

Enjoy your car, man!
Old 09-17-2012 | 06:21 AM
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Nice - that's what makes it all worth while! It's motivation for those of us who are still trying to finish our projects. You did a great job. Now this is the pay off.
Old 09-17-2012 | 08:14 AM
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Sweet man. Been watching the thread forever glad to get another one back on the road!
Old 09-17-2012 | 08:27 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Originally Posted by Guitarpik14

TGO CAR OF THE MONTH!

Month? At least a year!!!



*throws confetti*

*pops open champagne*

*applause*
Old 09-17-2012 | 08:53 AM
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Great job! Car looks awesome!! And I agree TGO car of the year!!
Old 09-17-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Car looks absolutely fantastic! Can't believe it's basically done! Everything about it looks so perfect. The stance. The wheels. The color. The interior. Words can't even describe...
Old 09-17-2012 | 10:36 AM
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What can I say that hasn't already been said? Yours is hands-down the best DIY resto that I have ever followed. WOW. You have set the bar pretty high for the rest of us... but maybe this will motivate me to do right by my GTA.

Congrats, man!
Old 09-17-2012 | 11:46 AM
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This man and his car deserves to be in a mag!
Old 09-17-2012 | 03:06 PM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Originally Posted by musclecar70sfan
Month? At least a year!!!



*throws confetti*

*pops open champagne*

*applause*

besides being a great scene, at 51 seconds reminds me of this
Old 09-17-2012 | 03:32 PM
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Congrats man, I've been following your build for about two years now. Enjoy it, and perhaps take it on Power Tour or Drag Week next year.
Old 09-17-2012 | 04:25 PM
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Have nothing else to add, everyone said it all. .Beautiful car. And awsome build. This thread alone keeps me going in my own build.
Old 09-17-2012 | 11:47 PM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

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Have nothing else to add, everyone said it all. .Beautiful car. And awsome build. This thread alone keeps me going in my own build.
Well said. I had been neglecting my project, but after reading through this thread it really gave me the motivation I needed. Been in my garage every night now.
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HOLLY SCHNIKIES BATMAN!!!

Dude that car is amazing. Super glad for you man.
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That is seriously the nicest bird I have ever seen.
Old 09-18-2012 | 08:39 AM
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Saw this car at a local car show yesterday. That borla sounds SOOOO amazing. Not too loud, but has a nice deep tone! Rob, now that your done, when can I drop mine off so you can do the same to mine?
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Amazing build I've been following this for a while now and I have to say that this is just an amazing build!!! Now I have to go and start working on my GTA and get her on the road so I can enjoy my third gen!!!
Old 09-19-2012 | 02:43 PM
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Looks great! Must be nice after 4 years it runs flawlessly. Get that steering taken care of and it will be a blast.
Old 09-19-2012 | 09:36 PM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Originally Posted by whitedevilTA
Well, took another step backwards guys but it's for the better. I looked into the wiring a little and did a lot of resarch, and all the butt connectors I used just weren't sitting well with me. I just kept fearing that a few years down the road I would be chasing an electrical gremlin and the whole point of using a new harness was to prevent any chance of that. After looking at a bunch of online forums, this is what I decided to do...

Went out and bought a cheap but good heat gun, and these special connectors called solder sleeves. They have a band of solder in the middle and a glue ring on each end. You put it on the wire where you want to make a connection and put the heat gun on it. This melts the solder while also shrink wrapping and sealing the wire with glue making a water tight, soldered connection. I recommend these things to EVERYONE after using them! They are awesome, hands down, and from someone who hates soldering, these things are stupid easy to use...even more so than a butt connector! Plus they use these in the air force and military so they are proven to hold up.

Anyways, heres the heat gun and solder sleeves.


Heres the section of headlight wires all done.


And the horn wire.


So far I have the entire headlight harness done, and have a few more engine bay connections to replace. My biggest concern is getting all the external connections replaced with these since they will be the most prone to moisture and wire failure. Then I'll work on the interior ones, but mostly concentrate on the floor wires for the most part. That way I will eliminate 75% of the butt connectors, and if for any reason something fails, it'll be contained to behind the dash area only. As much of a pain as it is, I'm glad I found out about these and decided to fix it now while it's still easy!
where in gods brown hot earth did you buy these connectors ?. i cant find them anywhere and the funny thing is that the company was founded here in California .
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http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7...lder%2bsleeves
Old 09-19-2012 | 09:50 PM
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Thanks everyone! Got to say, it was one heck of a project, but just driving it now and hearing that beautiful sounding turbo V8 makes it all worth it. Been doing a few small things here and there. Painted the air dam since it was bare metal and had some surface rust starting. Also got my center console in and detailed the interior. Still need door panels but I ended up buying some smaller 60 lbs injectors since my tuner said the 80's I have are way too big for the motor. I'll finish the cosmetic stuff like the interior once the car is running perfect. Tough to find time to work on it in between all this driving though

Originally Posted by camaro1185
Saw this car at a local car show yesterday. That borla sounds SOOOO amazing. Not too loud, but has a nice deep tone! Rob, now that your done, when can I drop mine off so you can do the same to mine?
Thanks Matt! I think part of the reason it's so deep sounding is because of the piping being 3.5" too. And hey, if you pick up an LS motor, I'm down for some install help!
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Originally Posted by Birdstheword
where in gods brown hot earth did you buy these connectors ?. i cant find them anywhere and the funny thing is that the company was founded here in California .

Also available from Amazon. Gotta love Amazon Prime!

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is ray chem wholesale only . i thought home depot or lowes would carry them think grainger carries them ?


on another not CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , KUDOS MAN KUDOS ON ALL OF YOUR WORK IDGAF ABOUT USING ALL CAPS , CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOP WOOP WOOOP WOOP WOOP *spins on floor *

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Old 09-20-2012 | 06:13 AM
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I got mine from home depot. They worked very well when I did my stereo install.
Old 09-20-2012 | 08:54 AM
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Great looking ride. Nicely done!
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

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I got mine from home depot. They worked very well when I did my stereo install.
PN ? please . i went there yesterday and they did not have them in the electrical isle or the soldering section near the power tools .

never mind , found it

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/TE-...488?Pid=search

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Old 09-20-2012 | 02:50 PM
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KILLER!!
Old 09-21-2012 | 08:18 AM
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Wow the car looks great man. To follow this thing from the start and see what you started with and what the finished product is I have to say that this is one of the nicest 3rd gen T/A's I have ever seen. And its got power to boot Great work
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Your about to go over 100k views on this thread.
Old 09-21-2012 | 08:15 PM
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Great car it's just awesome. So what kind RWHP and RWTQ does it make?
How many MPG does get about 10 I'm guessing?
Good Job, love it.
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Your about to go over 100k views on this thread.
LOL well for a 4 year long build, I guess thats about right.

Originally Posted by ringo234
Great car it's just awesome. So what kind RWHP and RWTQ does it make?
How many MPG does get about 10 I'm guessing?
Good Job, love it.
All said and done I'm hoping for 600 RWHP....not sure on the torque, but probably somewhere in the low 500's at the wheels. Will be getting it tuned and dyno'd soon so I will let you know for sure. As far as mpg, once it's tuned right, I should get about 16-17 around town if I don't step on it. It's basically a stock 5.3 in a light trans am so out of boost it'll get what a stock motor does for the most part.
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Man that sure is sharp, looks better than new even though it pretty much is great to see your almost completely done. Now here's your next problem,what are you going to do with all your free time now!!
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Beautiful car! Kudo's on a "Job well done"!
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Man that sure is sharp, looks better than new even though it pretty much is great to see your almost completely done. Now here's your next problem,what are you going to do with all your free time now!!
Drive it, save money, and relax, LOL! And thanks for the good words.

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Beautiful car! Kudo's on a "Job well done"!
Thanks!
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when do i get to go for a ride?
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Meh... I guess it's "ok"

Old 09-24-2012 | 10:55 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Dude , I gotta tell you that you have the most, best , bada$$, b17chin thirdgen I have ever seen congrats. Now when can you start on mine?
Old 09-27-2012 | 10:12 PM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

The car is done for the most part and I've been driving it, but that doesn't mean the work is over yet! Borrowed a set of race ramps from a buddy of mine for the front wheels and have the axle up on jack stands in preparation for the BMR subframe connectors I just ordered. In the mean time, I started scraping the old undercoat off the floorboards and will have them herculined this weekend. Gonna be nice to finally have the entire underside done!!

I also decided that I am most likely having the entire exhaust system ceramic coated in black, since I am so happy with how it came out and the ground clearance I have with it. Since I made it out of mild steel, eventually it would rust, but ceramic coating should make it last a LONG time. Anyways, heres pics of the undercoating progress...

Entire drivers side floorboard ready. Scraped the old crap off, cleaned it with jet fuel (yes I have real jet fuel), and now it looks brand new again. Just have to scuff it up with sandpaper and lay on the herculiner.
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Heres how the car is set up for the subframe connector install. The race ramps work AWESOME and are designed for lowered sports cars. I drove up on them perfectly even with 1 3/4 drop springs. My buddy who let me borrow them has a lowered 96 dodge viper and his car goes onto them perfect as well, so I figured I wouldn't have an issue. I measured exactly 10" off the ground at all 4 tires and the doors open and close perfect. Should be exactly as the car would sit on the ground. Can't wait to feel the difference with them on!
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Originally Posted by firebird_6645
Dude , I gotta tell you that you have the most, best , bada$$, b17chin thirdgen I have ever seen congrats. Now when can you start on mine?
Thats quite the compliment...thanks man!
Old 09-28-2012 | 06:52 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

are those race ramps higher than the ramps i had mine on? Id love to get a set myself.
Old 09-28-2012 | 09:04 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Originally Posted by camaro1185
are those race ramps higher than the ramps i had mine on? Id love to get a set myself.
They are 10" high. Don't remember how yours were, but these seem higher to me. They work awesome!
Old 09-28-2012 | 09:35 AM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

How did you get the undercoating off? Did you soak it in the fuel first and then scrape it? I am curious because I still need to do the same thing on my car. If I am not mistaken, jet fuel is very close to kerosene. So something on that order should accomplish the same thing.
Old 09-28-2012 | 06:46 PM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
How did you get the undercoating off? Did you soak it in the fuel first and then scrape it? I am curious because I still need to do the same thing on my car. If I am not mistaken, jet fuel is very close to kerosene. So something on that order should accomplish the same thing.
Yes, jet fuel is very similar to kerosene, so that should work good. Basically, I got a paintbrush and used it to rub the jet fuel all over the undercoat and let it soak for about 15 minutes. Then I used a 1.5" wide paint scraper to scrape off the majority of the undercoat. Once most of it is off, you can use a rag dipped in kerosene to wipe away the rest until the floor pan is back to clean paint. Don't use a wire wheel...found out they don't work for crap lol...they basically spread it around more than take it off.
Old 09-28-2012 | 08:19 PM
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Re: **Project PITA** 86 TA frame up restoration

OK thanks - I am going to give that a shot.


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