GTA Sammy

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That got your attention didn't it??? Truth be told I don't know where else to post this but........

Has anyone checked out the Third Gens on the 2009 Carlist????

Somebody here owns these cars!!!!

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli..._LotNumber=106

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli..._LotNumber=107

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli..._LotNumber=952

There was a Camaro way back in the begining somewhere..... but honestly it hurt my eyes.... http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli..._LotNumber=111

Any guesses on what they'll sell for?

HCR13

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Those are very nice cars... I would definitely take the LT5 Camaro...colors are interesting but the LT5 is one of the strongest engines ever produced... I'd be eating up LS1 and LS6s left and right!

webeeZ28

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Thanks for the post. Do you know how much the final bids got up to?

JT

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I moved this to the History/Restoration forum since that's where previous Barrett Jackson cars have been discussed.

The vehicles listed have not, yet, been sold.

RPM WOT L 98

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Those are the ones GM is selling from the heritage center, see the other post.

L695speed

I call dibs on twin turbo TA. No Since I am a college student please will someone else grab that! I will hunt it down later in life. Anyway I hear that GM might buy back a bunch of the cars later when and if they ever get back into the black. From past experience cars in the early stages never sell for much money. I would say no higher than 30,000 for each with maybe the Twin Turbo TA taking the most with the kammback a close second. OFC there will be some guy who will pay a sh*tload for yet another KR replica.

Dennis-Z28

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Wow, they are selling the LT5 Camaro!! That would be an awesome car to have. I hate the colors but it is worth it just for the motor and its historical value; you could learn to accept the color.

GTA Sammy

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You'd never get used to that color scheme!!!!
I do understand the LT5 significance, but that car should head straight to the body shop!!!!

Isn't the KITT replica owned by someone here on TGO???

I would give my left tes**cle for the twin turbo TA!!!!

avro206

I'd paint the Camaro. Have the engine pulled and sent to Lingenfelter

online170

So the T-TTA isnt a custom car? Was it produced by GM?

I was watching BJ today, and the customs didnt go for as much as i though. 50's mercs, and other completely modified rods brought in around 30-50k.

L695speed

Nope it was no custom. It was a factory skunkworks project. A prototype for engineers and car guys to say "What if we did this?" It was built by GM and was never produced for regular production. The closest thing that came out for regular production to this car was the TTA of 89 and the Firehawk of 92. Yet this prototype creamed them both. I always liked this car....Chevy no doubt was pissed. (no offense to the Camaro guys. I like them too)

and to GTA Sammy...I raise you one and replace them with fakes so I still have them. LMAO. I am sure that if the keys were thrown to a bunch of us here at TGO it would be a war zone (while I slip off quietly with the car)

online170

in that case, i could only guess what they would go for. They arent as old as some of the other classics around, but a 1 of a kind factory made car would probably go for alot. Who ever bought it, probably wouldnt drive it, and it probably isnt very driveable now if it just came out of the GM museum.

Kevin84Z28

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What is a LT5 Camaro?

L695speed

Factory didn't build it a bunch of real car guys at GM did. I would say it would need a lil TLC but they drove the hell out of it. Motor Trend tested it alongside other prototypes. This car was the performance King of the Hill of that test.

I was given the link on another thread for the article. Enjoy.

http://www.gtasourcepage.com/91TTTATest.html

HCR13

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From Wikipedia:

"Immediately prior to the release of the second generation small block, General Motors released a largely unrelated engine which also used the LT name. The LT5 was engineered by a team headed by Terry D. Stinson.[citation needed] It was an all-aluminum 5.7 L (349 cu in) small-block V8, but was entirely different from any of the other Chevrolet 350 engines. The bore and stroke were both different at 3.9 by 3.66 in (99 by 93 mm) instead of the usual 4 by 3.48 in (102 by 88 mm) and it featured Lotus-designed 32-valve DOHC heads. It was hand built by specialty engine builder, Mercury Marine. This engine produced 375 horsepower (280 kW) and 370 lb·ft (502 N·m) for the 1990-1992 Corvette ZR-1 and jumped to 405 horsepower (302 kW) and 385 lb·ft (522 N·m) for 1993 to its final year in 1995, thanks to cam timing changes and improvements to the engine porting. 1993 also added 4-bolt main bearing caps and an exhaust gas recirculation system. The engine was not used in any other vehicle."

Dmans85

That "unique" paint schemed LT5 was in an article in Camaro Performers within the last 6mo. Or was it GM Performance?

HCR13

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I remember seeing something about it in GM Hipo not too long ago...

online170

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...aro/index.html

Im reading it now. Its yet another car i didnt know existed!

Brennan

what are those wheels on the twin turbo trans am? i was watching barrett jackson the other day seen a "brand new" 84 z28 l69 with 6-ish miles on it never been tittled it was beautiful

GTA Sammy

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Both articles were good reads...... It doesn't take long on this board to get great information!!!!

Makes me wonder what they'll go for.....

It's funny that in 1990 the Bright Purple and Green were cool, does anybody remember Dirtbike gear from that era????? Bright Fluorescent Colors were everywhere!!!

It's funnny to look back on it now..... But don't show me any more pictures

Sickness91Z28

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We still have the "Barrett Jackson" 78 mile 1LE at the dealership I work at.....that thing will never sell.....

GTA Sammy

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Auction starts this Tuesday January 13/2009.
Anyone else wanna start guessing @ what these cars will bring....

I think it'll go something like this...

1st place Goes to the LT5 Camaro ($50,000+) Due to the All Aluminum -Rare Powerplant.....
2nd place Kamback just slightly ahead of the TT because it's soooo one off(40,000+)
3rd place the TT Trans Am because you could build one yourself ($40,000+)
4th place KiTT Replica because I don't think that there is a market for it($10,000- $15,000 TOPS)

I wonder if Speed Channel will cover the whole day?

HCR13

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I'll be honest, I think you're too optimistic. I don't know if they'll go for that high, simply because of the crumy economy and the fact they are thirdgens....

Kevin84Z28

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I bet the TT Trans Am is the only one that meets the reserve. Maybe the Camaro ???

JT

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Unless this auction is different, B-J does not have any reserves.

GTA Sammy

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I think that Third gens are "right around the corner" as far as the collectables go. The first and second gens are out of reach for most of us.....

The only reason that I think they will go that high is that they are "Factory Made Special Vehicles" if you wanna call them that.

You couldn't make that Kamback if you wanted too!!!!!
The other 3 are a possible with enough ingenuity and $$$$$

B/J has no reserve...

t_towner

Hate to chime in but I'm dying to own the 1991 Twin Turbo Trans Am. I tried
everything to pull out the stops to visit but couldn't make the auction due
to time and finances.

I'll never forgive myself if someone steals that car..... It'd sure look purdy next to the Hawks and the FireAm.

The LT5 Camaro is kool, but that paint job.... IMO it's the perfect 1980's car as it sums up the decade perfectly. It should come with a pair of parachute pants and a lime green jacket.

Ward

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That camaro is an old concept car, it's got the same LT5 as the ZR1 corvettes came with, and I'm pretty sure it's got independent rear suspension as well.

GTA Sammy

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Ward, read reply # 18. All the specifics are in there.....

rideon1200

I dont think the Third Gens will ever be a collector car. Too many were made and they had a bad rep, and sitting in every trailer park dosent help either. They have no collector value and alot will have to hit the junk yards before they are appreciated. I think in between 81 and 2001 there will always be a low demand. I dont think any of them will go much over 20 grand and thats generous.

t_towner

Are you kidding me? Seriously....

Majority won't make it past that mark for 20 more years. Desirable ones are already well past 20k. There was a third gen that almost sold for 6 figures last year.....

GTA Sammy

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Around here, a nice third gen can easily go for over $10 grand. Many have low milage due to our winters...... those that were winter driven have never survived.
I won't say that a 82 firebird will sell for $10,ooo bucks but a nice GTA will go for that and then some.
I must say that the "Top Shelf" 87-92 Third Gens get more than their fare share of oogles at the "Sunday" cruise nites.... probably cause you don't see many of them.

My town has a population of around 600,000-700,000 people, and I bet there are 6 GTA's in town. With that being said we have a large # of CAR enthusiasts who cruise the strip every weekend.

Only time will tell what these cars bring.
ps- t towner.... I wish I had your collection!!!!!

LFN AT U

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[QUOTE=t_towner;4004285The LT5 Camaro is kool, but that paint job.... IMO it's the perfect 1980's car as it sums up the decade perfectly. It should come with a pair of parachute pants and a lime green jacket. [/QUOTE]

That's why I'd take the LT5 car over the others. It screams 80s!!! I remember when that car was first released. (I hated it!!!) Of course, if you took that car out now people would laugh at you but that was totally the style back then. I was never a fan of crazy paints jobs and other 80's styles but I'd take it and park it as a monument to the 80's!!! However, I'm not sure if I could handle that interior for long.

I definitely remember the twin turbo car as well but was never much of a fan of that one. The engine compartment is definitely sweet but the 91-92 Firebirds are the only thirdgens that I absolutely hate so I've never been that impressed with that one.

I've never understood the Kamback. Trying to make a Trans Am into a station wagon just never seemed like a very good idea.

Pyroviking

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Can somebody post what the cars went for, or what the high bids were? I can't seem to find it online.

Also, what was the thirdgen that almost went for 6 figures?

GTA Sammy

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Bidding starts Tuesday Jan 13th

Pyroviking

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Alright then, can somebody fast-forward through time, then come back to today and post the results?

avro206

some one record it on a HD and post up on youtube!

I want to see that LT5 Camaro!

scottmoyer

The auction starts Tuesday, so no pricing has been done yet.

Also, can the naysayers that believe the 3rd gens will never be worth anything, keep that belief to yourself? You're only starting the same argument again and again. It's already been proven that the value of some 3rd gen cars have increased to levels above where other generations have increased at the same age. A 20 year old 3rd gen can be worth more percentage wise than a 20 year old 2nd gen was at 20 years.

JT

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SpeedTV airs the B-J auction, but not the entire auction. B-J sets the auction layout and works with SpeedTV so they cover the cars they think is valuable and interesting. Those cars are usually shown at the end of the week during prime time, if I recall.

Basically, there is a chance those cars listed may not appear on SpeedTV.

GTA Sammy

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For the last couple of years SpeedChannel has broadcasted about 8-10 hours of Auction Daily IIRC......
So hopefully we get to watch the bidding on these specific cars....... We'll know by the end of the first day what they all went for.....so keep your fingers crossed and we'll be able to see it go down!

I like to watch the bidding, and hear what the speed crew has to say about all the particular cars. I'm sure that they won't be as well versed as they are for some of the other "Muscle Cars" but fun just the same.

Oh ya and for those that don't get to watch real time the website posts the prices of the cars within seconds of crossing the Block. So if you refresh the page often you'll know exactly what each went for.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...h/default.aspx

I remember watching last year right till midnight and they went off air right before a low milage original 87? Black GTA crossed the block..... hope that doesn't happen this year!!!

JT

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Yes, Speed has been broadcasting more hours of the B-J auctions than they previously did, but they still don't cover the entire auction event. They cut in during the day when auctioning has already begun, and they often cut before auctioning ends. I, too, recall that 1987 black GTA getting missed from coverage. It was actually in 2007. But you're right, the final price for all vehicles is updated live on their website.

GTA Sammy

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Just looking back.......
That 87 Black GTA with 11,000 miles sold for $30,800!!!!

I don't think that a collector with any knowledge of these cars would let them go........ Should be interesting!

I'm sticking with my prediction of 45-50 grand

tom3

11 pm here Tuesday night and at #92 on the list. Doubt if the third gens will show on the tv. Be interesting to see those.

GTA Sammy

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10 pm central time..... Lot # 93......IIRC they usually go till midnite here..... I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!!!

Either way I'll be watching their online results!!!!

I can't believe all the GM heritage cars that they are unloading. Speedchannel says it has nothing to do with the Gov't bailout...... I say !!!!

GTA Sammy

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Can you F**KIN believe it!!!!!

Speed goes to Commercial just as the Kamback is about to hit the Block!!!!!!

We'll have to see what coverage we get on it and the TTTA is just after it

GTA Sammy

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The Twin Turbo Trans am sold for $43.000!!!!!
Good $$$$
I don't think that you can drive it on the street though...... non-insurable VIN

Don't know about the Kamback yet...... They haven't updated the website yet

Dennis-Z28

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Damn, they cut it off!

DarrensCamaro

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$28,600 for the Kamback

LFN AT U

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Kamback --- $28,600.

t_towner

Ok, who's the guy that bought the twin turbo car? I bid $42k on it.... and that was WAAAY past where I wanted to go, but had to have it for the collection. Just couldn't muster $44k. Can't wait for the LT5 to come up...
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My wife fell asleep on the couch.... I tried to ask her if it was "alright" to bid that high. She didn't answer..... so what the hey.

That would have been a bad nightmare to wake up from.