Gale Banks Cars?
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Gale Banks Cars?
Does anyone here own or know the whereabouts of the Gale Banks modified Trans Ams from 1982-1984? There were legends at Bonneville, but I have heard nothing about them in more than 20 years.
I remember Banks selecting the Trans Am because it was the most aerodynamic car of its time and required the least amount of body modifications.
Mike
I remember Banks selecting the Trans Am because it was the most aerodynamic car of its time and required the least amount of body modifications.
Mike
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Re: Gale Banks Cars?
Excellent question!
I'd love to know what happened to these cars. Here is a thread by Warbird.TA with some photos from the L.A. Autoshow.
http://warbirdta.proboards91.com/ind...play&thread=41
http://warbirdta.proboards91.com/ind...play&thread=40
I know Banks also did a few early 4th gen cars. (One was famous was flipped by a Car and Driver Editor )
I'd love to know what happened to these cars. Here is a thread by Warbird.TA with some photos from the L.A. Autoshow.
http://warbirdta.proboards91.com/ind...play&thread=41
http://warbirdta.proboards91.com/ind...play&thread=40
I know Banks also did a few early 4th gen cars. (One was famous was flipped by a Car and Driver Editor )
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not sure why but the links are also dead..
From what I can recall someone brought this up not too long ago, they contacted Banks and apparently there was not an "Official" place to have them converted. What I kind of remember is Banks would send out a complete kit and then the owner or a mechanic would install the kit on the car... Therefore there were no records kept to production figures as they did not do all of the cars in house...
I have been under the impression that Banks first did a TA in 1985, I was not aware that he did some earlier cars... I have been wrong before, pulling from memory here..
From what I can recall someone brought this up not too long ago, they contacted Banks and apparently there was not an "Official" place to have them converted. What I kind of remember is Banks would send out a complete kit and then the owner or a mechanic would install the kit on the car... Therefore there were no records kept to production figures as they did not do all of the cars in house...
I have been under the impression that Banks first did a TA in 1985, I was not aware that he did some earlier cars... I have been wrong before, pulling from memory here..
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: GMPP 350 V8
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
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Hmmm... Not sure why the links arent working.
They are in the message forum at transammotorsports.com if you want to go the long way.![Wink](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
The cars shown are the Banks Bonneville record 1986 car, and the 1987 car.
I have seen ads for the 1984 speed record car (all red) on ebay.
They are in the message forum at transammotorsports.com if you want to go the long way.
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The cars shown are the Banks Bonneville record 1986 car, and the 1987 car.
I have seen ads for the 1984 speed record car (all red) on ebay.
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Car: 87 GTA
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Since Banks Engineering is still around, heavy into diesels now....Perhaps you could contact them and ask, for history interest, of what happened to their cars.
My bet is, he has them lined up in a warehouse somewhere.
My bet is, he has them lined up in a warehouse somewhere.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
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I just checked the Banks website and found this! ![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
http://www.bankspower.com/magazines/...-revival-part-
All of this is right off of the Banks website.![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
http://www.bankspower.com/magazines/...-revival-part-
All of this is right off of the Banks website.
![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
Once the blow-through twin-turbo system was fully engineered and tested, in a bold move, Banks started American Tubocar, Inc., a company set up to sell brand-new twin-turbo third-generation Camaros and Firebirds to the public. New Camaros and Firebirds were delivered in one door, and Banks and crew promptly pulled out their 305s and drivelines and installed 500-, 600- or 700hp twin-turbo 350ci (5.7-liter) Chevrolets and a barrage of other goodies. Out the other door came Banks’ "GT Camaros and Firebirds," and each car's horsepower was limited only by the thickness of the customer's wallet—the choice of engine-building materials and the boost settings on the wastegate.
The cars were extremely complete when they left the Banks "factory." Each engine was broken in on the dynamometer and fully tested. The 500hp version was essentially an automotive version of Banks' four-bolt-main marine twin-turbo small-block Chevrolet engine, with iron 1.94-/1.5-inch heads, forged marine pistons and an "automotive-style'' twin-turbo system, running about 8 lbs of boost.
The cars were extremely complete when they left the Banks "factory." Each engine was broken in on the dynamometer and fully tested. The 500hp version was essentially an automotive version of Banks' four-bolt-main marine twin-turbo small-block Chevrolet engine, with iron 1.94-/1.5-inch heads, forged marine pistons and an "automotive-style'' twin-turbo system, running about 8 lbs of boost.
The company sold more than 20 cars and more than 70 complete engines from 1982 to 1988, but more important, it helped Banks and his engineers fully sort out his twin-turbo kits that eventually went into hundreds of vehicles around the world. Of course, the magazines at the time got wind of the program, and in 1984 a Banks GT Firebird was tested by Car & Driver magazine at over 200 mph. The magazine, naturally, put it on its June cover, with a headline reading: "200 MPH TRANS AM." This car was also the first car tested to produce 1 g. on the skidpad. Realize that an honest 200 mph was a huge accomplishment in 1984, because even the "exotics" were "only" able to achieve 160 to 165 mph in real-world testing. Besides the GT Camaros and Firebirds, a few twin-turbo Corvettes were sold, and in 1985 a crazy twin-turbo 427 Firebird was built for a South African customer that made 1,350 hp. This was a street car that could go 240 mph under the right conditions.
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I just checked the Banks website and found this! ![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
http://www.bankspower.com/magazines/...-revival-part-
All of this is right off of the Banks website.![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
...
![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
http://www.bankspower.com/magazines/...-revival-part-
All of this is right off of the Banks website.
![Cool](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
...
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Re: Gale Banks Cars?
From the Mecum High Performance Auction web site.
Car & Driver Gale Banks Trans Am
The car was bid to $27,000 and did not sell at that time.
Some of the MSE's were built with the Gale Banks Twin Turbo.
Car & Driver Gale Banks Trans Am
The car was bid to $27,000 and did not sell at that time.
Some of the MSE's were built with the Gale Banks Twin Turbo.
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Wow, great feedback.
The car from the Mecum auction is the one I remember. Years ago, when my friends would carry on about Ferrari Boxers and Porsche 930s, I would always bring up the Banks Trans Am.
The car from the Mecum auction is the one I remember. Years ago, when my friends would carry on about Ferrari Boxers and Porsche 930s, I would always bring up the Banks Trans Am.
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The NHRA museum in Pomona California had it last time I was there, (2008).
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The Car & Driver (11/83 & 6/84) articles are reprinted in "High Performance Firebirds: 1982-1988", which is out of print but not impossible to find. "600hp you can live with" translated to 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, and 1/4 mile times around 13.3 at 122mph. Not all that impressive for 600hp and $50,000 (in 1983 dollars).
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