CaliCamaroRS

Ok, did all 91-92 camaro's get the "NEW" wheels? I only ask because i've seen a few running around that have the new GFX but still have the older 5 spoke wheels...WTF?? (all RS's BTW)

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-Dan
-1990 3.1L RS
-Mods? no
-Slow? yes

Drew

iTrader: (58)

The standard wheel on the RS was the old 15x7 aluminum Z28 wheel... the 16x8 Z28 wheel was an option.

blackstripes

my 92 RS has 16" wheels but yet they are not the z28 wheels. they look similar to the old 5 spoke irocs. i believe all 91-92 had 16" wheels it was just whether or not they were upgraded to the premium z28 wheel.
-pat

buddman91rs

you had the option of 235/55-15 which is the 15X7 rim which should have the indentions in the spoke painted the body color these are the ones similar to the OLD z28's I have the 16X8 optional rim which came with 235/55-16 gatorbacks from goodyear but have since been replaced with 245/50 -16's bridgestone potenza re910's those were tha only 2 options wheel wise

topduarte

iTrader: (8)

I believe if you ordered the 305 tbi in the 91 and 92 rs you got the upgraded 16 x 8 z28 wheels with the $369 engine upgrade price.

I believe there was no charge for this!!

Let me know if I am wrong!!!

Manny

92 z28, 350, 46k miles, pw, pl, power mirrors, power drivers sear, rear defroster, limited slip performance axle, oil cooler, 4 wheel discs, bright red leather interior and the Heritage package!!!

buddman91rs

no it was still an option i have seen lots of rs's with the older wheels, ill have to check with the invoice to see if it was free or not i do believe you had to pay for them though

buddman91rs

ok just checked the invoice and cant find anything useful, will have to find window sticker and look at it....

DartByU

I ordered my 92 RS with the 5.0 TBI, and the window sticker says NO CHARGE for the 16" Aluminum wheels w/locks. And my car came with 235/55/R16 Goodyear GA tires, not the Gatorbacks that I think Z/28's came with.

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92 Camaro RS 5.0 5-Speed(Quasar Blue)
14" Open Air Cleaner
3.08 Posi-trac
Edelbrock TBI Intake
Crane cam
Ported & polished stock heads 3 angle valve job
HyperTech Chip
SLP Headers (Ceramic Coated)
UltraFlo cat-back exhaust

74 Dodge Dart Sport 360 (11.2 1/4 mile)

2000 Dodge 1500 Ram Sport

[This message has been edited by DartByU (edited June 27, 2001).]

Jason E

A 235/55/15 was never available on any year Camaro. The 15x7s used the regular 215/65/15.

That is interesting to note that the 305s all had the 16x8s though...

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Jason E

'89 Camaro RS
Medium Grey Metallic
2.8, A4, T-tops, 91k miles, a few bolt ons
Alpine 60x4 and Bostons

'97 Z28
30th Anniversary package (white with orange stripes)
LT1, M6, t-tops, 42k miles
Eclipse CD and 10" Aluminum sub in JL Audio Stealth box, Boston RM speakers, Xtant 403a amp

Speed Kills...Wanna live forever? Drive a Ford.
Long Live #3...

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

all z's came with them, rs was an option unless you went with the heritage in 92 which then it was added in the package!

Drew

iTrader: (58)

Actually the 16" wheel wasn't standard with the 305... Case in point NVMYRS's RS was a 305 tbi, and has the 15x7 wheels. We thought it was a little bizarre but the RPO's verified the 15's were stock.

topduarte

iTrader: (8)

Drew,

Was credit given to NVMYRS camaro for the 15" rims since they were given as part of the 5.0 tbi package?

I know they gave credit for radio deletes, "IROC" emblem deletes, etc but what about the "rim" downgrades?

I have seen one or two 91 and 92 5.0 tbi rs's with the 15" rim and thought it was odd.

When I see a 91 or 92 rs camaro with the 15" rim, I always thought it had the v6 and the 16" rim had the 305 tbi but I guess that is not the case.

I assume that if you had the v6, you could upgrade to the 16" rim for $520 (RPO N96) but what if you had the 305 tbi but wanted the 15" rims, did Chevrolet give you some credit?

Just something for everybody to ponder.

Manny

92 z28, 350 and 46k miles

Drew

iTrader: (58)

its impossible to see if a credit was given without a window sticker. But I can see where a buyer would delete the 16's... just check prices of tires...

b92z28

my 92 z came with the 16 inch rim but it came with 245/50/16 z rated tires. says so in the door

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92 z28 170,000 miles 14.20 on goodyear eagles before exhaust only mods k&n and slp 13/4 headers and dual 2 1/2 exhaust
87 trans am 12.20 on motor too many mods to list

buddman91rs

i have seen v6's with the 16's and i have seen v8s with the older ones sooo id like to call bull**** on the 16x8s with the LO3

9177

91-92 came with 15x7's with 215/65r15 stock rpo code QPH upgrade was a 16x8 with 235/55r16 rpo code QMT the Irocs came with the same rim only they had 245/55ZR16 rpo codes QLC. don't know what made the upgrade though.

David M

The key to getting the 16 inch wheels on an RS was to order the optional F41 suspension for $219.00. BUT it is listed on the window sticker AND the Camaro white book as: Tires P235/55R16 BW. Which is optional on an RS with a TBI 305. The F41/16in. wheels were not available on the 6 cyl RS. I agree this is confusing.

Kevin Johnson

Replying to an old thread here (see new question at end!)...

I just got my 91 RS and the original window sticker came with it.

It was a standard vehicle price of $12, 180

Add:

RS Preferred equipment group #2 at $1,847

T-tops w/locks $866
5.0 LO3 $350
Custom cloth bucket seats $327
Rear window louvers $210
P235/55 R-16 S/B Radial touring B/W tires $170
Electric rear window defogger $160
16" aluminum wheels w/locks NO CHARGE

F41 suspension listed in the RPO.

The stock tire and wheel listed for the V6 is:

P215/65R-15 All season steel belted radial touring tires &
15"X7" "RS" aluminum wheels


My new question: What is the difference between the front and rear 16" RS wheels? They are marked "front" and "rear." The rear drum brake has a thin steel spacer.

Thanks!

Kevin

CamaroFreak406

The Differance in the Front and Rear Rims is the offset. This means the distance from the back of the rim to the point where the rim bolts on. You can see this for yourself by putting a front and rear tire on the ground and using a tape measure to measure the distance from the ground to the hole inside the 5 lug pattern. There should be a differance in length.
I know that all 16" rims come with this offset but I'm not sure about 15" rims. But I don't think they do??
Hope this Helps, Garrett

Kevin Johnson

Yes, that info on the offset does help! Thanks!

Kevin

1992 B4C 1LE

When I bought my first camaro, it was in late 1991. The 1992s were just arriving and they wanted to get rid of the 1991s. I ended up with a 1991 5.0 TBI RS with the 15x7 wheels. All the 1992 5.0 TBI RSs had the new 16x8 wheels standard, or at least upgraded with NO CHARGE. I remember saying... "Hell, if it's no charge, why don't you upgrade my wheels?" I have since sold that car, but remember that I never had to deal with "front" and "rear" wheel differences.

later,
John

Kevin Johnson

The 15" tires are a lot cheaper too. My wife and I are students and the car needed a set of four new tires. Even an inexpensive set through Tirerack with local mounting & balancing that came to about $430. Ouch.


(Our other commuting car is a Geo Metro. A set of four new tires, mounted, balanced, and with road hazard protection can be had at Wal-mart for about $100 -- you tend to get spoiled with prices like that.)

Bandit400

I used to think that the 305 cars came with the 16 inch rims and that was an easy way to spot a V8 car on the road. But then I came across a couple RSs with 305 and 15X7 so that blew that theory. Yes, as stated above I believe the key to getting the 16X8 Z28 wheels on an RS was the F41 suspension option w/305 TBI. I don't think any 6 cyl cars ever came from the factory with the 16 in rims. Gosh I LOVE those 91,92 Z28 wheels!!

Kevin Johnson

I looked through some more of the literature given to me by the previous owners and they actually saved the 1991 Chevrolet Camaro catalog/brochure (23 pages).

In the catalog, a picture is given of the "16" cast-aluminum wheels [which are] optional on Camaro RS and standard on Z28."

Under the heading "Every Camaro RS features:" is the so-called "sport suspension" [F41? or...? I notice the RPO codes list a variety of suspensions but I am not sure if they all or in part applied to the 1991 model year.]. However, this "sport-suspension" is mentioned in the same list as "15" X 7" cast-aluminum wheels" and [as a picture caption] "a 140-HP 3.1 liter V6 with Multi-port Fuel Injection [that] is standard on [the] Camaro RS Coupe."

Conclusions?

Well, one way to help confirm/deny that the LO3 engine activated the F41 suspension is to: a) find an example of 1991 RS *without* F41 and then b) to see if a RS convertible can be found that has a LO3 (the LO3 was standard on the convertible) with 15" cast-aluminum wheels *but with F41*.

A) would deny the conclusion that all RS Camaros came with the F41 stock and b) would tend to confirm your theory that the LO3 activated the F41. However, it doesn't look like the F41 was available as an option by itself independent of the engine or wheels (at least from this catalog anyway), rather it was a dependant variable.

Kevin

Kevin Johnson

Oh, in re-reading the thread, David mentions that the F41 was available for $219 but that this was listed differently on the window sticker and white book (possibly the catalog/brochure I have?). So now the question is, what was the "sport-suspension" that came standard on the RS?

Hmmm (thinking out loud here)... *maybe* the $219 charge was a way for the dealer to charge for something that was actually already standard? Kinda like a sly "ADP" (Added Dealer Profit). Gosh, I'm getting too cynical.