jumpinjoe

Hi I'm new here and was wondering if there is a difinitive list of 1989 IROC 1LE vin numbers out there? I've owned this camaro since 2003, it has 12,000 act miles, but was raced by Matt Williams at the Mid-Ohio racetrack. It has all the correct items for the 1LE package but some of the interior was replaced before i got it and now the codes are missing from the center console. It was represented to me as being an original 305TPI/5speed combo. It has the alum. driveshaft, 3.45 Posi rear, dual cats, Huge sway bars, no A/C. It was in great shape until some jerks stole it in late 2003. they beat the tar out of it and were taking out the 5 speed due to damage to the synchros. im in the process of re-building it finally, and was wondering if it is original, shoud i make it stock, or should i leave the roll cage in it and put all 92 body peices on it? (i have all original body, but damage to fenders and hood makes me not want to re-use them). If anyone out there can help me I would really appreciate it. all the vin decoders out there dont tell me for sure thats why i'm looking for a list of actual vins.

David M

I have never seen or heard of a list of VIN's for the '89 1LE cars as opposed to a list that does exist for the '90 1LE's. But that doesn't mean there is not one. Past experiences with collecting data and hearing stories about '89 1LE's this is what I have gathered. The first batch of '89 1LE Camaros were loaded on a train and derailed somewhere in the southwest (New Mexico?).
I don't think any of these cars survived. Batch #2 were built in the KL155000 range,I have two VIN's, and a third batch was built in the KL194000-KL198000 range. I have four VIN's from this range. Out of the 111 1LE's built I have heard only about 10 have been located and are in the hands of collectors.

okfoz

When they come up on e-bay and elsewhere I have been loggin their vins, this is all I have so far... I would like more, but I just started a few months back.

1988 Camaro 1LE VIN 1G1FP2187JL191432
1992 Camaro 1LE VIN 1G1FP2382ML166147
1992 Formula 1LE VIN 1G2FS23FXML227432
1989 Camaro 1LE? 1G1FP2189KL172463

Willie

iTrader: (1)

....The first batch of '89 1LE Camaros were loaded on a train and derailed somewhere in the southwest (New Mexico?).

I don't have any further info on this topic except I can fill in one small gap. The train derailed near Flagstaff, Arizona. A handful of junkyards in the Phoenix area won bids to all the cars. Part of the agreement between GM and these yards was that all the cars tops be cut off at the beltline (just above the top edge of the door) so they could not be resold. I drove 150 miles one way about six months after the derailment to check this out. It was like being in Camaro heaven. Most of these cars had between 4 and 10 miles total. New parts lay strewn all over the dirt. I drove to this yard several times in the following months to take home carloads of parts.

jumpinjoe

thanks for the replys i was wondering, if i put my vin up here could someone tell me if they think its right? i need to go home and get the vin in a little while

okfoz

The VIn would not specify a 1LE or not. the 1LE would be on the SPID sheet in your center console.

John

jumpinjoe

Right, but like i said, they replaced the center console before they sold it and its not the original center console. so did someone fake a 1LE, or is it a true one? it has everything the car is supposed to, thus i am confused.

David M

Can't hurt, post it anyway I'll see what I can do with it.

Mark_ZZ3

Take your VIN to a GM parts counter and ask them for a list of option codes. I know in Canada I can do this ... easy way to see if it is a 1LE or not.

Mark.

jumpinjoe

here in Minn, they tell me they only have records of cars going back to 1990 my dealership is sandwiched between a pontiac and a chevrolet dealer so trust me, i've asked. one of the mechs at pontiac actually suggested you guys to me. ill be posting the vin in a little while

okfoz

I wonder if Canadian dealers can get US VIN info... hmmm

John

jumpinjoe

Heres my VIN: 1G1FP21F2KL155776. Carfax shows an Ontario reg but no owner info. is that because it was in canada eh?

Mark_ZZ3

EGADS!!! Congratulations ... you have a R7U Players car!!!

Being a Canadian car, and with the sequence number falling in teh 155xxx-156xxx range, this tells me it there is a 98% chance this is a R7U car.

In 1989, there were 76 1LE's imported into Canada out of the 111 1LE's made that year. Out of the 76, 74 were R7U cars.

Now go look on the cowl of your car, just under the driver's wiper arm and see if there is a CASC plaque with a number engraved on it. As well, take a close look at the top of the plenum and see if you can make out a rectangle area where a sticker would have been. Also look at the throttle body bolts, runner to plenum bolts for yellow/white paint. These are all signs of a Player's car.

Holes in the driver's floorboard from the bolt in roll cage is a good sign too!


Excited now?

Mark.

jumpinjoe

Thanx for the info there mark! I'm still figuring out how to get whole pics up here in the size alotted. I was told by the Dealer we bought it from that there were only 52 manuals in 89 is that correct? and my car still has the roll cage in it.

VERY EXCITED


Joe

P.S. I just noticed kind of a funny little coincidence(?) in your reply. My VIN ends with1557(76) and you said there were (76) cars taken there Kinda funny huh?

Mark_ZZ3

Finding the original roll cage is very uncommon. Most race cars had the cages removed and then the car was sold.

Was the cage installed when you bought it? I am surprized a dealer would sell a car with a cage in it. I don't think they are considered street legal.

All Player's cars were standards. So 74 of the 111 1LE's were R7U cars and 5 speeds. His number of 52 is incorrect.

You can send the pictures to my email and I will resize them for you.

Mark.

Mark_ZZ3

Open your hood and look on the cowl area just below the driver's side wiper arm for a small aluminum plaque.

Here is a picture of an engine bay. Look in the upper right hand corner for the plaque.

plaque

Mark.

jumpinjoe

I am at work right now but i'll run home in a bit to look and then i'll get back to you. yes, the cage was already in the car when i got it. it has the vent handles and even had an added lap timer and the original fire extinguisher in it before it got stolen. If i can find some pics of it before it got stolen, i'll add them to the e-mail. it came with all the race equiptment still on the car. slicks, decals and the works.

jumpinjoe

I found the outline from where it was on the cowl, but they took it off when they stole it. must of thought you could identify it by it or something. i'm emailing you the pics now, i appreciate the help

jumpinjoe

heres the roll cage in the car

jumpinjoe

as well as the modified dash with the vent pulls.

jumpinjoe

as to the legality of the cage, I was stopped a couple of times before it got stolen and the cop did'nt say a word. one thought it was cool. the other one said it was unsafe to drive with the cage in the car! I almost fell over laughing Luckily i didn't and he let me go with a warning. I work on the biggest strip of dealers in Minn and i was, and will be again, the only sales guy running a dealer plate on a camaro race car The cops always thought the plate was stolen But im a signing officer at the company so i show up in the system.

David M

Sorry to revive an old post but I knew I had these pics of this car. This is 1G1FP21F2KL155776. These were taken at Black & Fuller collision in Austell, GA on March 19, 1992. I have no other info on this car or what it was doing there. I was there doing a parts delivery and noticed the car. I had my camera with me (as I always did) took some pics and jotted down the VIN.

Spd-Kilz

I was just about to post a similar question...but saw this thread and how someone mentioned (in 2005) that there was a list of the 1990 1LE cars. Anybody have a link to that?

A friend from work told me about a '90 Camaro out near he lives that's been sitting in the grass for a while and seems to think it's a 1LE. I haven't got a chance to go look at it myself, but I do have the VIN for it which I'd like to cross-reference if possible. If it's a true 1990 1LE I might try and scoop it up as a resto-project.

Thanks!

John in RI

iTrader: (167)

Might as well add this:





Not my car, was local to CT till a few years back, I think this car is in Europe,.... I got the factory interior after a swap to black interior parts.


P.S This car had the factory RPO sheet stuck to the inside of the rear drivers side 'glove-box' in the hatch - not the console like the 80's Thirdgens.

okfoz

If you have the VIN I will get you the RPOs for the 1990

john

t_towner

Mark, do you have anything on this one?

okfoz

Too bad someone installed T-tops...

John

t_towner

John, I was told it was a pace car for the series and that's why the t-tops were installed????

okfoz

1LE PERFORMANCE PACKAGE COMPONENTS PERF PKG(1LE) 76
11Q MOLDING COLOR,WHITE (11Q) 503
15P WHEEL COLOR,MEDIUM SLATE GRAY (15P) 502
19C TRIM COMBINATION,CLOTH,BLACK (19C) 456
19I INTERIOR TRIM COLOR (19I) 626
199 SEAT BELTS COLOR BLACK (19) (199) 626
40U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,WHITE (40U) 503
6DB Unknown 129
7DB Unknown 129
8NN Unknown 256
9NN Unknown 256
90A ACCENT STRIPE,TWO-TONE,SILVER/YELLOW (90A) 178
AM9 SEAT,REAR,FOLDING SPLIT BACK FLDG SPLIT BK R/SEAT(AM9) 1,768
AN4 RESTRAINT PROVISIONS,CHILD(CANADIAN) CHILD RST PROVISIONS(AN4)(CANADIAN) 2,446
AR9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9) 2,446
AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3) 1,723
A01 WINDOW,TINTED GLASS(ALL WINDOWS) TINTED GLS(A01) 2,446
A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31) 1,723
A90 LOCK,REAR COMPARTMENT LID,REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC RELEASE ELEC REL LID LK(A90) 2,446
B18 ORNAMENTATION,INTERIOR(DELUXE)(USED WITH TROFEO SPORT COUPE WL3) DELUXE INTR(B18) 1,768
B34 COVERING,FLOOR MATS,FRONT,CARPETED INSERT(COLOR COORDINATED) FRT CPT INS FLR MATS(B34) 2,446
B35 COVERING,FLOOR MATS,REAR,CARPETED INSERT(COLOR COORDINATED) RR CPT INS FLR MATS(B35) 2,446
B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING(USED WITH LT Z11,GT Z21,TEMPEST Z50) BODY SI MLDG(B84) 2,446
CD4 WIPER SYSTEM,WINDSHIELD,PULSE PULSE WPR(CD4) 2,239
C41 HEATER,OUTSIDE AIR,WITH FAN AND DEFROSTER HTR(C41) 1,092
C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49) 2,446
DC4 MIRROR,INSIDE,REARVIEW TILT,DUAL READING LAMP(USED WITH GRAND PRIX Z7K,LE Z7L,SE Z7M) I/S DUAL READING LP RR VIEW MIR(DC4) 2,239
DG7 MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH AND LH REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC(PAINTED)(USED WITH LE Z7L,SE Z7M) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DG7) 1,355
D34 MIRROR,INSIDE,SUNSHADE S/S MIR(D34) 1,256
D42 COVER,REAR COMPARTMENT SECURITY(SHADE) R/CMPT SECURITY SHADE(D42) 2,239
D7J Unknown 164
D80 EXTENSION,REAR END PANEL(SPOILER) R/END PNL MOUNTED RR SPLR(D80) 2,146
D88 STRIPE,SPORT SPORT STRPE(D88) 1,256
E5Z ADAPTER - SPEEDO - DELETE 2,446
E7Z SENSOR - VEH SPD - DELETE 2,446
E9Z KEY - SPEEDO - DELETE 2,446
FE2 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING(USED WITH CALIFORNIA SPECIAL WE9,PERFORMANCE PACKAGE Y56) RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2) 1,256
GM3 AXLE,REAR,3.45 RATIO 3.45R(GM3) 164
G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80) 1,241
G92 AXLE,REAR,PERFORMANCE RATIO(MERCHANDISING OPTION) PERFORMANCE R/AXL RATIO(G92) 192
IPC TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPC) 1,652
JG1 SHAFT,PROPELLER(ALUMINUM) AL PROP SHF(JG1) 299
J65 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65) 572
KC4 COOLING SYSTEM,ENGINE OIL(EXPORT-IRAQ) KC4(EXPORT IRAQ) 192
K05 HEATER,ENGINE BLOCK(CANADIAN) ENG BLK HTR(K05)(CANADIAN) 2,446
K68 GENERATOR,105 AMPERE 105 AMP(K68) 1,102
LB9 ENGINE,5.0L(5.0F),V8 EFI CAR ONLY 5.0F(LB9) 694
MK6 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 5-SPEED(BORG-WARNER) 5-SPD M/TRANS(MK6) 164
MM5 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 5-SPEED PROVISIONS(MERCHANDISING OPTION) 5-SPD M/TRANS PROVISIONS(MM5) 904
NA5 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FEDERAL EMIS(NA5) 2,446
NP5 STEERING WHEEL,SPORT,3-SPOKE,LEATHER WRAPPED(USED WITH SE Y92) LEATHER WRAPPED STRG WHL(NP5) 1,256
N33 STEERING COLUMN,TILT TYPE TILT STRG COL(N33) 2,239
N64 WHEEL AND TIRE,SPACE SAVER SPARE(ALUMINUM) STOWAWAY SPARE(ALUM)(N64) 795
N96 WHEEL,16X8,CONVEXED,FOUR RIBBED,HI-TECH TURBO,WITH CENTER CAPS AND CAP WHEEL NUTS(STAMPED PONTIAC)(ALUMINUM)(USED WITH TRANS AM WS4,PERFORMANCE PACKAGE WS6,AERO WW2) AL WHL(N96) 572
QDZ Unknown 113
R7F CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 31 1,589
R7K CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 36 2,438
R7N CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 39 2,239
R7U CANADIAN PLAYER'S CAR (1989, 1991, 1992 ONLY) 74
TR9 LAMP GROUP,COURTESY LP GRP(TR9) 2,239
TT4 HEADLAMPS,TUNGSTEN QUARTZ HALOGEN HALOGEN HDLP(TT4) 2,446
T93 LAMP,TAIL AND STOP(SPECIAL)(DELETES CHROME EDGING)(USED WITH INTERNATIONAL WJ9) SPECIAL TAIL & S/LP(T93) 1,256
UA1 BATTERY,HEAVY DUTY HVY DUTY BAT(UA1) 2,038
UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER) GA(UB3) 2,446
UM6 RADIO,AM/FM STEREO,CASSETTE,ETR,INCLUDES CLOCK STEREO CASSETTE(UM6) 1,480
UQ1 RADIO,PROVISIONS FOR STEREO STEREO RDO PR0VISIONS(UQ1) 2,446
U19 SPEEDOMETER,INSTRUMENT,KILOMETERS PER HOUR KPH SPEEDO(U19) 2,446
U25 LAMP,INTERIOR,REAR COMPARTMENT COURTESY RR COMPT CTSY LP(U25) 2,239
U26 LAMP,INTERIOR,ENGINE COMPARTMENT COURTESY E/CMPT CTSY LP(U26) 2,239
U29 LAMP,INTERIOR,INSTRUMENT PANEL,COURTESY I/P CTSY LP(U29) 2,239
U79 SPEAKER SYSTEM,4,DUAL FRONT COAX,DUAL EXTENDED RANGE PACKAGE SHELF 4 SPKR SYS(U79) 2,446
VAN Unknown 2,446
VK3 LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3) 2,446
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73) 2,446
WW1 AERO PACKAGE(WHITE METALLIC)(USED WITH AERO PACKAGE W62) AERO PKG(WW1) 503
W62 AERO PACKAGE AERO PKG(W62) 2,446
Z28 SPECIAL PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,IROC-Z(MERCHANDISING OPTION) IROC-Z PKG(Z28) 1,256
Z31 IDENTIFICATION - PRICE SHEET ADVANCE 2,446
Z49 MANDATORY CANADIAN BASE EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS(CANADIAN) CANADIAN(Z49) 2,446

okfoz

Car was originally white, a players car...

You probably already knew that