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Quoted off the History Channel website


"1988 Iroc-Z Camaro.
Airs on Wednesday, January 5 at 9:00pm ET

History heads to the drag strip in this series as popular cars of the past are transformed into fine-tuned machines, revamped and ready for the speedway. Part reality show, part history, Full Throttle lets car lovers get under the hoods of their favorite rides. Two teams are given the same model of car in a similar state of disrepair. Supplied with a garage, tools, and parts, they've got just two days to get their wheels into high gear as they prepare to compete in an all-or-nothing drag race. The winner drives away in both cars; the loser walks away empty-handed; the viewer gets an adrenaline dose of automotive history. In this episode, GM's raging 1988 street machines, Iroc-Z Camaros, get a boost with new superchargers--giving them 70% more horsepower. TVPG"

Just a heads up. The History part of the show should be sweet the mechanical aspect is to be desired though.

SloCobra

I love the hitory portions of this show. The mechanical stuff is retarded. They couldn't even get grand nationals to run 15's with a turbo swap.

This worries me because people will watch it and still believe the "turd" gen propaganda. These cars are a lingenfelter intake runner away from ruining most peoples ****.

Will be fun to watch nonetheless.

Bill Speed

What exactly faults the 3rd gen from domination? The fact it is unibody? I can't see why anything with a small block Chevy and rear wheel drive can't be an awesome street/strip machine with well thought out mods and a healthy money injection.
Of course, bigger blocks, more valves, etc., can certainly do more. Take a 12 cyl exotic, or Carroll Shelby's original and new Cobras... Alot of engine in a small light and 'tight' car has the right ingredients to be a serious racer. I think over all Porsche's 911 has the most impressive history in cardom. The F cars sadly weren't as important to GM as Mustang was to Ford... and even with Corvette, GM holds back in engineering it to put more threat in the worlds' best. Of course, outside of the Allante Cadillacs, GM doesn't really cater to the price is no object crowd. Here it fell short as well, I'm referring to those original sticker prices of $50,000
Bill

91rsowner4life

:hail: thirdgen camaro history i cant wait!:lala:

nick418

man i cant wait to see this, i wonder if its gona be a L98 or Lb9.. Those guys cant drive for ****... Watch when there gonna bring the IROCs to the track there gonna runs 18s or somthin

Gladstoneiroc

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Set to tape.

7plagues

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eh i watched an el camino and ford ranchero one...and it was sad supposidly these 400hp engines couldn only propel these cars into 14.7@ 94mph in the quarter.. but the camino did win hehe. kinda interesting show though, im gonna most definately watch the Iroc-z one

Zrated83

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Sweet! I was flippin through the channels yesterday and saw one of their commercials and saw an Iroc. Cant wait!

IROCThe5.7L

We installed a supercharger and nitrious on these L98's with 190,000 miles on them. They flew down the track at a solid 17.5@80mph

7plagues

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LOL^ yea those guys suck at what they do

Thirdgen89GTA

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What if they picked TBI Iroc-Zs? I know they are out there.

If its a good running L98 with a super charger I predict it goes nowhere, kills the tranny or blows the axel. If if it doesn't blow anything then it'll probably just sit n' spin.

Probably run 15's. They got GN's to only hit 14's. They added an intercooler and a bigger turbo. How can a GN NOT go at least 13's with that combo.

Bill Speed

I personally think the 3rd gen Bird should sift wind a bit better then the bulky body on the Camaros. Sure there's more of them, and it seems more Chevy owners on these boards as well, but the Bird is more streamlined. I recall those initial GM ads in HotRod, Car Craft and the like.
I'll miss it, not having cable. Certainly sounds like it may end up being a disappointment anyway
BILL

Thirdgen89GTA

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If you gave these guys an old LT1 vette they'd find a way to make it run 15's.

7plagues

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yea i dont know a few nights ago i watched battle of the uglies and they had nitrous on them and new 4carb and intake and still could only manage a best of like 19 seconds... and they had them dialed in at like 18? and not one of then could get close to that so maybe they just really reallly reallly suck at driving

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Their aerodynamics aren't that much better and Camaros are lighter.

Cadillac

Are too!

Are not!

Are too!

Whatever!

FIRERBURD 4EVER!

Bill Speed

I'm not sure what accounts for weight difference, but I'd bet there's more 'cosmetic cladding' on the Maro then any Firebird hehehe
I'm being friendly here, but yes, I feel even more strongly for the Bird since it's not being brought back by GM... Gonna stick by the Eldos too

Thirdgen89GTA

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Birds are heavier than Camaro's. The Camaro head light pockets catch lots of air and that is mostly what makes birds take the advantage in aerodynamics.

The Camaro's hood line is higher as well, so it doesn't create as much downforce. But the downforce numbers on these cars are so minimal that the difference is little to nothing.

The 84-90 trans ame style front end creates some nice downforce for the front end at high speeds, and the aerowing help keep it stable in the back as well. The 91/92 bird style is more aerodynamic, but without that nice airdaming front end it probably isn't as stable at speed. Also the whale tail wing does not create as much downforce. Then again its not enough to really make a difference anyways.

okfoz

Which Whale Tail? The stock AERO spoiler from 85-90 was the most usable spoiler put on Firebird 3rd gens. When Banks Turbo'd a T/A he used the stock spoiler for 200 Mph speeds...

John

Thirdgen89GTA

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I'm sorry, I refer to the 91/91 spoilers as whale tails. I guess the 85-90 spoiler is a whale tale too, but I've always called it the aerospoiler. Maybe I mixed the terms up.

85-90 > 91/92 for downforce. Looks, now that is in the eye of the beholder.

However the actual downforce numbers from any of the factory spoilers isn't really all that much. Its enough to help it remain stable at high speeds.

okfoz

I personally prefer the looks of the 85-90 over the 91-92. BUT I have seen a 91-92 car with the early AeroSpoiler and it looked odd... I think the spoilers are probably just right for each application... On a side note the High rise 4th gen spoiler looks to whacked out for my taste on our cars.

megaracerx

if they use 305's my bet is maybe 16's....after mods...

Dr.NickRiviera

Of all the times to get rid of my satellite. Anyone here care to record this on computer and set up a torrent or something???

Bill Speed

I never refer to the spoilers used on F cars as whale tails. That's reserved for most of the venting to radiator style used on Porsche's famed 911/930 cars.
Aerospoiler works for me, but how about some pics to describe the terms you associate so we're not getting mixed up. I always have to refer to a pic reference for cars I don't have a good mental picture of.
As far as video production covering F cars of the 80s, I REALLY want to find the History channels circa 1990 or 99 (??) broadcast of the history of Automobiles. Anyone who saw this witnessed specialized segments on particular cars of interest and in particular Jim Wangers (help me if I got his name wrong here) gleefully recalling the amazing 1989 turbo Transam as we witness dozens of them being unloaded from a car carrier.
I have my VHS labelled tape but sadly, recorded over what I have of this show.
There was a proceeding segment on the saga of the Avante and Avante II as well as John Delorean's days at GM and the birth of the Firebird. This is some of the best video I've ever seen and sadly cannot find on store shelves archived to DVD.
I have a Pontiac history video via eBay that covers dealers videos sales stats and also has the famed 1992 Firehawk promo clip with Ed Hamburger... so cool, I fear I may wear this out rewatching it on tape!
Bill