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scottmoyer

That's a customer modified car. Only a few were made by Motion Performance. They are not valuable or rare. The 80's versions of the Motion Performance cars are like taking a car to the local performance shop and having them build it up to something else.

I verified this last year when I talked to Joel Rosen of Motion Performance.

90-irocdx3

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how much would u say they are worth?

scottmoyer

It all depends on the options and condition of the vehicle. According to Joel, only a few were made and there were no 2 identical cars. He built the cars to the customer specs. I would say they are worth what any other Camaro in the same condition/miles is worth.

nick418

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Air_Adam

Kinda wish I hadn't seen that... its pretty uhh.... '80s (I'm being nice here)

HALLSRESTO

........i realize rare seems to be a FOUR letter word whe dealing with third gen cars....but i think tyhe word by definition means not many made or many left...i.e. hard to find etc...RARE they ARE....worth alot is a different story...im sure they are far more rare than any year original IROC ...yes they suffer from the 80s styling,,but after all they are as much a part of the third gen world as the original motion cars of teh late 60s and early 70s....neither generation carried a GM RPO code so i cant see the differnece, other than worth...and lets face it a 70-73 phase III camaro was a pretty wild design in its day, with fender flares,side pipes, and L88 hood...they are border line fugly compared to a factory SS or z28 car..alls im saying is lets be careful what we call not rare , just becouse the worth is not as much as RARE usually is.....just my 2cents

scottmoyer

There's a big difference between the 80's Motion Camaro and the 60's and 70's version. The 60s and 70s models were dealer modified cars. They fell into the same category as the Yenkos, Danas, Nickeys and Bergers. Baldwin Chevrolet contracted out Motion Performance to create a specialty car. During the 80s, there were no dealer modified cars with performance upgrades on Camaros that would allow them to stand out. Look at the TTA or the Grand National GNX. They were probably the only specialty cars of that era and came in limited numbers.

The more recent dealer modified cars (Berger Chevrolet SS and ZL1, the Earnhardt Chevrolet Intimidator SS, Tom Henry Chevrolet SS and Carl Black Pontiac's Black Bird WS6) will be like the earlier models and will be very desired and valuable in time.

All of these cars had performance option packages. The 80s Motion car had no option package. It was modified to the extent the owner wanted with either appearance and/or performance. No 2 cars were built the same.

HALLSRESTO

ok that does make sense on the motion cars if teh 80s ones were taken to motion by the owners and they paid for joels shop to convert them......but i must ask anither question i have brought up before,,and im sure i know the answer and i think we are going to have to agree to disagree.....by what you say wouldnt the early motion cars and maybe even yenko cars be considered dealer installed options???? and if not i must ask how they differ compared to my 84 ZF camaro we have previously discussed (im not comparing value, quality,or history) but i just cant see the difference...people will say a baldwin-motion camaro is original with its solid cammed 454 and side pipes,,,but they say my 84 zf and its sunroof arent.....both are technically dealer installed or contracted...right????after all motion,and berger were indendent dealers , modifying cars on their own,,,no RPO codes for either,,,...and let me say im really not trying to be a pain,,i just cant see what the technical difference is...i think my car has a place in third gen history,,,a small one but one nonetheless....i realize mine is not a performance option,,but that shouldnt matter,,,and the oposite of what you say is true,,tehy obviously made several alike,,so its not a one off....i have pictures and documents of 27 cars and have heard of several more on this site....please dont take offense to my question as i meen none,,just trying to understand...thanks for your time ,,jack

cam-

Whoa!!! That thing must have some serious power man... I mean look EIGHT tail pipes! I better get welding asap...

scottmoyer

The difference between the ZF Camaro and the older dealer optioned cars are the performance upgrades. An appearance package will not be as desirable as performance and suspension upgrades. Again, look at other dealer modified cars during the eighties. Choo Choo customs modified El Caminos and other vehicles with appearance items only. They too don't bring any additional value to the car today. The GNX and TTA were given performance upgrades and are very desirable.

I won't say that the ZF cars or the Olympic Edition cars don't have a place in history, but the value is "usually" set based on demand and the demand has historically been for performance.

In regards to the Motion cars of the 80's, Joel Rosen informed me that the cars were modified to the customers specs with the only duplicates being by chance. He said there were only a few made and I don't remember the totals, but I'm thinking about 12(???). Where did you get info on 27? Joel said he has no documentation on these cars.

HALLSRESTO

im sorry scott,, i was talking in circles,,lol,,,teh 27 i have pics of are of the 84 ZF cars and not teh motion cars,,sorry...and thanks for listening to me ramble on,,,and i will say i agree with you on teh value of the cars,,i know my car isnt worth anything,,to anyone but me,,,but thats fine becouse its not for sale,,lol....just have been trying to convice people for many years taht the car was this way when my father bought it new and not some k-mart hack job...lol...thanks again jack

scottmoyer

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conlinj

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There's 2 zf car's near me right now, pretty beat up though. I doubt he knows what it is.

-Jim

cam-

Not to get off topic but I just had a few beers and felt like saying something so...


even RARER yes RARE RARE RARE there i said it

The 80's Players cars. Made specially by GM in VERY limited numbers in the 80's. Barrett Jackson has had a few go through for good dollars already.

90-irocdx3

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the red one would seem worth it to buy,but not the yellow one. it seems if just pulled off the 8 exhaust tips and just had two the red one wouldn't look to bad. i am sure the guy who owns these cars knows what they are. i got these pics of Supercar Registry, presented by the sYc , who where posted from the owner. they are certianly not worth much maybe 10-12k max since they are motion cars.