joshp14

Care for a 91-92 Firehawk? You have to to choose from....both #3 and 26 are currently on ebay....very nice birds...

91 Hawk #3

92 Hawk #26

85_ZED28

:hail: :hail: :hail: i want

CraZ-28

I thought the Firehawks all had the T-Ram setups. #26 has a miniram setup on it. Hmmmmmmm

Also, I noticed that one had a roll cage and the other didn't. What determined which ones got one and didn't. Was it an option or a handful of options that gave it the cage?

Just would like to know.

joshp14

I believe that only a few had the roll cages on them...some 12 point, some 6. I'm not 100% sure about which got what though. I know that if you head to the history board theres a lot of good info on the 91-92 hawks...along with a site dedicated to them.

br()bert

I thought the admin or someone said no ebay links because ebay isnt paying tgo for advertising?

joshp14

No business being advertised here bud...

Orinackra

The guy who owned it put that on instead I believe.

FlamedROC

I would be willin to bet that 26 doesnt have the original motor in it...I'm not current on my hawks but I dont think SLP would have put a miniram on it plus pretty sure they didnt come with 383's

obviously if im wrong someone plese let me know but thats what i think..

Jason

330hp_91RS

The #26 looks fishy to me.

A 383??? Rodeck 383????

That may be a Miniram, but at first glance it looked like an LT1 intake to me. Plus the car has Headers on it and who knows what else.....if that motor is all original I will be amazed.

nikh23

wasn't the #3 hawk owned by a member on the boards by the name of 92gta?

nolanr0413

omg, thats so awesome, i want one of those, has anyone on this board made a firhawk clone yet .

joshp14

That's his name...I knew someone did but I couldn't remember his name. He hangs out a lot on the history/restoration board...

okfoz

#26 is Legit, I looked at it at SLP here in MI back in 1998 or 1999, back then I think it only had 10K on it, I also looked at #1 which had 14K.

When I looked at #26 it had the basic TPI setup and it does have an Aluminum Hood AND the Aluminum Engine, I think SLP swapped out the TPI setup. The reason why there is no t-ram? I have no idea, but it did not have it when I looked at it.

The car was originally purchased by someone in HI, thus why there is no rear defog. But I think it has everything else.

AS for the Roll cage in #3... It was an Option, like the Brembo brakes, the seats were also an option.

John

85 T/A WS6

This is a goofy rule. I had an auction removed, it was my auction so it was deleted.

Me:

"Im selling my Car" = Post Deleted

Now if somebody else posted my auction it would be fine

My Friend:

"Hey look at this car on eBay" = Post Remains on board.

And yes both above auctions are an advertisement for Vintage Auto Sales, Inc.

Please dont show me where the rules are or try to cram some agreement down my neck because its all

FruityOne

Source - http://www.transamgta.com/Firehawk/026.html

If the statement above holds water then this car is as valid as the T-ram hawks.

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

I'm no expert, but that was what I understood to be true as well. I've read that explanation several times before.

...and as for headers, I was under the impression that all Hawks had headers.

330hp_91RS

All the hawks have headers???

I know nothing about these things.

That is really cool if they do.

What kind are they, SLP???? That would make the most sense I guess, LOL.

Orinackra

According to the firehawk brochure, they had SLP stainless steel tubular headers and dual cats.

Check it out.
http://www.firehawk.org/images/lit/1992/92right.jpg

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

I wonder if they had to dent the primary to clear the steering column!!!


...actually I think they were 1-5/8" headers...which seem to fit.

okfoz

My 1 3/4" headers fit great, nothing to modify...

They probably are the 1 5/8 tho because I believe the 1 3/4 were released after the 92 Firehawk.

Actually the TPIS type intake was installed AFTER 1998. I distinctly remember it having a TPI setup, my dad pointed it out and said he liked the looks of it better than the t-ram.

John

grngryoutmyway

iTrader: (1)

Both those cars have been on the sellers website for quite some time advertised at 40K... as far as I know there both legit.. doesn't look like there gonna sell tho

Orinackra

GOOD. Gives me some time to save up some cash!!

f-crazy

iTrader: (-1)

Before i read another "i think" or " i beleive" ill direct your attention here becasue itll save me a lot of time sorting through all the nonsense
http://www.transamgta.com/Firehawk/


everything your wanting to know and a whole helluva lot more you didnt think about knowing...

heres a litte teaser

0-60mph in just 4.6 seconds, 1/4 mile in just 13.2 (1 magazine reported a 12.9!!!) and a top speed of 160+ along with a skid pad of .94g's

this is in 91 remember =)

FruityOne

I already pulled the info for Firehawk #26 right off that very site. Take a look at the URL I posted as the source of the quote.

92GTA

iTrader: (11)

I'm glad to see that my page is referred to as more or less the definitive 3rd gen firehawk page, that's what it was meant to be. It's too bad that I have so much more info on each car and their histories and owners that I won't even put up there for privacy and stuff.

I won't say what the reserve is on #003 but I assure you it's so high it will never hit it, not for like 20 years anyway.

Same goes for #026. Those auctions are both more or less for the consignment house to test the waters to see what they are actually worth Vs. what he was told to sell them for.

Mods, please feel free to delete this post when you think it's needed.

Alex

f-crazy

iTrader: (-1)

well honestly, i started skimming and saw an i think in every post..so i went to the end...after i repleid i saw your url, which is for 26 like posted...i posted the "main" firehawk page...you know how people are..wont serach the site for the right page...have to make it easy on everyone :

okfoz

My honest opinion, a firehawk in todays economy is worth about $15,000 to $30,000...

I think (I know its another I believe statement ) #26 was sold for about $24,000 a few years back by SLP, I dont remember what #1 brought. I do know that one sold at the Barett-Jackson auction for $17,000 ish, The race car I was offered back in 1998 for $17,000 and I see it was for sale on autotrader for $15,000, With this in mind, I would bet a low miles (less than 10K mi) Firehawk would be about $30,000, 10-25K mi $20,000 -30,000 and higher than that would be in the teens.

John

92GTA

iTrader: (11)

Uhhh, my #003 was the highest of all sold at Barrett-Jackson selling for around $20K and it had only 1,250 miles!!!!

Now it has nearly 1,700 but it's been completely gone through, rear, fuel system, battery, whole nine-yards. Even Dyno tuned and it showed even more RWTQ than #026 Gotta love that

IMO #003 is the most valuable of any of the 91/92 Firehawks, surpassed only by maybe the 'vert but the vert isn't real, it was pulled off a lot to be converted.

Honestly, #003 is worth about $35. It's not the lowest milage, but in the lowest 5 for sure. It also is by far the best running of any of those 5.

Again, all IMO...

nikh23

geez man, i'd give the car a little more value than just $35 bucks. heh just playin. *** i'd kill to own any firehawk regardless of which one it is.

GTADave

Well,
The bidding did not go very high on either car. Number 026 hit $11,901 and number 003 hit $15,600.

The consigment house has #26 listed for $39,900 and #003 for #37,500. I guess they just got an idea of what people on ebay are willing to spend.

- Dave

jcsws6

I think that show that you car is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

What you think you car is all good and well, GET SOMEONE TO PAY IT

TAdan

I was the high bidder on #026. I actually bid higher, but it still didnt meet the reserve, so my bid never went as high as it could have.

I tried car #003, but didnt want to go any higher.

Oh well, I would have been happy to buy the car, but didnt meet the reserve

okfoz

Once you break throuh 30,000, start looking at Ferraris, thats my advise.

John

GTADave

I agree. Their are alot of nice "collector" cars at $30,000 which really impacts the demand of ultra rare 3rd gens. You could get a really nice 73/74 SD-455 Trans Am or Formula or a nice 69 Trans Am.

But don't get me wrong, I would really like to have a 91/92 Firehawk, but not at $30,000.

At these current prices these cars take a very long time to sell. Car #21 in Indiana sat on the dealers lot for over 2 years at $30,000 and it had 2900 miles on it. I doubt it sold for their asking price. Unfortunately it had this very thick undercoating on which in my opinion really reduced the value of the car.

- Dave

Orinackra

You know that kinda pisses me off a bit. Why even put it on ebay if the reserve is so high noone will meet it. Its just a teaser auction.

Orinackra

Also looked at the guys webpage...he wants 37,500 for the red one, and 39,900 for the teal one.

okfoz

I guess there really not interested in selling them...

I think the only purpose of the auction was to get a feel for what people are willing to pay. Honestly I think there going to be disapointed, and I will be VERY surprised either goes above $20,000

John

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

You know what, I've ALWAYS wanted a Firehawk, and because I don't really have the money, I never really thought it through, but there's NO WAY that if I had $30,000 I'd buy a FireHawk. No disrespect intended in anyway. I LOVE those cars, but that's just a whole TON of money.

I'm not saying that it's only worth $11,000 either. Just that $30,000 is a LOT of money!

f-crazy

iTrader: (-1)

comon guys...that car was built to compete with ferraris and ZR1's....just the fact that itll run door to door with a friggin ZR1 is worth 30,000...not only that itll outhandle it and outstop it...ferrari F-40 brakes...roll cage, fuel cell,...the rear end the tranny...did you know that ZF 6 speed will probly cost 6 grand or so to go buy....just the parts in the car is well over 30 grand....

ALEX i will be more then willing to sell a kidney for #3...just tell me were to sign....

dont mean to step on toes here, but the sheer amount of bang for your buck is more then enough to justify the cost of havin 1 OF 25 and 1 OF 1 with the 12 point and fuel cell....those cars were no frills bad to the bone kick your LS1's *** turn key street legal race cars...


Does anyone know the going rate for kidnes these days?

GTADave

Sounds like we have a buyer for #003.

Anybody else have a kidney??

- Dave

okfoz

This conversation has been around before, and I really agree with Abubaca, Its a ton of money to pay for a car, thats going on 13 years old.

I still contend for $30,000 a better purchase would be a Ferrari 308 or a 328 if you get lucky, they are out there... When I look at a Firehawk its an awesome piece of engeneering, no doubt...

UNFORTUNATELY outside of car circles who knows what it is, If your filthey Rich and like cars but know very little about them. Your not going to be looking for a firebird, your looking at Ferraris to get your thrill, there is no status in a Firehawk outside of a small circle of people.
A Ferrari 308 would turn alot more heads than a Firehawk, and for a headturner the Firehawk looks like a Firebird with aftermarket wheels.

When my dad looked at them with me one comment he said "it looks just like yours with different wheels, who would care?"

John

f-crazy

iTrader: (-1)

dude ive been telling alex (92GTA) that since i registerd on his site a few years back...i guess both his are good
you can only have so many kidneys lol





well if your looking for a car for status purposes then that ferrari will boost your "ego" but who wants a car to sit and collect dust...FFFFFFFF that......i gaurandamntee that if i ever own a hawk that MF'er will be driven regulary....status?..puhhhhhh more like the baddest friggin firebird on the planet....thats enough stats for me...

okfoz

thats cool, I would probably drive it about as much as I do my current one, about 1500, to 2000 miles a year, avoid the rain, keep the oil changed, put the hammer down, burn the rubber off, you know all that kid stuff that I am slowly outgrowing.. oh wait, I still love to turn my Formula sideways

John

br()bert

30 g's is too much for a car that old and comon look at the numbers the car isnt that bad ***. Put no place near the amount of money it would take to buy that car into the car you have now and it'll beat the firehawks ***** off. 30 g'd for some wheels and stickers is .. Sure some people are always going to be on the firehawk bandwagon no matter what someone says.

BumpaD82

I bid on both of them just 'cause I want one so Damn bad! :hail:

f-crazy

iTrader: (-1)

Lmao...do you have ANY clue on what was invloved in the 91-92 hawks....Stickers and wheels for the 4th gens yea, but the first hawks were anything but wheels and stickers ....id go as far as sayin "subtle..wolf in sheeps clothing"....I guess you missed the "12 pt. roll CAGE, Fuel cell, Dana 44 rear end"...this aint a **** rocket buddy, that "Firehawk" STICKER means something...why dont you look up the stats on the car before you say some really really dumb ****...
I happen to agree that 30 grand is a nice chunk of change for ANY firebird...i personally woulnd never in a hundred years pay 35,000 for a 4th gen EFFF that...But the simple fact of the matter is, this car was built to compete againt cars that were 2 and 3 times as expensive...the ZR1 was 65 thousand bucks, and the 40 thousand dollar firebird will wear it out in every aspect of performance meneuverablilty...Not only that you want to talk Ferrari Exclusivity or "status" how many enzo's will be imported into the us? 100...only 25 of those firebirds, 1 with the 12 point and driveshaft loop....now that im good and going here lets compare some more number for ***** and giggles.....

575 maranello
Cost...$250,000
0-60...4.3
Slalomn...66.2
60-0...115 feet
1/4...12.4-5
Curb weight....3200 (a bit heavy im sure)

91 Firehawk
Cost...$40,000 (when new)
0-60...4.6
Slalom...68.3
60-0...128 feet
1/4...13.1-2
Curb weight...3395


Now this is comparing apples to oranges but the point is this 30 thousand dollar firebird will STILL wear out exoctics every time..in a straight line or on a track

LMMFAO@ wheels and stickers....im gonna have to quote that one lol

br()bert

Blah,blah,blah... while were comparing ridiculous cars to each other, the guy down the street from me has a 10 second crx that would tear this firehawk and (sadly) many other cars a new ***. Im not putting down ANY f body!!!

My point is, with the money spent on a firehawk
you can mod your car to perform much better and VERY possibly beat the ***** off of any firehawk.

And it is all stickers and wheels. All the crap you listed can be put in any f body. Its nothing special. Get off the bandwagon man.

Alexcoqui

you crazy?

the value of the car is not in how fast it could go, nor would you buy that car to be driving it around. that hawk belongs in the midle of your living room. Its the coolest firebird you could ever own! an investment, in 20 years that car with that few miles = $$$.

plus again, its the coolest 3rd gen bird you could ever own.

92GTA

iTrader: (11)

Sounds like br()bert wouldn't pay $100,000 for a '69 ZL1 COPO with the original engine either because to him it be "Just" a Camaro. Give me a break retard.

Anyway, sure it's not everybody's cup of tea but hey, I love Firebirds and to anyone who loves Firebirds the ultimate Firebird IS the 91/92 Firehawk. It is to the Firebird what the '69 ZL1 COPO is to the Camaro, the top dog of it's entire production run.

I'm sure 25 years ago no one would have paid $20,000 for a '69 ZL1 and I doubt more people even knew what it was than the number who knows of the 91/92 Firehawks today...

Sure if you want to be a "poser" with "new money" and look like every other "self indulgent wiener" (Yes I love that quote) then get yourself a new Ferrari, then get a life and buy a GTB 4-cam when you finally figure out that it's better.

I used to be into Porsche's, I was however into Firebirds even before that, but I went through a phase of wanting a car that everyone wanted just because everyone else wanted it but now I've moved on. Fact is I love Firebirds and #003 is the ultimate made period. Not to say I wouldn't own a 550 Spyder or a 73 Carrera, or even a 959, they just aren't who "I" am...

Mr. TurboTA

Well,
The only thing I can say is, the Firehawk won't cost as much as the Ferrari to maintain, let along insure it!
I know a few people with the 308, and they are always working on it!
Now, the 328 is a different story! That one, I wouldn't mind having! Firehawk? Wouldn't mind having one either!
Status? You bet! But, you would have it with either car!

My take,

George