AC Delete - What did it include?
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Car: 88 Trans Am
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AC Delete - What did it include?
A little weird that I am asking what the AC DELETE "included"...but I don't know how else to word it.
First of all, what years was AC Delete available?
Here' what I think that it included....Am I right?
-AC delete pulley
-AC delete heater box
-a heater and vent-only HVAC control
Anything else?
Another thing I am wondering is if the ac delete HVAC controls only came with the slider or did they come with the push button one as well?
I have an 88 TA with a digital dash. Some of my AC stuff is gone already. I want to do the conversion correctly, but I don't know if that is possible with a push-button HVAC control.
What is the difference between the AC heater box and a AC delete heater box? And on that note would would the effect be of removing the heater core? (I don't drive my car in the winter so I don't need the heater) The only thing I use on my HVAC controls is the front defrost.
thanks,
First of all, what years was AC Delete available?
Here' what I think that it included....Am I right?
-AC delete pulley
-AC delete heater box
-a heater and vent-only HVAC control
Anything else?
Another thing I am wondering is if the ac delete HVAC controls only came with the slider or did they come with the push button one as well?
I have an 88 TA with a digital dash. Some of my AC stuff is gone already. I want to do the conversion correctly, but I don't know if that is possible with a push-button HVAC control.
What is the difference between the AC heater box and a AC delete heater box? And on that note would would the effect be of removing the heater core? (I don't drive my car in the winter so I don't need the heater) The only thing I use on my HVAC controls is the front defrost.
thanks,
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Well since both my thirdgen's that I have owned have not had RPO C60 I can anwser your question.
First off, it really isn't truly an A/C delete since A/C was tecnically an option. It's listed as a delete in most descriptions of the 1LE package but that isn't correct.
The vents closest to the door on the dash aren't there like on the A/C cars. Maybe I can take a pic later to explain it better.
The push button one was a GTA thing and I haven't seen a non-A/C push button control. It should have been a slider unit.
I've never heard of anyone wanting to remove the heater core. I imagine you could pull if off if you bypassed it and then you would get ambient temperature being passed through the vents from then on.
First off, it really isn't truly an A/C delete since A/C was tecnically an option. It's listed as a delete in most descriptions of the 1LE package but that isn't correct.
-AC delete pulley
-AC delete heater box
-a heater and vent-only HVAC control
Anything else?
-AC delete heater box
-a heater and vent-only HVAC control
Anything else?
The push button one was a GTA thing and I haven't seen a non-A/C push button control. It should have been a slider unit.
I've never heard of anyone wanting to remove the heater core. I imagine you could pull if off if you bypassed it and then you would get ambient temperature being passed through the vents from then on.
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Car: 1989 Firebird Formula
Engine: Internal Combustion
Transmission: Completed
Axle/Gears: ones that turn.
Here's a shot of the interior of my non-AC 89 Formula.
You can see the block-off plate for the outer vent (the gray one is only temporary), and you can just make out the slider controls for the heater system.
PS: if you think it looks messy now, you shoulda seen it when I got it
Pete
You can see the block-off plate for the outer vent (the gray one is only temporary), and you can just make out the slider controls for the heater system.
PS: if you think it looks messy now, you shoulda seen it when I got it
Pete
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From: South Windsor, CT
Car: '89 GTA
Engine: ZZ6TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.70:1
All 88' and later V8 cars came standard with A/C, so the A/C delete option would apply. Previous years would just not have the A/C option if you didn't want it. This was most likely done because of the serpentine belt setup starting in 88' so that they could use the same belt and brackets. The lack of A/C on the v-belt setup would just have one less belt. As far as the digital dash, it was an option in the GTA's. I am speculating, but I would imagine that the digital dash would not be allowed with the A/C delete.
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Originally posted by TransamGTA350
All 88' and later V8 cars came standard with A/C, so the A/C delete option would apply. Previous years would just not have the A/C option if you didn't want it.
All 88' and later V8 cars came standard with A/C, so the A/C delete option would apply. Previous years would just not have the A/C option if you didn't want it.
This was most likely done because of the serpentine belt setup starting in 88' so that they could use the same belt and brackets. The lack of A/C on the v-belt setup would just have one less belt.
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Car: '89 GTA
Engine: ZZ6TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.70:1
Originally posted by iroc22
Yeah but it was the same serpentine belt. The only difference is there was a pulley instead of a compressor.
Yeah but it was the same serpentine belt. The only difference is there was a pulley instead of a compressor.
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Car: '89 GTA
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Transmission: T56
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The non-A/C serpentine belt is the same as the A/C belt. The A/C delete option came with an idler pulley in place of the A/C compressor. If you wanted to remove the smog pump, then you would have to measure for a smaller belt, or make an idler pulley.
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Car: 2000 astro
Engine: 4.3
Transmission: A4
Axle/Gears: 7.5 with 3.42 gears
Originally posted by iroc22
What was the RPO code for A/C delete?
What was the RPO code for A/C delete?
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Originally posted by robertg
as far as i know, the "a/c delete" would have c41 only, which is the standard heater......
as far as i know, the "a/c delete" would have c41 only, which is the standard heater......
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Originally posted by iroc22
Exactly. C41 was standard and A/C was a option, coded C60. If there was such a thing as a A/C delete package, my car would have a RPO code listed for it in the SPID sheet.
Exactly. C41 was standard and A/C was a option, coded C60. If there was such a thing as a A/C delete package, my car would have a RPO code listed for it in the SPID sheet.
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