Bogus GTA's
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Car: 1988 GTA Notchback
Engine: 5.7 TPI
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Bogus GTA's
There is some stroke on Ebay advertising a 1990 T/A as a GTA.
I confronted him about it and the guy gets hostile, says that a Carfax report told him it was a GTA.
If you are looking to buy a real GTA, and the RPO sticker does not have the Y84 option on it keep looking.......its not a GTA.
I confronted him about it and the guy gets hostile, says that a Carfax report told him it was a GTA.
If you are looking to buy a real GTA, and the RPO sticker does not have the Y84 option on it keep looking.......its not a GTA.
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Told the wingnut the same thing. It is obviously not a GTA. He said the same Carfax crap. Then I ask him, if he was going by Carfax says, why HE lists "305/5.0L V8 TPI engine" in the description and where he got the idea it had "Anti Lock Brakes". He does a Porky Pig imitation and hangs up. The low bid shows more people know about the car than this idiot does.
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
What a tool, its absolutely not a GTA by visual confirmation, it lacks the badges and even has the Trans Am fender scoops.
VIN doesnt confirm GTA, as stated above RPO lists do, the only way a VIN can confirm GTA is through PHC.
My car is missing its RPO but all the visuals are there, GTA badges on each fender, on the hood, the sail panels, the gold laced rims, articulating seats, (for 89) the steering wheel with radio buttons.
That car on ebay shows all evidence to it NOT being a GTA and only a Trans Am. sorry CarFax doesnt prove a GTA.
All high bidders should be warned, this stuff cannot be allowed.
VIN doesnt confirm GTA, as stated above RPO lists do, the only way a VIN can confirm GTA is through PHC.
My car is missing its RPO but all the visuals are there, GTA badges on each fender, on the hood, the sail panels, the gold laced rims, articulating seats, (for 89) the steering wheel with radio buttons.
That car on ebay shows all evidence to it NOT being a GTA and only a Trans Am. sorry CarFax doesnt prove a GTA.
All high bidders should be warned, this stuff cannot be allowed.
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
On Sep-16-02 at 20:31:07 PDT, seller added the following information:
A couple people e-mailed me saying that they don't think this is a GTA, but the VIN # check through Carfax returns a Trans Am GTA with a 5.7L engine. So if you got a problem with that, please contact Carfax. I'm not a Firebird expert and since Carfax rarely makes mistakes I will go with their description. Please don't e-mail me with a 10-page essay arguing the difference between a Trans Am and a GTA, send it to Carfax and make them change their information if you think they're wrong.
This guy listed it as private! he essentially could be ripping someone off! this $3050 high bid 3 days left.
CARFAX cant authenicate a GTA only a Y84 RPO, PONTIAC or GM can!
A couple people e-mailed me saying that they don't think this is a GTA, but the VIN # check through Carfax returns a Trans Am GTA with a 5.7L engine. So if you got a problem with that, please contact Carfax. I'm not a Firebird expert and since Carfax rarely makes mistakes I will go with their description. Please don't e-mail me with a 10-page essay arguing the difference between a Trans Am and a GTA, send it to Carfax and make them change their information if you think they're wrong.
This guy listed it as private! he essentially could be ripping someone off! this $3050 high bid 3 days left.
CARFAX cant authenicate a GTA only a Y84 RPO, PONTIAC or GM can!
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Engine: slowtacular L03 305
Transmission: slushem 700r4
I just ran the vin through carfax (their free bit) and it returns as a trans am/GTA not at trans am gta. Just run the vin number.
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
Originally posted by Jokerman
I just ran the vin through carfax (their free bit) and it returns as a trans am/GTA not at trans am gta. Just run the vin number.
I just ran the vin through carfax (their free bit) and it returns as a trans am/GTA not at trans am gta. Just run the vin number.
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I've seen so many ebay morons that try and say their car is a GTA, just so they can get a higher bid, it's kinda sad really. But from the ones I've seen they are really easy to tell they are fakes. I have yet to see a really good fake GTA...
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
Carfax also lists my GTA as having a TBI/FI, it is a TPI FI injection system.
Carfax generalizes:
Year/Make/Model: 1989 PONTIAC FIREBIRD TRANS AM/GTA
Body Style: Hatchback 2 DR
Engine Type: 5.0L V8 TBI/FI
Manufactured In: UNITED STATES
This is my car. which has yet to be officially verified a GTA but if it isnt my car is a more convincing clone than that fool on ebay's T/A
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Pontiac
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Trans Am, Formula
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 305 ci V8 LB9 (1987-1992)
3 is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1989
Assembly Plant: Van Nuys
Production Sequence: 247512
Heres the same car using this sites VIN decoder, note the LB9 (TPI) verification.
Carfax generalizes:
Year/Make/Model: 1989 PONTIAC FIREBIRD TRANS AM/GTA
Body Style: Hatchback 2 DR
Engine Type: 5.0L V8 TBI/FI
Manufactured In: UNITED STATES
This is my car. which has yet to be officially verified a GTA but if it isnt my car is a more convincing clone than that fool on ebay's T/A
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Pontiac
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Trans Am, Formula
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 305 ci V8 LB9 (1987-1992)
3 is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1989
Assembly Plant: Van Nuys
Production Sequence: 247512
Heres the same car using this sites VIN decoder, note the LB9 (TPI) verification.
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Here's the link to the ebay auction in case more of you want to email him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1859409795
What a tool...this guy needs to be bombarded from all of us with email telling him to quit advertising it as a GTA. It's only a click away!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1859409795
What a tool...this guy needs to be bombarded from all of us with email telling him to quit advertising it as a GTA. It's only a click away!
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Originally posted by 82RECAROTA
Note that the VIN decoder is also incorrect under Carline Series.
Firebirds ('85-'92) and Formula ('87-'92) VIN's start 1G2FS23.
Trans Am's ('85-92) and GTA's ('87-'92) VIN's start 1G2FW23.
With the exception of the '89 TTA 1G5FW21.
Note that the VIN decoder is also incorrect under Carline Series.
Firebirds ('85-'92) and Formula ('87-'92) VIN's start 1G2FS23.
Trans Am's ('85-92) and GTA's ('87-'92) VIN's start 1G2FW23.
With the exception of the '89 TTA 1G5FW21.
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
Originally posted by TPIterror
Here's another winner:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1859947021
nice Formula
Here's another winner:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1859947021
nice Formula
Even worse!
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Car: 1991 Formula
Engine: 350 firebreathing inches of Small Block Chevrolet
Transmission: A 700R4 that has trouble handling the formentioned 350.
" I Hate Stupid People "
People like this are people that give internet car sales a bad name.
Later, Garrett
People like this are people that give internet car sales a bad name.
Later, Garrett
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Car: 00 TA, 91 Formula, 89 RS
Engine: LS1 / 305 / 2.8, respectively
Transmission: T-56 / auto / auto
Originally posted by Chet
I've seen so many ebay morons that try and say their car is a GTA, just so they can get a higher bid, it's kinda sad really. But from the ones I've seen they are really easy to tell they are fakes. I have yet to see a really good fake GTA...
I've seen so many ebay morons that try and say their car is a GTA, just so they can get a higher bid, it's kinda sad really. But from the ones I've seen they are really easy to tell they are fakes. I have yet to see a really good fake GTA...
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Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LB9 TPI with L98 cam (Manual car)
Transmission: T5 5Speed/ 9bolt Borg-Warner 3.45 gears with posi
Originally posted by FyreLance
Or maybe you have, you just didn't know it.
Or maybe you have, you just didn't know it.
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Car: 91 firebird now
Engine: 305
Transmission: 5 speed
yea both fakes, but there is another code thats not Y84 that is a GTA its a special code having to do with the gta having leather seats and something.
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Car: '87 Formula
Engine: 350
Transmission: Auto
Originally posted by TPIterror
Here's another winner:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1859947021
nice Formula
Here's another winner:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1859947021
nice Formula
If that car is worth the buy it now price of $4500, I'm guessing mine is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $10k
HAHAHA
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ebayers, there is hope!had a similar problem on ebay, and after finding out correct info retracted my bid, stated facts as i knew them, ebay asked for reason for cancelling bid, and after i cancelled, and others found out correct info also cancelled there bids, just a litle tid bit!
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