I have a 91 RS Camaro V8 5 spd 305 tbi. How rare is this?
Thanks Joe

 

very not rare

 

on the v8 rs' there was 5,329 of them made that year

 

My bud has the same exact car...too bad its been in pieces the last two years...

 

I think we need a "what is a RARE 3rd gen" stickey on this board.
anyone?
hey is my 88 black iroc w/ t-tops and 15" wheels with a new 350 is that rare?
oh it doesn't have power seats? is it worth more?
J/K
biker

 

NO its not rare lol. & not worth more becase of the lack of power seats lol.

My classifcation of a rare car is less then 1k made or even less than that.

 

That's only half the story. Here's what makes a car rare:

1) how many were made,

2) how many you can see by pure chance, without specifically hunting them down.

example: 6360 1982 Z28 pace cars made. but how many have you ever seen on the road? 1, maybe 2? if more than that, you're lucky. i've seen zero on the road. they're on ebay quite often but they are more rare than any 1-of-500 iroc (example) you can think of, even though 12 times more were made.

another example: 20th anniversary trans am compared to 30th anniversary trans am. they made about 1500 of each.. in fact they made MORE 30th's, but the 30th's are going to be way more rare as time goes by.

gt

 

a car has to be desirble too for it to be be Rare/worth $$
lets start a list of true rare 3rd gens
the B4Cs
87 z-28 convert
82 z pace car
TTAs
Firehawks
a 85 350 :lala:
lol
biker

 

I see one everyday LOL Its got a C.I.F & All Disc Brakes. Nope its not on the road Yet But yet I see it ever day lol
Its sitting in my garage Next to my husbands 95z lol.

 

In the sticky post above, it states that Chevrolet does not (did not) keep records of option combinations. That means there is no official record of V8 RS's with 5-speeds were kept. So the only official records are:

1991
100,839 Total Camaro Production
79,854 RS Coupes
53,040 L03 V8 RS's
15,518 5-speed Camaros (includes RS's & Z28's)

These figures are directly from the Camaro White Book.


on the v8 rs' there was 5,329 of them made that year

Please cite your reference(s). Thank you.

 

That 5,329 was for V8 Rs Convertables of that year. Sorry I missed read the white book was Tired

 

I agree, I wouldn't start to consider anything over 1000 to be rare. 1500 is not even rare. There were roughly that many of each 15th and 20th Trans Ams. You can find them easy enough. Another way to determine rarity is to compare the production numbers of a specific to the total. There were 2050 35th Corvettes produced. That means that 1 out every 8 Corvettes made in 1988 was one of these 'rare' and 'limited' models. I would think that would make this specific vette the easiest to come by over any other combination.

 

My car is 1 of 901 Cars made for 87 lol because of ONE little detail of the car now thats rare.
Or the 7?? made of the 90 RS Convert that my brother in law owns.

 

My car is 1 of 901 Cars made for 87 lol because of ONE little detail of the car now thats rare.

For others, the 901 refers to the automatic day/night rearview mirror. Now, to clarify this.... 1987 was the first year that GM had "option packages" available on Camaros. This was "supposed" to make it easier to order cars. Each package had a grouping of options, all priced as one.

Now, it's also very obvious that Chevrolet had no clue on how to count the number of options that were actually produced on these cars. I've been through this before, so I'll try to be somewhat brief. Here are two examples -- again, figures directly from the White Book:

1987 #1
794 LT's produced.
The LT had three tire options:
RPO QDX: P195/70R14 Eagle GT (4,522 produced)
RPO QHX: P205/70R14 Blackwall (2,242 produced)
RPO QHY: P205/70R14 White Stripe (1,793 produced)

Adding them up equals 8,557 Camaros with tires exclusively made for the LT. Something is wrong here. Where did the 794 figure come from? It doesn't take much brainpower to see that it is wrong. There were 8,557 LT's produced, pure and simple.

1987 #2
Now let's move to options. Let's examine air conditioning. The White Books states 14,743 units had A/C (RPO C60). Seems kind of low considering a total production of 137,760. To get a feel for this number, let's compare percentages of Camaros with A/C for 1985, thru 1989 (A/C / Total / Percentage):

1985
146,381 / 180,018 or 81 percent with A/C

1986
167,602 / 192,219 or 87 percent with A/C

1987
14,743 / 137,760 or 11 percent with A/C

1988
88,431 / 96,275 or 92 percent with A/C

1989
104,642 / 110,739 or 94 percent with A/C

Can you see where I'm going with this? It's obvious the 1987 figure of 14,743 is grossly in error. In 1987, A/C was included in most option packages and Chevrolet had no idea how to count these. Therefore, I can only surmise they initially attempted to count units included in the packages and gave up. This would account for the extremely low figures seen for most options. And it should be noted that there are no production figures for the option packages themselves!! (I wonder why??)

The same scenario holds true for all options included in these packages, including the automatic day/night mirror. There were definitely more than 901 units produced but your guess is as good as mine as to how many. BTW, the automatic mirror was part of Option Package #3 (RPO 1SC). Examine some of the other optional equipment production figures. They are all low compared to years previous and years succeeding 1987.

Or the 7?? made of the 90 RS Convert that my brother in law owns.

729 to be exact. Yes, this is a low number. Camaro convertibles (all years) are low, especially 1987 and 1990. The difference is the total production for these years.

1987
137,760 Total
263 Sport Coupe Convertibles - Less than one percent!
744 Z28 Convertibles (I own one!!) - One percent!

1990
34,986 Total
729 RS Convertibles - Two percent!
1,294 Z28 Convertibles - Four percent!

Now, if I knew of a 1990 RS Convertible with a 305 TPI!!!!! This is the only RS (excluding RPO B4C in 1991 & 1992) that had the TPI as an option, but NONE were produced..... If I knew them what I know now....

Willie

 

i think mine is semi-rare, lol

 

I think mine is...common.

(and on that note, I finally went down to my uncles and got it...woo! ^_^ Now to find a digicam to take some "before" pictures and start cleaning it up :P)

 

Id like to think of mine as Semi rare. It is a Formula with auto and lo3, no t tops, no 4 way seats, no premium audio, no hatch release, jus optional leather wrapped sterring wheel, tape player, power locks n windows, ac, two tone paint scheme. But since i live in Mi its hard to see one around in better shape, even the Formula 350s r beat up, and i have only seen 2 in my area so far.

 

OK I apoplogize for this but, who the hell cares if their car is rare or not, I bought my car not on rarity but because I liked it, It would become MY car not just a numbered car in the books. If you are buying a car on an investment standpoint i would say 99% of thirdgens are NOT the way to go. I would rather have a perfect unrare car then a crappy rare one.

Yet again I am sorry but I had to say something about this.

BTW is my car rare it is an 1985 TA with a 305 TPI and 700R4, full power and fully loaded, manual lumbar seats, it also has the split rear seat in it. jk.jk

 

Me.

BTW This thread is three years old.

 

Holy Thread Revival, Batman!

 

Rare? I like my 3rd gens well done

 

oh heh...opps...that's what I get for searching for fun and posting without checking the date

 

LOL Med Rare here

 

Sorry about all that, I was in a bad mood the other night.

 

A car is only as rare as someone will buy it for.

Not many people care if yours is a little more rare in numbers because of a mirror

 

I like to think of my '83 MR MSE as rare. And also my '83 Daytona hardtop.....it WILL be restored,..............oh yes..............it WILL be restored.

 

ok, I just have a quick question. I just talked to a guy who just picked up a white 91 z28 convertible. I am told that there werent many of them made that year, but he said what makes it even more rare is that it has red leather, and there were very few of them made in 91 with red leather? He just bought the car off of the second owner, 80,000 original miles, 100% bone stock, original paint and everything, and the interior is immaculate. Willie do you know anything about these?

 

Leather in most any 3rd gen seems rare. Convertibles are rarer than others... so together I would say it is a rare combination. But don't go paying a ton more because of it!

 

There were 3,202 Z28 Verts made in 91 as for leather there is no way of really knowing how many z28 verts were made with leather.

 

its not just the leather he was talking about though, it was RED leather he said. That is still a "rare" car though.

 

There really is no way of finding out how many Red Leather cars were produced. But the Code is 732 (that is NOT the number produced) Not really its not that rare of a car. My brother in laws 90 RS V8 Vert was more rare then your friends.

 

he said that he got his information from some sort of f-body website. It is a nice car, and I think being a convertible z28 and the fact that there was little over 3000 made that its not like super rare, but its not just your common thirdgen.

 

I consider my car rare ^^, especially since ive only seen two other maros the same model (and as far as i know, their the same year as well) but i know this model really wasnt as desireable as an RS, IROC, or Z28.

 

this whole threads pretty "rare" if you ask me.

whats rare is my 85 firebird 2.8 with FORMULA hood...lmao...(swapping engine soon though)

 

Was there anybody else today, yesterday or the day before, cruising around in a 3rd gen with Four on the Floor?

A grin so wide it reached from door to door
V8 power thats the plan, oil at $55 + a barrel I dont give a d@mm

 

I don't know if mine is semi-rare, but probably at least medium well...

I wasn't really in the market when I stumbled across a 99% stock 89 Formula in decent shape with the LB9/5-speed combo, no T-Tops, and the leather wrapped steering wheel/shift ****. The interior was near mint and all it really needs is paint & decals. Once I drove it, I was hooked.

In regards to rarity, if it didn't have the LB9/5-speed and/or had T-Tops, I would have passed and would probably be 3rd Gen-less right now. I've found it to be a really fun car. I know there are others with these options out there, but you don't see many. Most people are surprised just to see a manual shifter sticking out of the console.

I've got way too many projects and need to thin the heard but I think I'll hang onto this one, even if it means turning it into a daily driver.

Derek: I'll look for you if I'm ever cruising through Redford. BTW... my car is solid white on grey and also looks a little beat up on the outside right now!

 

saw my first 82 pace car finally, all original nice,

hard to find much of anything around here out in cornfields no where IL

about the only rare things oyu see here are dead animals on the street, and thats as bloody rare as you get, heh

 

My car is one of those "commen car, rare color" situations. Golden Yellow 87 IROC-Z. 3,052 yellow camaros built in 87. So its hard to say how many were IROCs.

Jeremy

 

How about a 89 FORMULA 350 W/ factory SLP set up, headers, cold air box, and lexan T-tops. Does anyone know about these cars? Or how many were made, it has some wierd headers on it and some kind of cold air box that is actually sort of square? Just currious about the set up. Any help would be appreciated.