I Found A Car
06-17-2002, 07:13 PM
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Take a look do you think it is a good deal?
I found it on Ebay, it has everything i want, except i think it will end up to expensive for me to buy. But i'll see. He says it is very rare but i don't think it is.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1837290890
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06-19-2002, 02:41 PM
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1987 Iroc-z Total Produced (RPO B4Z) 38,889
LB9 5.0 Tuned Port Injection 305ci 190hp F Total Produced 28,370
Man 77mm 5 Speed* Total Produced so small unknown
1987 Factory Option RPO (Regular Production Order) Numbers & Costs
Your RPO's can be found on a decal inside the center glovebox
RPO # Description Quantity Cost RPO # Description Quantity Cost
1FP87
Camaro Z28 Sport Coupe, V8 52,863 $13,233.00
N33 Tilt Steering Column 8,862 n/a
1FP87
Camaro Z28 Sport Coupe Conv 744 17632.00
PE1 Wheels, Aluminum, Berlinetta 4,653 215.00
AG9 Power Seat, Driver Side 1,385 n/a QDX Tires, P195/70R14 Eagle GT 4,522 90.00
AM9 Seat Back, Split Folding Rear 36,864 50.00 QDZ Tires, P245/50R16 Blackwall 38,889 nc
AU3 Power Door Locks 8,597 145.00 QHX Tires, P205/70R14 Blackwall 2,242 nc
A01 Tinted Glass, All Windows 20,599 120.00 QHY Tires, P205/70R14 White Stripe 1,793 76.00
A31 Power Windows 6,509 n/a QYH Tires, P215/65R15 White Letter 42,058 102.00
A90 Power Hatch Release 8,413 n/a QYZ Tires, P215/65R15 Blackwall 48,256 -102.00
BS1 Quiet Sound Group 10,758 82.00 TR9 Lighting, Auxiallry 7,991 n/a
B2L Engine, 350ci, 220hpV8/IROC 12,105 1,045.00 TT4 Headlamps, Halogen (4) 5,819 n/a
B4E LT Package 794 n/a UA1 Battery, Heavy Duty 21,099 26.00
B4Z IROC Sport Equipment Pkg. 38,889 n/a UL5 Radio, Delete 4,863 n/a
B34 Floor Mats, Front 8,792 n/a UL6 Radio,AM with Clock 179 n/a
B35 Floor Mats, Rear 8,790 n/a UM6 Radio, Stereo,Tape,Clock, s/s,eq 17,696 n/a
B48 Luggage Compartment Trim 25,943 164.00 UM7 Radio, Stereo,Clock, s/s,eq 5,966 n/a
B84 Moldings, Body Side 22,309 60.00 UU8 Radio, Stereo,Delco Bose 8,517 n/a
B91 Moldings, Door Edge, Black 19,065 15.00 UX1 Radio,Stereo,Cassette,Clock, s/s,eq 8,160 n/a
CC1 Roof Panels, Removable Glass 59,600 866.00 U21 Gage Package 33,252 149.00
CD4 Windshield Wipers, Intermit 8,838 n/a U75 Antenna, Power 28,327 70.00
C49 Defogger, Rear Window 86,146 145.00 YF5 Emission Equipment 14,705 99.00
C60 Air Conditioning 14,743 775.00 1SA Sport Coupe Package 1 nc
DD8 Mirror, Inside Rearview Auto 901 n/a 1SB Sport Coupe Package 2 1,212.00
DE1 Louvers, Rear Window 9,487 210.00 1SC Sport Coupe Package 3 1,628
DG7 Mirrors, Electric Twin Remote 1,861 n/a 1SD Sport Coupe Package 4 2,126.00
DK6 Console, Roof 3,366 n/a 1SA LT Package 1 1,522.00
D27 Cover, Locking Rear Storage 9,414 80.00 1SB LT Package 2 1,938.00
D42 Cover, Rear Comp. Cargo 4,913 n/a 1SC LT Package 3 2,387.00
D80 Spoiler 25,925 69.00 1SD LT Package 4 2,858.00
G80 Rear Axle, Limited Slip 40,823 100.00 1SA Z28 Package 1 nc
G92 Rear Axle, Performance Ratio 10,533 21.00 1SB Z28 Package 2 1,999.00
J65 Brakes, Power F&R Disc 23,874 179.00 1SC Z28 Package 3, w RPO D42 2,539.00
KC4 Cooler, Engine Oil, IROC only 23,882 110.00 1SC Z28 Package 3, w/o RPO D42 2,470.00
K34 Speed Control, with Resume 4,913 n/a 1SA IROC Package 1 699.00
LB9 Engine, 305ci, 190hp, V8 28,370 745.00 1SB IROC Package 2 2,409.00
LG4 Engine, 305ci, 155hp, V8 68,293 750.00 1SC IROC Package 3, w RPO D42 3,273.00
MX0 Transmission, Auto with OD 115,109 490.00 1SC IROC Package 3, w/o RPO D42 3,204.00
1987 IROC-Z Key Points of Interest ~To distinguish a 1987 IROC-Z on the street, they had a third brake light on the rear spoiler. They had the PE1 Aluminum Wheels. Also, the double stripe just above the ground effects had the black stripe on the bottom. The IROC-Z door emblems were towards the front of the door under the side mirror. A convertible was available in 1987 for the first time since 1969. The 220 HP 5.7 Liter 350ci engine was available in 1987 only with an automatic transmission. The 5.7L was not available in the convertible model Leather was available for the interior beginning in 1987 The 5.7 was not visually distinguishable from the 5.0. A few things can be used to distinguish a 5.7 TPI from a 5.0 TPI (other than badges, which are often changed to sell a 5.0 as a 5.7). All 5.7's came with the square shifter ****, all other Camaro's came with the round ****. All 5.7's had automatic transmissions and rear disc brakes. the eighth digit of the VIN is an 8 for 5.7 350 TPI. The service parts identification list in the center console glovebox will list the code B2L for a 5.7 350 or LB9 for 5.0 305. the under hood sticker should list the motor as a 5.7 liter rather than a 5.0 liter. All TPI 350's came with a tach that had yellow at 5000 and red at 5500. The 190 horsepower 305 was available with the 5-speed manual transmission or the automatic. You also could only get a 215 HP motor if you ordered a hardtop/five speed/ and G92 axle package. The reason for the 25 horsepower increase was the better cam, and it is essentially the same 305 that was available in 1985. In 1987, Chevrolet V8 motors switched to the Hydraulic Roller Camshafts as opposed to the Flat Tappet style used in 1986 and 1985. This caused an increase of 5 HP and a 3.5% increase in fuel economy. In 1987, the HEI ignition system was introduced replacing the unitized system of previous years. 1987 was the last year that a carburated engine could be had. Beginning in 1988, all models were fuel injected. Up to now all Camaro's were produced at either the Norwood, Ohio plant (the original Camaro plant)or the Van Nuys, California plant. 1987 was the last year for Camaro production at the Norwood, Ohio plant. Note: The 350 5.7L was available with the 5 speed manual transmission as RPO 1LE beginning late in 1986 and through the 1990 model year. Chevrolet has no record of just how many were made. They were essentially hidden from the public. They had the A/C delete, radio delete and no power options as well as the same options as the 1LE cars everyone knows about (no fog lights, baffled gas tank, larger brakes). The car could only be ordered and very few people new about it and therefore very few were made. The dealer actually had to contact the manufacturer to obtain instructions on how to order this car because it was not ordered using the normal ordering procedures. This ordering secrecy was the main reason that very few were made. The car was offered as a model that more closely resembled the cars raced under the IROC racing series. I personally have never seen one of these cars nor have I met anyone who owns one of these cars. This information comes from two published sources from my library of information on these cars. It is repeated here for your information. I would be very wary of someone claiming that they have a car that is a 1LE with a 5 speed. Anyone who does have one of these cars, knows what they have and has the documentation on it. If you don't see documentation, then it probabl
LB9 5.0 Tuned Port Injection 305ci 190hp F Total Produced 28,370
Man 77mm 5 Speed* Total Produced so small unknown
1987 Factory Option RPO (Regular Production Order) Numbers & Costs
Your RPO's can be found on a decal inside the center glovebox
RPO # Description Quantity Cost RPO # Description Quantity Cost
1FP87
Camaro Z28 Sport Coupe, V8 52,863 $13,233.00
N33 Tilt Steering Column 8,862 n/a
1FP87
Camaro Z28 Sport Coupe Conv 744 17632.00
PE1 Wheels, Aluminum, Berlinetta 4,653 215.00
AG9 Power Seat, Driver Side 1,385 n/a QDX Tires, P195/70R14 Eagle GT 4,522 90.00
AM9 Seat Back, Split Folding Rear 36,864 50.00 QDZ Tires, P245/50R16 Blackwall 38,889 nc
AU3 Power Door Locks 8,597 145.00 QHX Tires, P205/70R14 Blackwall 2,242 nc
A01 Tinted Glass, All Windows 20,599 120.00 QHY Tires, P205/70R14 White Stripe 1,793 76.00
A31 Power Windows 6,509 n/a QYH Tires, P215/65R15 White Letter 42,058 102.00
A90 Power Hatch Release 8,413 n/a QYZ Tires, P215/65R15 Blackwall 48,256 -102.00
BS1 Quiet Sound Group 10,758 82.00 TR9 Lighting, Auxiallry 7,991 n/a
B2L Engine, 350ci, 220hpV8/IROC 12,105 1,045.00 TT4 Headlamps, Halogen (4) 5,819 n/a
B4E LT Package 794 n/a UA1 Battery, Heavy Duty 21,099 26.00
B4Z IROC Sport Equipment Pkg. 38,889 n/a UL5 Radio, Delete 4,863 n/a
B34 Floor Mats, Front 8,792 n/a UL6 Radio,AM with Clock 179 n/a
B35 Floor Mats, Rear 8,790 n/a UM6 Radio, Stereo,Tape,Clock, s/s,eq 17,696 n/a
B48 Luggage Compartment Trim 25,943 164.00 UM7 Radio, Stereo,Clock, s/s,eq 5,966 n/a
B84 Moldings, Body Side 22,309 60.00 UU8 Radio, Stereo,Delco Bose 8,517 n/a
B91 Moldings, Door Edge, Black 19,065 15.00 UX1 Radio,Stereo,Cassette,Clock, s/s,eq 8,160 n/a
CC1 Roof Panels, Removable Glass 59,600 866.00 U21 Gage Package 33,252 149.00
CD4 Windshield Wipers, Intermit 8,838 n/a U75 Antenna, Power 28,327 70.00
C49 Defogger, Rear Window 86,146 145.00 YF5 Emission Equipment 14,705 99.00
C60 Air Conditioning 14,743 775.00 1SA Sport Coupe Package 1 nc
DD8 Mirror, Inside Rearview Auto 901 n/a 1SB Sport Coupe Package 2 1,212.00
DE1 Louvers, Rear Window 9,487 210.00 1SC Sport Coupe Package 3 1,628
DG7 Mirrors, Electric Twin Remote 1,861 n/a 1SD Sport Coupe Package 4 2,126.00
DK6 Console, Roof 3,366 n/a 1SA LT Package 1 1,522.00
D27 Cover, Locking Rear Storage 9,414 80.00 1SB LT Package 2 1,938.00
D42 Cover, Rear Comp. Cargo 4,913 n/a 1SC LT Package 3 2,387.00
D80 Spoiler 25,925 69.00 1SD LT Package 4 2,858.00
G80 Rear Axle, Limited Slip 40,823 100.00 1SA Z28 Package 1 nc
G92 Rear Axle, Performance Ratio 10,533 21.00 1SB Z28 Package 2 1,999.00
J65 Brakes, Power F&R Disc 23,874 179.00 1SC Z28 Package 3, w RPO D42 2,539.00
KC4 Cooler, Engine Oil, IROC only 23,882 110.00 1SC Z28 Package 3, w/o RPO D42 2,470.00
K34 Speed Control, with Resume 4,913 n/a 1SA IROC Package 1 699.00
LB9 Engine, 305ci, 190hp, V8 28,370 745.00 1SB IROC Package 2 2,409.00
LG4 Engine, 305ci, 155hp, V8 68,293 750.00 1SC IROC Package 3, w RPO D42 3,273.00
MX0 Transmission, Auto with OD 115,109 490.00 1SC IROC Package 3, w/o RPO D42 3,204.00
1987 IROC-Z Key Points of Interest ~To distinguish a 1987 IROC-Z on the street, they had a third brake light on the rear spoiler. They had the PE1 Aluminum Wheels. Also, the double stripe just above the ground effects had the black stripe on the bottom. The IROC-Z door emblems were towards the front of the door under the side mirror. A convertible was available in 1987 for the first time since 1969. The 220 HP 5.7 Liter 350ci engine was available in 1987 only with an automatic transmission. The 5.7L was not available in the convertible model Leather was available for the interior beginning in 1987 The 5.7 was not visually distinguishable from the 5.0. A few things can be used to distinguish a 5.7 TPI from a 5.0 TPI (other than badges, which are often changed to sell a 5.0 as a 5.7). All 5.7's came with the square shifter ****, all other Camaro's came with the round ****. All 5.7's had automatic transmissions and rear disc brakes. the eighth digit of the VIN is an 8 for 5.7 350 TPI. The service parts identification list in the center console glovebox will list the code B2L for a 5.7 350 or LB9 for 5.0 305. the under hood sticker should list the motor as a 5.7 liter rather than a 5.0 liter. All TPI 350's came with a tach that had yellow at 5000 and red at 5500. The 190 horsepower 305 was available with the 5-speed manual transmission or the automatic. You also could only get a 215 HP motor if you ordered a hardtop/five speed/ and G92 axle package. The reason for the 25 horsepower increase was the better cam, and it is essentially the same 305 that was available in 1985. In 1987, Chevrolet V8 motors switched to the Hydraulic Roller Camshafts as opposed to the Flat Tappet style used in 1986 and 1985. This caused an increase of 5 HP and a 3.5% increase in fuel economy. In 1987, the HEI ignition system was introduced replacing the unitized system of previous years. 1987 was the last year that a carburated engine could be had. Beginning in 1988, all models were fuel injected. Up to now all Camaro's were produced at either the Norwood, Ohio plant (the original Camaro plant)or the Van Nuys, California plant. 1987 was the last year for Camaro production at the Norwood, Ohio plant. Note: The 350 5.7L was available with the 5 speed manual transmission as RPO 1LE beginning late in 1986 and through the 1990 model year. Chevrolet has no record of just how many were made. They were essentially hidden from the public. They had the A/C delete, radio delete and no power options as well as the same options as the 1LE cars everyone knows about (no fog lights, baffled gas tank, larger brakes). The car could only be ordered and very few people new about it and therefore very few were made. The dealer actually had to contact the manufacturer to obtain instructions on how to order this car because it was not ordered using the normal ordering procedures. This ordering secrecy was the main reason that very few were made. The car was offered as a model that more closely resembled the cars raced under the IROC racing series. I personally have never seen one of these cars nor have I met anyone who owns one of these cars. This information comes from two published sources from my library of information on these cars. It is repeated here for your information. I would be very wary of someone claiming that they have a car that is a 1LE with a 5 speed. Anyone who does have one of these cars, knows what they have and has the documentation on it. If you don't see documentation, then it probabl
06-19-2002, 03:52 PM
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Actually there are about 6,500 87 IROC's with 5-speeds since there were 22,651 camaros with 5-speeds that year. 28% of all of the camaros were IROC's .28 times 22,651 = about 6500.
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Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
ToFastTooCare,
did you subtract the 350 cars produced that year? All of them had the automatics, that would up your production #.
Not to mention that it seems like the LG4 and the V6 Cars got most of the Manual transmissions. I have seen more of those than the TPI cars with it...
I honesly don't know I am just guessing here...
John
did you subtract the 350 cars produced that year? All of them had the automatics, that would up your production #.
Not to mention that it seems like the LG4 and the V6 Cars got most of the Manual transmissions. I have seen more of those than the TPI cars with it...
I honesly don't know I am just guessing here...
John
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I Found a car that is closer to me. It is an 88 305 5-speed Red with grey interior, t-tops 149k, paint is good. It has minor surface rust no modifications and has never been in an accident. t-tops don't leak and the doors don't sag. I am going to look at it on saturday. He wants $2700 for it. i think it is worth 2,400-2,600, but i have not looked at it. What does everyone think about the car and the price?
06-26-2002, 07:29 AM
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Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
sounds about right... Considering that If I bought an 3rd gen F-body with 50K or 150K I would still rebuild the engine within a few years anyway.
I would do it if its in as good of shape as you say.
I bought my second Formula for 2K, it has minimal rust, a couple little issues, but all in all appears to be a solid car. Right lower door dented verry slightly. needs a new interior. and a good go through...
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I would do it if its in as good of shape as you say.
I bought my second Formula for 2K, it has minimal rust, a couple little issues, but all in all appears to be a solid car. Right lower door dented verry slightly. needs a new interior. and a good go through...
John
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