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Old 11-18-2011 | 12:07 AM
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I got my FX-R projectors and Philips 85122+ bulbs in today from TRS and I'm ready to start my project. Finally. Here's what I've been working on in AutoCAD for the past three months. First is output of ONE projector and bulb. Projector is setup about 125ft. from the wall. Crazy. Second pic is a screenshot of AutoCAD. I'm ready for comments!
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Old 11-18-2011 | 12:57 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

thats gonna be a bright setup, definitely digging the the eyebrowish look. nice work, what is it made out of, the stock lightbox?
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:07 PM
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Iv been thinking of something like that, I love the idea. Can't wait to see more pics!
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:44 PM
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It's gonna be vacuum formed Lexan .093 thickness for the lens covers and the rest will be Optix brand polycarbonate about 1/4" thickness. Thanks for the encouraging words!
Old 11-18-2011 | 11:15 PM
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Pic one: FX-R projector
Pic two: whole pass side pop-up headlamp assembly
Pic three: shows my current Mini D2S projectors and the custom lens I made
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Old 11-18-2011 | 11:18 PM
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did you use the 15% off code at TRS?
Old 11-18-2011 | 11:19 PM
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I had to resize these two.
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did you use the 15% off code at TRS?
It wouldn't work. I used the free ups ground code for return customers instead.
Old 11-19-2011 | 04:53 PM
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Update:
Got the rear support done, and the projector mount almost done. It still need holes for the adjusters. Pics:













More updates when they come!
Old 11-19-2011 | 06:51 PM
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So I got the one side's mounting almost finished. I still need one bracket for the innermost radiator support mounting point.



Horizontal adjustment:


Vertical adjustment (top) and pivot (bottom):


This shows the smallest gap I could have to get the D2S connector on and off the bulb. The projector sat too far forward so I cut the back out of the support.


Starting point:


Almost finished. This is where I am stopping tonight:
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This looks interesting, subscribed.
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Polly Motorsports also has pop-ups now.

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2538/968387.jpg
Old 11-21-2011 | 10:39 AM
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UPDATE:

Night before last when getting output shots of it on the car, my new 5five ballast died. I emailed the guys over at TRS and I'm waiting for their response. In the meantime I'm using my old DDM 55w ballast. Anyway here are a few shots on the car. Third pic is a comparison of glare above the cutoff. No difference.
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Old 11-21-2011 | 10:42 AM
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MORE:

These show color flicker and high beam. Great purple to blue that the camera doesn't capture, and yes, that is the real difference in high beam performance.
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Old 11-21-2011 | 10:44 AM
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MORE:

Comparison on the garage door (wall shot).
The first is the new FX-R and the second is the old Mini D2S.
Again this is really how they look in person. No editing.
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Matt from TRS just emailed me back saying he will replace the ballast at no cost, and even pay for the shipping. That's customer service right there. Top notch. Hat's off to you, Matt.
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TRS is a great company. Customer service is top notch.
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They really are. I'm a little worried now about my other 5five ballast. :/
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I won't be working on this any more until after thanksgiving. Going out of town for the weekend so it will be a week before I can get back to this project. Hate being away from my car that long haha.
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Subscribing! I've been searching for ways all year and emailing TRS just trying to think of how I want to run a projector set-up and if I want to do popup delete or not. Can't wait for your finished product.
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Thanks. It's been a fairly easy project so far. I somehow got lucky and the rotation was spot on. Haha. The way I'm making these they are bolt on and have full adjustment. Vertical horizontal and rotation.
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Looks really awesome! I just love the idea of projectors on these cars. Especially to delete the pop-ups. lol

Have you seen Blackenedbirds thread on TGO about his deletes? I took alot of his ideas when I went to sketching out what I might do.
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I don't think I've seen that. Do you have a link? I'd like to take a look!

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First page is his first mold, second page is his current one which I really like

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...projector.html

When and if I build a setup like this, definatley will be going with Morimoto Minis.
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I've seen this before great great work there.
Also if you go with minis don't get the D2S version. Get the H1. Trust me lol
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Off topic, my trip to Ft. Worth from Shreveport, the 2010 Camaro RS/SS A6 averaged 25.4 mpg with the cruise set on the speed limit the whole way.

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Have you seen Blackenedbirds thread on TGO about his deletes? I took alot of his ideas when I went to sketching out what I might do.
I have a thread on that? Really?

Actually, I hate pop-up deletes. Takes away from part of what stands out about our cars. I do wish they came up lower, only about halfway. But not full pop-up deletes.
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search member deadbird , his only come up halfway and use the headlights from a 4th gen i believe.
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Used the 4th gen headlights?
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sorry camaro 4th gens
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...d-opinion.html
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Ahh okay. That had me a little confused. I am not a big fan of the lazy eye mod. I do agree with what people say about the pop ups are what make a firebird a firebird. I still like the challenge of deletes that are made to look like they were put there from the factory. That's a tall order to fill but I feel like I'm gonna end up with something that looks very good on the car.
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sorry, meant customblackbird
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Originally Posted by BlackenedBird
I have a thread on that? Really?

Actually, I hate pop-up deletes. Takes away from part of what stands out about our cars. I do wish they came up lower, only about halfway. But not full pop-up deletes.
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Got some updates. I'm using my phone and horrible signal because the internet has been down all week. I'm using the original pop up lids and black shrouds. All I have to do is mount them and I'll pretty much be finished. I'll try to get some pictures uploaded tomorrow. I'll have to use my phone to upload them to Facebook and them link them. I'll say this for now. They look sick on the car. And the FX-R projectors at 50w are overkill for city driving but on the backroads it is good to have. Stay tuned for some pictures.
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The only pop-up deletes that I like is the way Polly motor sports did there T/A.
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my buddy has these on his vette. personally i wouldnt have spent about $1k on these things (and not even finished) but to each their own. i call it a transformer

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Got some updates. I'm using my phone and horrible signal because the internet has been down all week. I'm using the original pop up lids and black shrouds. All I have to do is mount them and I'll pretty much be finished. I'll try to get some pictures uploaded tomorrow. I'll have to use my phone to upload them to Facebook and them link them. I'll say this for now. They look sick on the car. And the FX-R projectors at 50w are overkill for city driving but on the backroads it is good to have. Stay tuned for some pictures.
Cannot wait to see the finished product! My projector build will be starting in a few weeks so expect lots of questions from me because I'm probably going to be modeling mine after yours. Lol
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So far I really like it, especially because no new cover has to be made. How much of the projector Actually shows through the opening. Can't wait to see mounted pics and lighted surface.
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So far I really like it, especially because no new cover has to be made. How much of the projector Actually shows through the opening. Can't wait to see mounted pics and lighted surface.
Probably not enough to be legal. There are some pretty specific rules that vary state to state as well as federal regulations to consider.

The Poly Motorsports pop-ups avoid this by using a clear cover.
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I'm uploading a walk around video at the moment that shows them on the car and finished. The lids don't block any light whatsoever and they look stock for the most part. I should have a link up at the least by the end of today.
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If it all possible can you snap some pics of everything all assembled on the car?
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In a couple days I should have some assembly pics to put up.
Here's the link for the walk around video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27TD...e_gdata_player
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

Originally Posted by sjgrimsley
In a couple days I should have some assembly pics to put up.
Here's the link for the walk around video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27TD...e_gdata_player

From that video I've got a few things to say

-Your car looks absolutley amazing and I love the rims
-That's one great sounding idle
-I like the combo of the 85-90 taillights with the 82-84 centerpiece, never seen that done before
-The color flicker is great with those projectors, what K did you go with?
-Seeing this video has made me 100% sure I want to literally imitate this projector set up, I love the fact how you were able to keep the stock headlight covers, looks totally OEM with the lights off
-Would you reccomend the FXR's over the Minis for any reason?
-What did you have to do for wiring in order to accomodate the D2S's?

Expect a PM from me in the near future with tons of annoying questions on any particular questions I may have about this setup. Lol

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Old 12-11-2011 | 11:14 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

Well first of all this made my day. I've never had someone so enthralled with my car and it feels great lol.
These are Philips 85122+ 4300k at 50w.
Having now used both the FX-R and the Mini D2S I recommend these for every reason imaginable.
Low beam power and ground goes to the ballast input. The high beam switch on the steering column has a jumper wire to keep constant power to the low side while high beam is activated. High beam power goes to the solenoids on the projectors.

Don't mind answering pm's at all man. I had many questions thru all this but had them answered by constant reading thru this and the hidplanet forum. Ask away bud! Haha.
Old 12-12-2011 | 02:19 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

Originally Posted by sjgrimsley
Well first of all this made my day. I've never had someone so enthralled with my car and it feels great lol.
These are Philips 85122+ 4300k at 50w.
Having now used both the FX-R and the Mini D2S I recommend these for every reason imaginable.
Low beam power and ground goes to the ballast input. The high beam switch on the steering column has a jumper wire to keep constant power to the low side while high beam is activated. High beam power goes to the solenoids on the projectors.

Don't mind answering pm's at all man. I had many questions thru all this but had them answered by constant reading thru this and the hidplanet forum. Ask away bud! Haha.

Haha, you are very welcome. It's not all the time you see something like this done so well, and retain such a stock apperance. I'm thinking I'll shell out the extra 20 dollars or so for the FX-Rs if you really think they're worth it. One problem I saw with the mini's is that they didn't appear to seal all the way, whereas the FX-R looks like a totally enclosed unit. The only thing that worried me was that they are D2S. But that shouldn't really be a problem. I love hidplanet, lots of great info there. I'll probably start my retrofit in two-three weeks. Can't wait.
Old 12-12-2011 | 03:19 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

Don't know how this was done, but a pretty slick factory look to this install.
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Old 12-12-2011 | 03:24 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

Originally Posted by 85FBTranam
Don't know how this was done, but a pretty slick factory look to this install.
I've seen that done on a few differernt birds here. What they essentially do is put a smaller size headlight, often applications intended for foglights, behind the headlight cover trim piece. Some wire it up so there are two differernt lights for hi/low. Cool concept but I LOVE the idea of having real HID projectors in the space instead.
Old 12-12-2011 | 03:29 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

Originally Posted by 85FBTranam
Don't know how this was done, but a pretty slick factory look to this install.
That to me doesn't look factory because it looks like there are lights there instead of it being black like mine is. And only in certain light can you see the projector lenses.
Old 12-12-2011 | 03:37 PM
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Re: Pop-up deletes that look good

That's what I love about this thread, the totally stock apperance


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