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Old 02-06-2012, 12:19 PM
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Looking good

Also nice Z06

Or for our Canadian members Zed06
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Thanks! I'm hoping to try to fire it off this weekend. Fuel system holds 90 psi with no leaks.... I set the pressure to 60 static to start with, should give me some room to grow.

The z06 is a 2002 that I've had since new, got a forged heads/cam/exhaust ls3 in it... The daily beater.
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Close to firing it off. Engine primed, fuel system checked, coolant filled.

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Fire it off brother!! Can't wait to here about it man. Good luck
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What a rats nest! You have done an amazing job of shoe horning a ton of stuff into that engine bay. Good luck with the first, in this car, start!
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http://youtu.be/so4i9Dte6vo
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Good job the car sounds good! very nice keeping everything under a stock hood.

hopefully this year I myself will have a startup video.
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Thanks!

Got a few issues.

1. Coolant leak between head and block on rear drivers side. Going to try a gm stop leak tab, that should take care of it... Not a gusher, just an annoyance.

2. Pretty good oil leak. I think it's the oil return to the tank, I left that one fitting loose but I'll have to see if there is anything else leaks once that is fixed.

3. Key doesn't turn engine over. Think I didn't get the vats right once I yanked the stock computer. Should be easy to figure out.

4. Trans has no forward or reverse gears. I think its low on fluid, i changed pans and refilled it without running the trans, probably needs another quart or two while running.

5. Yanked drivers valve cover to set lash on a couple rockers while hot (al heads and block, wanted to set hot and see what the cold measurement was so i could always set them cold) and two plug wires broke in the spark plug boot when pulled them off. Need new wires.

All said, i see how to get there from here and i think its possible.
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All issues aside, congrats on getting it started up and "finished" lol Almost there, just gotta work out the quirks as with any build.

Ditto on the trans fill. I did mine cold and when started up, i had no gears. Took alot more fluid til it started working.
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x2 on the trans. did the same thing when i swapped 700r4s in my truck. took another 3 quarts before it moved.
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Nice build. Have to see it run sometime.
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Thanks guys! Looked into the vats a bit more, I'm missing a 5v regulated voltage with some series resistance from the stock ECM. I wasn't going to mess with that, so I grounded the black with yellow stripe wire going to the starter enable relay instead and it works!

The oil leak looks largely limited to the one hose fitting that was loose, but only one way to find out.

I'm relieved to hear that I'm probably right about the transmission.

New plug wires and time to try again!

Fwiw i set the lash to .026" hot and it shrunk to .008-.009" cold.... BIG difference!
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Just read the whole this.

All I can say is WOW! Would love to see this car in person someday.
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Idle clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39icT...e_gdata_player

Gm seal tabs in the radiator, two more quarts of trans fluid. Car moves now, might need a bit more fluid. Oil leak looks to be fixed, time will tell.
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Awesome!
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Anymore updates on this? Great looking build.
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Had kid #2 2/24, been pretty tired since!

Car is a little loud, so I added some mufflers to it... that I could easily remove once I'm out of the neighborhood.













Pretty ugly, but they work. I took it out and made maybe 1/2-1 psi of boost, and uhoh... made some memories though.


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Pleasure meeting you tonight, thats one radical ride man, loud too!
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What did you do to it? More video!
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Pleasure meeting you tonight, thats one radical ride man, loud too!
Good to meet you too! That camaro you have is seriously clean!

I'm hoping to dyno the thing soon, but I'll just have to see how it works out with the new kid to see when I'll get time.
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What did you do to it? More video!
Just getting some street miles on it.

This dry sump is a different animal, the full procedure is different, get it wrong and it pukes oil until it gets to a happy level. Also when you stop the engine, the oil backfills the pan and it finds any and all leak points. In going to have to yank the pan back off and glue it to the block. Not excited about that.
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Yamabond 4. Made by, you guessed it, Yamaha. Great for aluminum to aluminum surfaces, oil, heat, vibration resistant, and it sets in an hour (or less, depending). Similar to RTV.

I use it on the engine cases for my dirt bikes, stuff is gold.
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Yamabond 4. Made by, you guessed it, Yamaha. Great for aluminum to aluminum surfaces, oil, heat, vibration resistant, and it sets in an hour (or less, depending). Similar to RTV.

I use it on the engine cases for my dirt bikes, stuff is gold.
buddy of mine works at a dealer and im pretty sure thats what he uses too.

on the tranny cooler not working, a friend of mine has his mounted in the bed of an s10 with a fan on it. running with the bed cover closed in the florida heat, it runs fine. he does have the bed floor hole-sawed-out below the cooler. its mounted at about a 45 degree angle.

ive also seen them done mounted on an angle behind the rearend, but all in trucks or cars with fuel cells. stock tank might hinder that. but in reality, you still might be ok where you have it mounted.

how did the steering effort turn out? lot of work in here that is appreciated.
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Some more updates.... got the car out last friday, turned the timing down to 18 degrees total and we tuned the A/F on the highway to 10.5-10.8:1... should be REAL conservative.

Got some pics of the car:







The car made 8-8.5 psi on the highway in high gear from a 50 roll until I got out of it, around 6k rpm. It held the power in that gear on the 345/19 nitto drag radials, but wouldn't hold it in low gear... it just blew the tires off.

The acceleration that I logged was between .7-.75 G for all of high gear until I let out.

Here's a pic of the plug a couple days later. You can't read the fuel off of it, but note the lack of a timing mark on the strap. I bet I pick up another 150 rwhp from wherever I'm at now once I put some timing in it.




Get the car back, next day run the valves, they were slightly loose but not bad. Set them all at .010" since it was a bit warmer. Go to turn the car around so I can work on the oilpan, and the brakes die......

I find this:






Pretty awesome huh, the male -3 thread on the banjo fitting adapter broke off. Not sure how that happened.....
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I had an older NGK A/F meter laying around, I decided to see if it would fit in the formula cowl portion of the hood. Like a glove!



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on the tranny cooler not working, a friend of mine has his mounted in the bed of an s10 with a fan on it. running with the bed cover closed in the florida heat, it runs fine. he does have the bed floor hole-sawed-out below the cooler. its mounted at about a 45 degree angle.

ive also seen them done mounted on an angle behind the rearend, but all in trucks or cars with fuel cells. stock tank might hinder that. but in reality, you still might be ok where you have it mounted.
The highest temp I saw after some pulls was 185 degrees, about what the temp sensor on the trans cooler turns the fan on, so I feel pretty good about that.

I got the stock chin spoiler fabbed onto the radiator core support, now when I'm rolling it holds the engine coolant temperature down nicely.

how did the steering effort turn out? lot of work in here that is appreciated.
It's ok, you can definately feel the extra effort at very slow speeds with the full width front tires.

I also have what I think is a bit too much angle in one of the ujoints, you can feel it bind slightly when turning the wheel.

When you're moving the effort isn't too bad.
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from the pic of the plug, i see that there may be too much timing in it. but where who knows if you didnt cut it clean after a wide open pull. could be too much at wot, cruise or at idle. youve got some fuel burnt off the base, the strap is not "wet". it does no good unless you take a grinder and cut the threads off to see way down in the porcelin, but any idle time with color them up fast. idle is only the tip of the porcelin, could probably go a touch leaner there by looking at it. assuming you didnt cut it off clean and pull the plug out.

its going to need those 315's on it real soon.
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Very nice project! What all inner fender mods did you have to do in order to tuck the 345's?
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Very nice project! What all inner fender mods did you have to do in order to tuck the 345's?

Thanks! I installed the wolfe 4th gen minitub kit in the car, LOTS of room now.
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from the pic of the plug, i see that there may be too much timing in it. but where who knows if you didnt cut it clean after a wide open pull. could be too much at wot, cruise or at idle. youve got some fuel burnt off the base, the strap is not "wet". it does no good unless you take a grinder and cut the threads off to see way down in the porcelin, but any idle time with color them up fast. idle is only the tip of the porcelin, could probably go a touch leaner there by looking at it. assuming you didnt cut it off clean and pull the plug out.

its going to need those 315's on it real soon.
I had cleaned off that plug looking for the spot on the strap where the metal annealed... but I didn't see one.

Here's a pic pre-cleaning. As far as fueling, i agree with you. This pic is 20 miles of cruising after the WOT pulls.

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i like your socket!
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i like your socket!
When you buy $2k turbo headers and they look like this:



then you have to grind on them for a real long time and in addition grind the OD of a socket to make it work...



Grinding stainless is a real PITA when it work hardens as you go....
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The header quality is a bit disappointing... Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like the flanges were CNC plasma cut? At least that's how they look in the first pic. The plasma cut edge will actually rust if it's not cleaned up

Great job on the build though!
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I first clicked on this thread thinking ok here we go. Another dreamer. It didn't take me long to see your work and realize sh#$ he is serious. Excellent work and excellent documentation/pictures my friend. Great family also you are a lucky man.
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Thanks guys!

Been a while, got the oil leak mostly fixed. The pan doesn't leak anymore, but now that I have that fixed I can see that the valvecovers do. I'm guessing that the spring oiling mod that I did to the rockers puts a lot more oil up there.

Here's a datalog from a pull I made the other night:




a pretty sustained ~.7G from a top gear highway roll on at ~50 mph isn't too shabby, for 8 psi.
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WOW AWESOME BUILD
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Who drove their firebird to work today?

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Awesome car. I love that you're DDing it. Whens the highway video coming out?
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I really wanna know what kind of power its putting down, or atleast a quarter mile run! Have you raced that scooby yet? lol
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Not the highway vid you probably wanted, but it's something for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NdhH...e_gdata_player
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sounds good. but im going to go out on a limb..and say.
we would like to see you put your foot into it for just a sec or two..

loved getting onto the freeway on ramp. for a sort trip to the track!

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A little better....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8wftIG7Wk

I'll get it dynoed and then post up some track vids.
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Re: 2k hp capable street car build

Oh, I see what's going on here, he's playing hard to get
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Sounds great I love this build
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Re: 2k hp capable street car build

Car stays pretty cool when moving, but stopped it heats up.

I had a couple 11" spal pushers left over from the outlaw car, I figured I'd try them out.

I'll let you guys know if they help, but I need an alternator upgrade first.

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Transbrake time!

Pretty obvious the alternator needs more amperage.

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Re: 2k hp capable street car build

for anyone interested, a supertrapp is NOT a good turbo muffler. (duh, right?)

My fabbed muffler to keep the neighbors happy: Supertrapp and a dirt track cone


The car goes pig rich and misfires as the boost comes on with the supertrapp, it's like a 2 step at 3200 rpm.


Take the supertrapp off, and you get a real nice transition into boost, a/f around 11.4:1.
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Re: 2k hp capable street car build

yeah I didnt think those mufflers would work well. Backpressure probably spiked.
Cant wait to see what numbers it makes on 8psi.... my setup is almost done and should be seeing boost in another month or so. I dont expect to be near your numbers but it should be a healthy setup on the gate spring alone, also 8psi
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wicked build brother your hardcore!
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Re: 2k hp capable street car build

Wicked setup! You've given me so many ideas

I'm getting ready to start building something at a similar power capability, but its going to be LSx based (I know I know )

I'm currently spec'ing out my front suspension and was curious as to what spring rate you went with in the front coilovers.


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