Z2EIGHT

So pretty much everybody has looked for bodykits for F-bodies and though I like the way they look with or without GFX, Shouldn't we have more options just incase we want to stand out a little?

So I am known for my great ideas, Cartoons, movies, books, videogames, and whatever else you can name a 16 year old kid might be into. Minus the books...

We have all seen the UGLY kits, and we have seen 1 or 2, we actually like. Whether those German guys or those Asian guys. WTF! Americans made the car LOL... Sorry for that little out burst...

Ok so, in short, I'm gonna design 2 kits, the camaro and firebird (Duh). Its gonna be a long process, but if everybody likes the pics maybe I'll go a step further.

Which one should I start with, Camaro or firebird? Though I own an Camaro, I think IMHO, I have more Soppurtunity with the firebird.

http://www.otp-vondracek.de/MAIN.html

So these I saw just today and look somewhat better then what I have seen, but look at that chin! I think it sticks out too much, the sides are 2 fat and the rear doesn't flow with the sides right... IMO...

What I need from you guys:

Opinions, Ideas, for you to vote, and right now I need traces of the cars, front, rear, side, top ETC.

Sorta like this: http://www.mustangmods.com/data/11289/grundle.jpg

But thats not even an F-body. Ok that would have to look like this.

http://www.stickergirl.com/images/2303.jpg fuse those together, that what I need.


So I gotta do some homework, but Leave me some stuff ideas.. Should I try it, or not... that sorta thing...

-Peace

nelapse

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Not a "creative" writer (title) lol just kidding....

camarojustin

Give it a shot, I'm interested to see what you come up with.
Start with the camaro

Z2EIGHT

I'll see, I need traces. I hope I don't have to make my own.

If you can help. Find me clean, good shots of specific angels(sp?) mentioned above.

84camz28

same here i would like to see what you can come up with for the camaro. something that flows with the 91-92 z28 wing

DillonRager

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is this what you mean? , hope it helps

Camaroguy18

it'll be interesting to see what you come up with...but personally I feel GM hit the nail on the head with the bodykit, which is why no one ever seems to like aftermarket ones

5678TA

i think you should start with firebirds.. camaros have alot more options than firebirds.. but anyway, give it a shot..

Z2EIGHT

Yea, Rager that what I mean, How come I can't click on the side one?

usamuscle892

i dont see what the big deal is with these kits. Lately, yes, lately, everytime i get on the forum someone is talking about a bodykit. Years ago rodders put spoilers or cowls on their cars and that was all they had. No one wanted to put a bodykit on their 69' Z. Why should we? And if they did anything crazy, it was done by themselves slinging lead or fiberglass. I guess its ok to have options, but it seems like this topic comes up really really often.

noahTHEpurdy

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Start with Firebirds, Camaros have the best body-kit from factory and they look even better without it!

jmoney843

Unless you have the know how or no someone to build the kit for you...all youll have is a drawing...and wasted time...and besides...leave the kits for the rice.

GodSpeedGTA

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there is plenty out there for camaros...go with the firebirds first...i think our body kits are the most bland aside from the 91-92 models. just dont go real over the top...good luck

DillonRager

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here

Gladstoneiroc

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To be honest, the only body kits for Camaro's would be: 91-92 gfx with a fiberglass hood and some reasonable spoiler, or a kit that made a plain-jane extra body panel delete option.

CharcoalBird

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The performance package the 91-92 is fine for me, i'd rather see a widebody kit or fender flares. There is a website with them, can't find them. Anyone know?

5678TA

a mild widebody kit would be nice.. nothing too dramatic.. like 2-3 inches wider or something.. FOR FIREBIRD.. preferably 82-84 because there is practically nothing left for us.. reproduction of factory kits were discontinued.. and that is all we have in terms of body kits besides the predator kit..(correct if i'm wrong)

Blackknight

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Hey Rager,

Do you have any Firebird Trans AM versions of those pics?

DillonRager

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no, sorry i searched google images (camaro sketch) for those i think but just checked firebird and trans am and came up with only a second gen firebird but i could draw any car in a sketch like that just show me a pic of what angles you want and give me a day, drawing comes very easy to me and that would be simple

Z2EIGHT

Rager, if you could do some nice firebird sketches, that would be great!

I see what you guys are saying when Kits are rice. Some tuners have kits too. Did you know that Rice and tuners are not the same thing?

Why does a kit have to make you stand out? Why can't it just make the car flow better?

It can't hurt to try!
^ Me ^ TGO!

jmoney843

I know tons of guys who are 'tuners' who drive eclipse/talons running 11s...10s... And even know the guy Ryan who owns SRO (streetracing.org) and has a SICK nsx. And if you notice...a lot of the FAST imports are kitless. Not to say that fast 'tuner' cars dont have kits. But a lot of people (even "tuners") associate body kits with...rice. Those that do put kits on their fast imports is because the car is a show car as well, most of the kitted supras, 3kGT VR4s and such. Its a different ball game than owning a 3rd gen.

I H8 WWD

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Here ya go.

http://www.americansportscardesigns....n_camaro.shtml

Z2EIGHT

Ok guys, so I started working on a side view of the CAMARO. Sorry Bird owners, you guys are gonna have to wait.

So I have a rough done, that I will clean up and show either tomorrow or maybe tonight! Sorta reminds me a of a raptor talon. so now this camaro kit project, is called:

PROJECT RAPTOR: (Corny? I know, )

The side view does no justice for the chin, which has been "sharpened".

The kit will leave your body a little lower to the ground. I am fixing it so people who have big tires can run with them on.

This pic I made shows what the kit is gonna be like. but not as low to the ground. It needs revised!!

So why ain't I posting the pic now. Because I have to go watch my bro get his butt kicked in wrestling.

DillonRager

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here ya go i can do a front too if you guys think this is good enough to work

its a dark pic because i couldnt get my scanner to work so i just had to take a pic with the camera after i drew it hope it helps and let me know if you want a front view

Stevo

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You just cant beat the styling of the 91-92 gfx on these cars...they are perfect it flows too well. People just want change and to see something different...even though its not always for the good.

Im not a "stock ****" its just they are killer awesome designs from the factory. I get a few import guys every now and then asking me where i got my body kit...its not a body kit...it came with the car.

rwdtech

i friggen hate it when people ask me if i have a body kit on my car

Lazer

I made this picture a little while ago in photoshop. It isn't much different but makes for a nice variation to the front bumper.

83Chevy__Camaro

i agree with him, these arent ****ing ricers, or imports, there classic chevy cars, leave the *** kits to the cars that are all show and no go.

dubcity

that actully might not look that bad if it was done to the right car..

CharcoalBird

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Werd.

dubcity

ok now go to that link, and look at the first product...

CharcoalBird

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There was another site that had them. I'll keep searching.

Firebat

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I would just like to see rear bumpers made. The ground efx are great on these cars, better than any other cars.

The big thing I would like to see in camaro/firebird rear bumpers is a provision or area for exhaust pipes to exit better. Kind of like how the 4th gen trans ams have their bumper.

Z2EIGHT

Rager that is awesome, I will need the front view too....

87CIZ

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I'd like the rear to come down a little further instead of sloping up so far. maybe just at the same pitch as the front. that way it wouldnt look so high in the rear from behind, and you could have a notch or a hole for the tips to come through and have flush tips. that's what i'd like or at least until i seen it that's what i THINK i'd like

Firebat

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kind of like this?

zdc590

Is that the old concept car?

I H8 WWD

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It looks like it could be the IROC-Z from Gran Turismo 4. But who knows unless he shows the front.

Otherwise...that looks *******.

Firebat

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For you history buffs, it was some kind of concept. The only thing that got carried over to production is what is now the 91-92 camaro ground efx.

Z2EIGHT

I think the 87 or 88 concept? I saw it in Gran turismo...

So you guys want the side view... well I have them done but I want to eat and play some games so I'll do it later.... don't be mad

Z2EIGHT

Okay so I didn't want to fill it all in, takes forever!!

The blue line is where I'll cut it too, is will be a tad bit lower then stock GFX!

The Wheel wells.... they should be perfectly rounded, but it's hard to do in paint and I don't want to change all the lines!! LOL I got some new ideas today, but now I am gonna work on the front fascia..... ok go head and talk about this one, but just a reminder that those are really low, I think I might shorten the skirts and the rear pieces...

niceroc

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ok imo i dont like how the gfx come into the wheel, if you were to design somehitng id try go get a hood that flows kinda liek the the sunocco hood for ls1 4th gens with a ss mixed in, but have it really match the body lines, and have a wide body kit like the **** harrell cars have on them, i would try to have the rear fenders come out at the natural body line between the c pilar and quater panel, the trick would be to try to make the car look stock but have it be differnt to the poeple who know itm but this can really make the car look fat and ulgy if done wrong, it cant taper to much into the rear, some wide tires can take care of that, the best thing to do is look at cars you really liek and try to do stuff you liek about them and incorperate it in, i got alot of pics of cars that i love and there are many parts on them you could bring in if you were doing custom body work, heres a couple
Hood
wide body
diffuser
hood/ wide body
you have to be careful with the third gen because it is so square you can just toss a roud body line in there, a lowered third gen with nice wheels is stunning so you have to remeber to keep it very clean and straight

Z2EIGHT

Yea, It's difficult to get people to like stuff when its in paint. I need to install photoshop to get cooking...

TPI TERR

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anymore pics of that blue 3rd gen??

I H8 WWD

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No offense but it looks like a 95+ silvia...I say that because a red one with a kit looking like that rolled passed me today....didnt look bad but...thats on the silvia...keep up the work though, cant expect to get it right the first time.

82 Iron Duke

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If there was some hair on that rear end I would ***** her

jmoney843

Gave it a shot really quick in illustrator...added a cowl hood too, the original hood seemed long and low or something

niceroc

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umm i had some but idk where they went, i know hes a member here and im pretty sure he has a prochaged 305 in his car
EDIT: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2496232

Z2EIGHT

Jmoney thats pretty cool... Those wheel wells bother the F out of me, I gotta change them later today...

sLoW'n'StEaDy

i have made a few kits in my days, but nothing from scratch. i just found stuff that i liked be it a honda kit, dodge kit whatver, bought it and made it fit my car. Fiberglassing is easy! after thet, just make a mold and begin mass production...

i currently have a 3" IROC style camaro hood on my fiero as well as a set of 99+ mustang side scoops that replaced my rear quarter windows, and a 99+ mustang hood scoop on the rear decklid (also on the fiero). sounds like it would be too much, but its pretty nice looking, i have had a ton of offers on the 1/4 window scoops, just havent had time to make anymore...