Fabrication Custom fabrication ideas and concepts ranging from body kits, interior work, driveline tech, and much more.

secondary power source for door poppers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-17-2004, 11:02 AM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Tricked-Out-Toy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 656
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 Z28
Engine: Lt1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.70 auburn pro 9"
secondary power source for door poppers

im not sure if anyone has asked this but here goes. i would like find out if i could use a smaller battery say one from a 12volt atv or street bike and mount it next to my existing one with the only pupose to supply power to my door poppers when my main battery fails or is disconnected( when workin on it and what not) the reason im thinkin of doin this is because ive shaved both my inside and outside door handles and dont really what to have a hidden cable, inside i have a two piece polished aluminum over the whole area where the black plastic was.
another thing to i would need to has this wire into my charging system so it stays charged. if anyone has any info on this it would be great thanks - Joshua
Old 06-17-2004, 01:23 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
TheGreatJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
Posts: 998
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
Use a Power Wheels or electric scooter battery and a big diode. That and some wire should be all you need. The diode will allow the alt. to charge the extra battery, but if the main batt. voltage drops below the secondary batt voltage, the diode will isolate the secondary battery and keep it from draining....just make sure the diode can handle the charging current.
Old 06-17-2004, 03:23 PM
  #3  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Tricked-Out-Toy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 656
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 Z28
Engine: Lt1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.70 auburn pro 9"
sounds like it might work does anyone have any idea on what size diode to get? also is a small 12volt batt going to have problems with being charger at 105amps or 140amps? ive blown up to batterys and a set of lights when a regulator in the alt went out and over charged the system. i wouldnt think this would be a problem but hey u never know. also would anyone like to draw a little wiring diagram, if its possible i would like to draw from the larger one and either manually or automaticly switch to the smaller if the main batt fails but both must be charger by the alt. thanks for the input - TOT

Last edited by Tricked-Out-Toy; 06-17-2004 at 03:25 PM.
Old 06-17-2004, 05:45 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

 
94-6spd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: W. Kentucky
Posts: 1,112
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 83 Z-28
Engine: 406
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.70
How about you just crawl through the hatch and pop the hood and jump your battery. The doors will open then. Or you could run some remote terminals like drag racers do so that you could just jump the battery from there.
Old 06-17-2004, 06:11 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
TheGreatJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
Posts: 998
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
The batteries won't charge at the full output rating of the alternator...most of that power goes to run the car and operate the accessories, plus it will have 2 batteries to charge instead of just one. If you're really worried about it, put like a 30-40 amp breaker in the charge wire to the secondary battery. I'd also go with a diode that can handle at least 50 amps. You can find big diodes at electrical supply places or online electrical stores.


When a regulator goes, the voltage in the system jumps up from 14.4 to about 17-18. That's what blows batteries....not excess current output.


The wiring is simple.....put the new battery close to the old one and ground it to the body. Put the diode (and fuse if you prefer) between the + terminals of the batteries. That way they'll both charge but the main electrical system will not drain the second battery. Wire the door poppers off the second battery only (no wiring in common with the main harness in the car) and ground to the body so that the poppers ALWAYS work off the 2nd battery. Make sure they work with the main battery disconnected, and make sure you get 14 volts to the second battery when the car is running. If you don't get 14v then the diode is probably backwards.
Old 06-19-2004, 11:01 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
onebinky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Southwest Chicago 'burbs
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Tricked-Out-Toy
sounds like it might work does anyone have any idea on what size diode to get? also is a small 12volt batt going to have problems with being charger at 105amps or 140amps? ive blown up to batterys and a set of lights when a regulator in the alt went out and over charged the system. i wouldnt think this would be a problem but hey u never know. also would anyone like to draw a little wiring diagram, if its possible i would like to draw from the larger one and either manually or automaticly switch to the smaller if the main batt fails but both must be charger by the alt. thanks for the input - TOT
The battery will only pull the amperage (flow) that it needs. You could throw it on a 3,000,000 amp charger, and as long as the voltage (pressure) doesn't exceed the battery rating it will not overcharge. If you put a dead battery on a charger and watch it with an ammeter, you'll see the battery pull a ton of juice for a while, and then taper off gradually to just a trickle. That is unless you have a short or something between the plates

Last edited by onebinky; 06-19-2004 at 11:05 PM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BRoss99
Electronics
27
12-07-2020 06:50 PM
Vintageracer
Camaros for Sale
12
01-10-2020 05:33 PM
1Aauto
Sponsored Vendors
10
04-09-2018 03:00 PM
Out-Cast
Interior Parts for Sale
2
08-23-2015 06:33 AM
BlackTopKing
Body
18
08-19-2015 12:13 PM



Quick Reply: secondary power source for door poppers



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:52 PM.