92z28camarokid

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Flame Throwers as in shooting FIRE out your exhaust (on purpose).

Im putting a flame thrower kit back on my car. I originally had it with my TPI setup, but because of some difficulty in gettin the coils hooked up I abandond it.

The setup up i got has a control box that does will interupt the coil and send power to the coils (extras) to make the spark plugs in my tail pipes work.

My car is in the process of bein converted to Carburated, I am also getting long tube headers w/o air and running no cats ( cat shells slipped over straight pipe).

Some questions I have are what is the most free flowin and best sounding mufflers that I can put on to make it true dual? That will still let the most gas come out to get the largest flames.

I already have the kit. Just need the right muffler combo to give the car power and work best with kit.

I want a good sounding exhaust that screamins mean everytime I get on it. Ive already got a flowmaster 80 series, that I love but since im going to long tubes im gettin rid of it.

Let me know wut you all think.

Drew

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I think as long as you're flirting with stupidity, you might as well get yourself some nice glasspacks and make it official.

Black_Knight

Fire coming out of your exhaust pipes isn't cool. The Fast and the Furious movies lied to you.

whatever84

It's your car do as you will, but really?

Mark.

92z28camarokid

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Glasspacks arent the sound im looking for, Im looking for a more throatier. I was thinkin flowmaster 40 series.

I wasnt going off of Fast and the Furious, I was lookin more at Gone in 60 seconds, and the whole rat rod scene.

92z28camarokid

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The kit I have is much like the kit that was shown on the tv show Trucks

Stephen

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Flame Throwers were around DECADES before that movie was even thought of!

Grants89iroc-z

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Grants89iroc-z

Whoops..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtV61stgfNY

Black_Knight

That doesn't make it cool.

Stephen

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But it wasn't invented or inspired by The Slow & the Hilarious movie....

Drew

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Black_Knight

Certainly not, but that's where many people know it from.

GeneralLC

An F430 at WOT will shoot constant flames out the tail pipe naturally. That's pretty freaking awesome.

Grants89iroc-z

lmao that emote thing is hella funny, but i dont think flames coming out is gay

it could be kinda cool

84blacktransam

I wanted to do this for well over a year for my carbed 350 84 ta. I forgot when/where I heard of the concept for the first time, but it was on a hot rod. Then when I saw the fast and furious, I was disappointed that they would put that on a r!cer. The whole idea of having excess fuel to burn sounds like the core being of a hot rod to me, haha. As soon as I get enough money again, I am going to get one. I was thinking hotlicksexhaust.com. camarokid, what kit do you have?

92z28camarokid

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I found a kit on ebay that I picked up for $35 about a year ago. It came with everything that i needed except for the coil and the plug wires. Its for single or dual and it even gave me two spark plugs. I never got it compltly hooked up, I forgot one wire and I relized that as I was pulling the unit out. But im gunna give her another shot after i get it swapped to carburated and get the longtubes. Mine is supposed to produce up to 8ft flames.

Stephen

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I've always wondered if a fuel injector could be mounted behind the muffler, to be used in a flamethrower exhaust, in FI cars!

Firebat

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Aren't flame throwers supposed to be bad for engines?

UNCLE TOM

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my only comment/suggestion is , STUPID , STUPID !!!!!

1bdbrd

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Yes but a primered 3rd gen is not and will never be in any way shape or form, comparable to any Ferrari ever made.

One thing no one has pointed out, is that with an auto you are going to have sh*t ground clearance with duals and how are you going to run it out the back? You will need to be very creative with over the axle pipes because of space or run it underneath the axle and hope for the best.

I think the idea is dumb all the way around and the $35 could have gone towards a book on why carbs are the second dumbest thing you can do to these cars (right behind flame throwers but just in front of multicolored primer).

92z28camarokid

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Yellow primer cause its cheap and im sandin it off, its got an SS hood that came primered that way. I took that pic this summer, the shop was closed until the school year started up again. This is how the car looks as of right now. Im doin all the work on it myself =), im on a very tight budget, Im workin two jobs and paying for everything that has to do with my car so it takes me some time to get it done. Ill make sure to show you how she looks after its finished, Im hopin mid Feb by the time i get the engine and paint done. The guy I have doin the exhaust is a very talented/smart guy, im sure he can figure it out no problem. Im also planning on puttin some larger rims on there which would give me a lil more ground clearence. You should go on the carb section on here and say that about carbs bein a dumb idea, im sure that plenty of ppl could prove you otherwise. Now flame throwers yah, they're dumb, ill admit it, but just cause they are dumb doesnt mean they arnt cool.

84blacktransam

1bdbrd, What's wrong with having a carb? Not all of us have the money to screw around with TPI and computer BS, let alone a fancy T-56 like yourself. My 84 came with a carbed 350 from a 79 truck. The things a beast. Its easy to work on, its easy to upgrade, and if it breaks, they're everywhere. Admittedly, you can get more power and better mileage from FI, but it comes at a price. For me, the carb gave me the most bang for my buck.

I wanted a muscle car but couldn't afford a first or a second gen. So I got my hot rodded mismatched third gen.

However, if I had a late model TPI to start out with... I wouldn't have changed over unless I were changing engines. Camarokid, seeing as how you have a 92, I would only go to a carb if you were changing engines to an older 350 or an old big block or something like that. What do you have now, a 305? Looking at the stock data, its probably worth just keeping your TPI.

EDIT: I see you have a 5.7, I think you should keep the TPI

BTW: I'm pretty sure I have the 40 series flowmaster, and it sounds deep and throaty. Its a cat back system, not true duals though.

As for those against the flames... Some of us are just born pyros.

92z28camarokid

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Its a 350. I had 1 to many problems with the FI/Computerised crap that I decided to go back to wut i know and that is Carburated. I wouldnt have changed it if I wasnt having so many expensive problems. Plus when I was looking at the engine work I wanted to get done in the future I thought it best/cheapest to convert to carburated. I talked to a speed shop owner who had converted multiple 3rd gens to carb, basically what he said was that;
1. It cheaper to get more power out of it
2. A lot easier to work on.

whatever84

you can get more power and better mileage from FI,(Quote)


That's half right. You can and almost surly will get better mileage with FI. A well tuned carb will make a bit more power then a FI setup on the same motor. They have proved that time and time again. Of course FI has better drive ability then MOST carbs.

Mark.

92z28camarokid

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I was having some serious issues and ended up gettin as lil as 8mpg with TPI, so im thinkin ill get better gas milage when i switch to carb after i get it all timed correctly. But before I was having the issues i was gettin 24highway and 18 city with a 350. It was really nice, but when I started lookin parts for my car it was gettin really expensive. That was the main reason I switched to carburated.

1Aauto

I have a flame thrower set sitting in my garage too, but was waiting to get like an old 49 Ford that I can paint flat black and make an old moonshine type car outta. I'd love to drop a Roush crate motor in one.

All of these tricks flame throwers, suicide doors,shaved handles, interchanging parts from different vehicles.

Those are all old school hot rod tricks the have been around for decades. Check out a street or a rat rod show, you'll see some really cool stuff.

monkihead

I've installed them before, but don't recommend using any chambered muffler. A glass back or resonator type muffler would be proper choice. It cuts your ignition to the plugs allowing the unburnt fuel to reach the tailpipe. Be ready to change your oil more often due to fuel washing the cylinders and bearings.

1Aauto

This is what my old school kit does. Don't some of the new kits not kill the motor.I think there are better ones on the market now, but haven't looked in a long time.

92z28camarokid

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The one i got kills the motor. I was hopin to find a good muffler that will work, glass packs are crazy loud but not really throaty, my buddy has dual glass packs on his truck and that thing practically wakes the dead. Im wanting for of something that will sound good rather then just being good for the flame throwers. Something I could compromise with.

monkihead

All I can give feedback on is a kit that I have personally installed.

http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autol...c=flamethrower

Yes, it can shoot over 20ft of a flame. It gets interesting if you spray some carb cleaner in the muffler on the fiberglass packing. talk about a bang.

Black_Knight

Pretty much my thoughts on the subject. I don't know why anyone would want to do this, then again I never understood why people would buy any number of hideous vehicles like the Pontiac Aztek, the Scion XB, the AMC Gremlin and the Ford Pinto. I also never understood how anyone could hear the sound of a Honda Civic with a grape fruit launcher on the end of it, and describe it as "sounding awesome."

Different strokes I guess.

five7kid

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My comments/suggestions can be summed up in one word:

"Don't!"

84blacktransam

How do these kits work? Do they cut the plugs so gas goes through the pipes? What keeps the engine running, just its own momentum? And the flame wouldn't be able to be kept up for very long then I guess.

I thought that on a carbed and non-emissions car that there would be enough gas at the end of the pipes to burn. That's what hotlicksexhaust.com led me to believe: "Q: How can this kit work without choking the carb? A: There is generally enough gas the motor doesn't burn to get flames without using a choke." They were the site I was considering buying one from, because the dual kit is 50 bucks cheaper than the autolok kit and comes with plugs and the coil.

I have a manual choke on my car, so I could probably just choke it if I were going to use the flamethrower.

On a side note, because I have a manual choke, I accidentally left it on and drove with it (I need to light up my interior, too bad it doesn't have a light). I only drove like that a bit, but would that damage the engine to run under load like that?

87 player bird

My question is why? But to each their own, Just make sure you don't light the back of your car on fire. The old school hot rods had STEEL bumpers and such out the a$$end. Be careful. The cheaper way would be to just run wires to the positive side of your starter, then to the switch then to the plugs in the exhaust. But once again I have to ask, WHY?

84blacktransam

You can kind of see it in the picture on the left; on my car the back pipes stick out past the back of the bumper at least a couple inches, so I am not worried about toasting the bumper or the paint. Thats the way the exhaust was when I got the car. It kind of annoyed me at first, but now I think it looks cool, especially from the side.

As for why... like I said before, some of us are just pyros. Fire is cool. That pretty much sums up my motives there. It certainly isn't on the top of the list, but when the time comes and I have the extra cash to drop down on some flames, I'll get them.

For now though, there is more mods on the list above the flames. I have some more important things to do first once I get a job again.

itsMikey

wouldent do it...

Drew

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RU1NER

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I'm pretty sure there's one that just uses left over gas emissions and suggests you put it on an old car without cats.

92z28camarokid

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Hahaha most of them were for retarded reasons, like liscence plate covers(twice), not having a front plate on(twice), doing 51 in a 50 by a state trooper, driving with LED lights under my dads truck. Now i do have some stupid ones like recklass driving in the school parkin lot. (parking lot was empty all 3 times but still wasnt smart on my half, dif cop everytime though). Most of the times it was for little stupid things that cops were just tryin to find a reson to pull me over for. The few that were for serious stuff I was just respectful and polite. Prbly not the smartest thing to do bc they would end up searching my car for anything illegal on there such as the lack of cats or the no emissions equitment. I really dont even know if im goin to run the exhuast out the back or in front of the rear tires yet. And if I do run it out the sides then i wont put the flamethrower kit on

RU1NER

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I'd love to see a wenkel with a flame thrower kit since they already shoot out flames stock if you gut the cat and rev it on backfire.

Jeromey Cummins

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTYwhYOOff8 Now you cant tell me that aint bad-***. Love the idea bro!

firebird1992

i had flame throwers and got in all kinds of trouble
some honda was tailgating me to the point all i seen was his face in my rear-view so he got a melted bumper, a other time was in my high school parking lot fire dept & police teachers thinking my car was on fire lol

good times ....

what i say is do it right and don't go crazy like i did OFF ROAD USE means OFF public road period lol

92z28camarokid

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Exactly as long as you arnt stupid for it you shouldnt really get in any trouble. Plus u can bs and say it was a back fire

Drew

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camarogeorge

kkingsrulee

Sounds like a dumb idea. A waste of money.

Sadly enough I was about 12 when fast and the furious came out, and I truly believed for a while that flames come out of the tailpipe when using nitrous.

J91

I agree 100%, wholeheartedly! This subject is just not a good idea....

Stangski09

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just throw a spark plug in the tail pipe. Ive heard that's all flamethrower kits are, aren't they?

RS Reaper

sounded like a cool idea till i saw someone do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrM9PrMysHY

Not bad-*** just sad. The top secret crap at the end is pathetic and also really smart to cover up his times cause no one can say it's not a fast car. Never seen someone not want to show there times unless there crappy.