Exhaust Post your questions and suggestions about stock or aftermarket exhaust setups. Third Gen exhaust sound files and videos!

Trick o2 Sensor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-31-2008 | 03:59 PM
  #1  
blkfirebird91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: New Milford CT
Car: 1991 Trans Am
Engine: 305tbi to 350 carb'd
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Trick o2 Sensor

im wanna run catless but i need a cat to pass emissions but does anyone know how to trick out the o2 sensor so when i get it emissioned it will pass with no cat i know the sti and wrx owner do it. any help please?
Old 12-31-2008 | 05:29 PM
  #2  
Slick89RS's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: East central, WI
Car: 89 Camaro RS
Engine: TURBO 94 LT1
Transmission: T-56 6 Speed
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 4.10
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

There's no oxygen sensor to "trick" on a 91 firebird.

That vehicle doesn't monitor the converter

First you have to understand how a oxygen sensor works before I could explain how the system works on newer catalyst monitoring vehicles.

If your state performs the running test they'll catch it that you have no converter
Old 12-31-2008 | 06:26 PM
  #3  
speedlimit96's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: virginia beach, va
Car: 92 25th anniversary z28!!
Engine: 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700R
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

milford,ct huh i am in groton!! but anyway i dont know how the ct inspection goes but if its just visual, just take your cats out and hollow them out and put them back so it looks like you got them in!! and your o2 sensor aint got nothing to do with your cats, your o2 sensor is around your exhaust manifold but also plays in with emissions.
Old 12-31-2008 | 09:46 PM
  #4  
blkfirebird91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: New Milford CT
Car: 1991 Trans Am
Engine: 305tbi to 350 carb'd
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

ok cool man thanks ill do that tomorrow and hollow out the cat for the hell of it thanks for the replys . also how does the o2 sensor play a part with emissions
Old 01-01-2009 | 04:11 AM
  #5  
Air_Adam's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 9,067
Likes: 1
From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

Originally Posted by blkfirebird91
also how does the o2 sensor play a part with emissions
The upstream O2 sensor (the one in the manifold) plays a part in emissions controls, in that it plays a major part in the ECM's constant recalibrating of the engine controls - its what lets the ECM know whats going on as far as fuel goes... too much, too little, just right, etc. A constantly self-adjusting system like this can't be done without an O2 sensor in the exhaust system. With the self-tuning ability, comes better performance, economy, run quality, and emissions control.
Old 01-01-2009 | 04:31 AM
  #6  
speedlimit96's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: virginia beach, va
Car: 92 25th anniversary z28!!
Engine: 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700R
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

also make sure with the long tube headers you get heated O2 sensors! also are there any drags in this freakin state man?
----------
with the post above i was assuming you have long tube headers? if you dont then ignore the heated o2 sensors, but if you do have long tube headers you might have and issue with having cats, b/c there is going to be a whole lot of room from the headers and y-pipe to the big pipe running down the center

Last edited by speedlimit96; 01-01-2009 at 04:36 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Old 01-01-2009 | 09:59 AM
  #7  
blkfirebird91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: New Milford CT
Car: 1991 Trans Am
Engine: 305tbi to 350 carb'd
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

theres no drag i know of but im gonna be heading down to the one in Lebanon Ny when it opens.
Old 01-01-2009 | 07:50 PM
  #8  
speedlimit96's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: virginia beach, va
Car: 92 25th anniversary z28!!
Engine: 5.7L 350
Transmission: 700R
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

how far is that from groton?
Old 01-01-2009 | 08:36 PM
  #9  
blkfirebird91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: New Milford CT
Car: 1991 Trans Am
Engine: 305tbi to 350 carb'd
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

its kinda far man but when it opens again we could hook up if you want to go i havent been there at all but theres a first thing for everything we can take RTE7 where i live and take it all the way up to US RTE 20 it could be like a weekend thing im sure alot more people would go also leave like on a friday come back sunday afternoon

Last edited by blkfirebird91; 01-01-2009 at 08:42 PM.
Old 01-04-2009 | 10:29 PM
  #10  
Kevin91Z's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 10,947
Likes: 21
From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

Originally Posted by blkfirebird91
ok cool man thanks ill do that tomorrow and hollow out the cat for the hell of it thanks for the replys . also how does the o2 sensor play a part with emissions
No, do not hollow out the cat for the hell of it. A catalytic converter is required by federal law, as it really helps to clean up the air. The stock ones are restrictive but the aftermarket ones from Magnaflow, Catco, or Random Tech are not. Please do your part to be a responsible hot rodder and keep the cat on your car.
Old 01-07-2009 | 10:12 PM
  #11  
blkfirebird91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: New Milford CT
Car: 1991 Trans Am
Engine: 305tbi to 350 carb'd
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

iam now keeping the cat on and im not gutting it neither i decided to go a different way with my exhaust.
Old 01-08-2009 | 12:06 AM
  #12  
scribbles's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
From: California, Sacrameto
Car: 88 gta
Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

Even if you gut it out and replace it, most smog tech will tap it, and if it is hollow. It sounds hollow = Fail, and Fine.
Old 01-10-2009 | 08:42 PM
  #13  
Air_Adam's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 9,067
Likes: 1
From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Re: Trick o2 Sensor

You won't pass the sniffer test without a cat, even if you do pass the visual. Its just too important of a component to leave off of something thats going to get sniffed. Its won't pass. If it could pass without it, GM would never have put it on in the first place. Its not illegal to remove it because the government said it has to be there, its illegal because GM put it there, so it has to stay there. If GM could have made it pass without adding that $500 component to the car, they gladly would have.

Just get a good aftermarket cat and use it... you won't lose any power through it, it will pass the sniffer (or at least get you that much closer), and you won't be one of "those guys" that gives hot rodders a bad rap for being careless poluters. I'm no eco-**** by any stretch, but I think its just stupid to remove an emitions component just for the sake of removing it. My '97 LT1 still has all the emitions components - AIR, EGR, both cats, both rear O2s, etc - and all are still functional. When I get a set of headers for it, I will be getting a set of '50-state' headers and keep all those parts functional. They aren't hurting anything performance wise, and its not a bad thing to try to keep the air a little cleaner.

Last edited by Air_Adam; 01-10-2009 at 08:47 PM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
thirdgencompta
TPI
7
10-15-2003 07:28 PM
WhiteGhost
TBI
4
04-27-2003 03:19 PM
Hodge
TPI
32
11-27-2002 11:58 AM
77z
TPI
15
04-09-2002 12:40 PM
89-5.0
DIY PROM
2
12-24-2001 02:11 AM



Quick Reply: Trick o2 Sensor



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:12 PM.