SERIO

I GOT PULLED OVER FOR NO FRONT PLATE. THEN THE COP LOOKED UNDER MY CAR AND SAW NO CAT UNDER THERE. THAT DAY SUCKED. WELL ANYWAYS I LIVE IN CALI. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THE FINE WILL BE.

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

What to do? FIX IT. Hi-Flow cats MIGHT cost you 2hp, at MOST, so why get rid of it?

Dunno about California, but here in Texas, you can get it fixed within a certain # of days, get an officer to sign off, saying it has been put on, and it is considered a Fix-It ticket. Much cheaper.

With any ticket considering emissions tampering, a note of the inspection station will be made, and they are put up for investigation. It very well could have been there when it was inspected & you took it off afterwards, so they can't do anything to the station.

82 Iron Duke

iTrader: (21)

The cop actually got that low to check under your car he must of had nothing better to do that day

SERIO

YEA I KNOW THAT WAS A MISTAKE I DID? I AM GOING TO PUT A HI-FLOW CAT? DO U KNOW OF ANY HI-FLOW CATS THAT U RECOMMEND?

WELL THE OFFICER TOLD ME TO FIX IT THEN GET IT INSPECTED AND A SIGN OFF SAYING IT IS ON THE CAR. THEN JUST WAIT TILL I HAVE TO GO TO COURT TO PAY A FINE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AROUND HOW MUCH THE FINE FOR NOT HAVING THE CAT IS GOING TO BE AT.
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HAHA HE ACTUALLY DID HE WENT ON HIS KNEES TO

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

No idea on a California ticket cost....

Go with a Magnaflow cat. Probably the highest flowing cat out there. No AIR tube doesn't exist anymore. My pulley & belt are gone. But my #s at testing time are almost ZERO. I mean SUPER CLEAN, yet the AIR system is just there for looks now!

SERIO

OH OK THANX. IF SOME HOW U FIND OUT PLZ LET ME KNOW PLZ.

WHERE CAN I FIND THAT MAGNAFLOW CAT. IS IT IN JEGS.
DOES UR GTA HAVE ONE OF THESE HI-FLOW CATS.
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IF ANYONE OUT THERE KNOWS HOW MUCH IS A FINE FOR NOT HAVING A CAT PLZ LET ME KNOW AROUND HOW MUCH IT IS. PLZ AND THANX AHEAD OF TIME.

Stephen

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Mine is a cat-back Texas Speed Rumbler system for a LS1, modded to fit my car. With a Magnaflow cat. And yes, Jeg's/Summit, etc., all carry Magnaflow cats.

BTW....All caps are considered yelling, on the 'net. Might wanna try lower case...

SERIO

oh lol i am used to caps cause i write with caps too lol, i like caps lol. thanx for letting me know though lol.

oh alright thanx ill go get me one of those magnaflow cats. do the cats also make the car sound different or nah.

does ur GTA have an LS1.

Stephen

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Not yet.... 170,000 mile L98 & kicking strong!

SERIO

i want one in mine too. wat happens if a cop looks under the hood and sees that there is an LS1 wat will happen there, is that legal to do, i think it is if it passes smog right.

Stephen

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Check your state laws for that. Have 2 local 3rd gens w/ LS1s. Only requirement is that it passes the cars emissions requirements. Some state don't allow it PERIOD, others require emissions testing according to the engine. 2002 LS1 in a 1983 Camaro? 2002 emissions requirements then,

SERIO

do u know where i can find out if cali. allows ppl to do that. is it at the DMV where u ask.

Kevin91Z

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Yes you can upgrade your engine to newer specs in CA. The DMV's website is http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ You will need to take it to the state smog referee (not just a local smog check station) and have them sign off on the swap.

No idea what the fine will be, but you can post over in the NorCal section and ask them.

Dyno Don

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Be careful, if they consider it tampering, it can be $1000.

WOODY

The Federal law says it's a $10,000 fine by anyone removing, disabling(sp), tampering, altering a vehicles emmission control system.

TA

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I don't know anyone in CA that has simply removed their cat and drove on the street, let alone gotten caught. I'm guessing you are one of those guys that loves LOUD exhausts? Doing that with no cat is like lighting a house on fire and being surprised when the fire department puts it out.

YOU REMOVING the cat is the big problem. Don't even think about saying you took it off yourself, that is tampering, swear it was stolen or you bought the car that way. If they cannot prove that you took it off, put a cat on and get it signed off ASAP and you should skate with a fix-it ticket, which varies depending on where you got it, but is usually around $50 bucks.

The longer you wait, the more likely that it will become a big problem.

TA

calamitascamaro

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Definitely do NOT admit you took it off.

slow_90firebird

Damn I think I would do the respectable jail time before I paid $10,000!! Thats 3 years of wages for me.

SERIO

alright cool that means an LS1 swap is allowed.
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i got the car with no cat i saw it on the ticket and i was like wat is that still considering tampering.

SERIO

yea i love loud exhaust but i bought it like that, i got it a year ago going to 2 years, the car is moslty garage kept for the whole time i had it cause of the gas only use it on the fridays, saturdays, and sundays. so i just left it like that since i rarely used it, but the cop looked under the car and yea i got it written down on the ticket. the officer said to put it on and get it signed off and wait till court.

KNBlazer

although this is an old thread, it made me lmao for a good 2 minutes... ... so what was the verdict?

HCR13

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man, California (smog *****) suck, good luck with the ticket...

five7kid

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Must still be doin' the time. . .

itsMikey

^^^ xD prolly...i would..rather than pay $10g

KNBlazer

Hope he remembered the body wash...

firebird1992

OMG you live in California, man anything to do with emissions or vented into the air is a HELL no there.

you ever notice like almost everything having to do with air is fine in other states but cause cancer in california lol

but i know here in NJ if a cop is a really hardass i mean king A-hole he can check but most cops i see can't tell the different between a v6 or v8 so yea that don't happen much around here but it's 5000 if not fixed in 90 days after the 3rd ticket. i have one cop ask if my car was a new model or did i build it lol now this was in 2009 lol

Larry 89GTA

I'm still waiting for the day when California starts requiring everyone to wear masks 24/7 to absorb the carbon dioxide when they exhale...

Love visiting Cali, but glad I don't live there!

KNBlazer

Air_Adam

I can't wait till they ban cows (or start emitions testing them) because of the methane/CO/CO2 they produce...

dealbatony

i would move back to california anyday..
nothing better than waking up to clouds and grey skies
i hate this arizona heat and all the dust..
my sinuses go crazy!!!

92z28camarokid

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On my car Im running flowmaster 80series with No Cats, here they may give you a ticket for loud exhaust, but when I say loud Im talkin about a no cats and dual glass packs loud. What most of us do around here is punch the cat out and either get a size up and just slide it over the straigt pipe and weld the ends or just have a punched out cat. Its almost a guarentee that every truck down here is runnin straight pipe or no cats.

As for the OP, hey atleast you got the cop on his knees. LOL congrats

MotorMouth

They want ban them outright. They will make the farms in Ca. use Cowatalytic Converters and charge them a new tax.

RED_DRAGON_85

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

too funny

EvilCartman

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but but, happy cows come from California I'm sure they wouldn't be too happy with a Cowatalytic Converter strapped to their butts. Then there's the whole science thing saying CO2 numbers are still on the rise, CFC numbers have been falling since 2000 and we're cooling off o.O

anesthes

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It's sad.

But, until the voters, and the people start sticking up your just gonna keep dealing with the liberal nonsense.

While, we can all agree, removing a cat is a no no, CA is still insane.

You guys realize how much cheaper cars would be if they didn't have to meet these emissions guidelines?

Also wondering if the OP is doing time!

-- Joe

InfernalVortex

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Catalytic conversters convert poisonous gasses into greenhouse gasses. Many of us run without cats and havent died yet so I will conclude the danger of non-catted cars to humans and animals is overstated. By corrolary, without cats, we would have less greenhouse gasses, and with less greenhouse gasses, there would be less global warming.

How about them apples California!

five7kid

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I'll take carbon dioxide to carbon monoxide any day.

Anthropogenic global warming is a myth created for the purpose of wealth redistribution.

Air pollution is a real problem.

KNBlazer

Yeah, I do agree our idiot politicians are insane here in Cali... they need to go peck on someone else, not a car enthusiast demographic...

xX89RSXx

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I love how state vehicles, trucks, buses, and so on have all this nasty black smoke pouring out, but is ok. And yet if our vehicles go 1 point over the limit we fail emissions. I can't breath when one of those are in front of me.

SERIO

This is so funny what everyone is saying and can't believe people think I did time. And then talking about them Cali cows lol also that people still posted after 2 years passed by lol.

duckmanquacker

Soooo did you finally get your hair ball convertor(cat a lick tic) installed under your car??

Dante93GTZ

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I love living in Tennessee... Here in Knoxville, there is no vehicle inspection and NO emissions testing. I refuse to live somewhere that controls what you drive and all that crap.

But in all honesty, just put a high flow on and be done. Its just an L03 for cryin' out loud.

Eagle223usa

Five7kid, very astute! Bullseye! Ever noticed that every thing fun HAS to be bad somehow. Emmisions are BS. Redistribution of wealth is real. I try my very best not to buy anything from Kali if possible. Isn't it funny that the state that set the car trends (Kali) has the most draconian laws now?

GeeJenn91RSV8

Are you gonna fill us in or what? What was the outcome?

Chevy86 IROC-Z

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I got no cat and I live in southern cali. I have yet ato be caught spinning tires. I believe Magnaflow is the only CA legal. Also last year on the homepage of Magnaflow, I saw a CA legal with a little AIR tube. I dont know if theey sell em still but Im sure that Summit has em.

MotorMouth

It's coming to a state near you! It's just a matter of time before all 50 states will have it. If the new clear air bill passes.

Chevy86 IROC-Z

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If the new clean air bill passes, there will be a major problem in our 3rd Gen's. The EGR sensor/switch is discontinued. This is a must for emissions. Imagine how much money all vendors would lose if the air restrictions stiffen up. I imagine around 90% of all cats are not within specs of CA law. Thats a lot of cats to throw away or open and strip the platinum because of a law that may pass.

Chevy86 IROC-Z

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What I think is completely ridiculous is that if a IROC has its original Cat, it will not need to meet the current air standards and a smog station. But If you buy an aftermartket cat for a CA address, it must meet standards in CA or it will not be sold to a CA address. In other words, if its original and still in the Camaro, your good. But if you need a new one, it must meet CA requirements.

Chevy86 IROC-Z

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Follow link for prices at magnflow.com ( http://www.magnaflow.com/02catalytic...california.asp )

Shadygrady

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I dont think it will go to every state,its just not economical.The federal govt is already broke.Most states are cash strapped.I live in probably the poorest state in the union.Even in the capitol city(aprox.200.000 people)there is hardly any public transportation and what they do have isnt very reliable.To get to work you have to have a car.A LOT of people can barely afford to keep there cars running much less afford to keep them emissions compliant.New car?yeah right!Whos going to pay for all these machines and testing stations.Taxpayers!When people cant work because they cant drive their illegal cars there will be less taxes and more govt assistance needed.If they attempt it they`re dumber than i think they are!
Even emission compliant cars pollute,and im sure cities and municipalities will not bother keeping all their stuff legal for cost reasons im sure.
Its like Al Gore flying around the world on one of the most polluting vehicles ever to tell people to pollute less.