New Massachusetts exhaust law pending!!!???
10-26-2004, 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by josh1988
Also, I was aware of the aftermarket exhaust already being illegal in MA, I had a very nice state trooper explain it to me one night at about 3 in the morning after he had pulled me over (it was understandable, it was that time of night and I had 3 other kids in my camaro) I wasn't speeding or anything, he was more or less checking on how sober i was i guess, but he made a comment on my flowmaster american thunder exhaust being illegal, so i asked him to explain. Anyways, my question is, doesn't flowmaster market their stuff as being 50 state legal? I know my edelbrock headers say 50 state legal right on them and they came with a c.a.r.b. certificate that i carry around in my car. I beleive that is the case, and if im correct, how do they get away with that?
Also, I was aware of the aftermarket exhaust already being illegal in MA, I had a very nice state trooper explain it to me one night at about 3 in the morning after he had pulled me over (it was understandable, it was that time of night and I had 3 other kids in my camaro) I wasn't speeding or anything, he was more or less checking on how sober i was i guess, but he made a comment on my flowmaster american thunder exhaust being illegal, so i asked him to explain. Anyways, my question is, doesn't flowmaster market their stuff as being 50 state legal? I know my edelbrock headers say 50 state legal right on them and they came with a c.a.r.b. certificate that i carry around in my car. I beleive that is the case, and if im correct, how do they get away with that?
The EPA doesn't approve or dissaprove exhaust components after the catalytic converter. Flowmasters claims are bogus in that respect.
What flowmaster should do is get DOT approval, which might help folks out a little bit.
If Flowmaster got "OEM replacement certified" it would be very hard for a citation to stick in court.
But frankly, Flowmaster could care less about liberal Mass politics.
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10-26-2004, 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by anesthes
Anything MFG year 1983 or older is exempt from emissions testing, however, the inspection station is suposed to fail you if an emissions component is obviously deleted.
I've always praised the PA rule on this. It's a really nice benefit to folks who build a hot rod, but don't use it as aprimary vehicle.
I think a minimal use vehicle, such as a hotrod should be exempt from exhaust and emissions requirements.
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Anything MFG year 1983 or older is exempt from emissions testing, however, the inspection station is suposed to fail you if an emissions component is obviously deleted.
I've always praised the PA rule on this. It's a really nice benefit to folks who build a hot rod, but don't use it as aprimary vehicle.
I think a minimal use vehicle, such as a hotrod should be exempt from exhaust and emissions requirements.
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10-27-2004, 12:10 AM
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But frankly, Flowmaster could care less about liberal Mass politics.
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But frankly, Flowmaster could care less about liberal Mass politics.
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Originally posted by chio987
MFG??
MFG??
I love Canada... everything short of open headers is fine here. Come to think of it, even guys with open headers don't get hassled by the boys in blue
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thanks adam, that's what i thought it means. the G thru me off alittle....so my TA is an 84 but built in 83. so is that the MFG?
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We have that law here in VA but its one those things where if the cop wants to be an *** he can be and pull you for being loud, but around here I drive with my cutout open most are pretty ok with it but I also don’t get on it when they are around cause it can get really loud!
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thanks adam, that's what i thought it means. the G thru me off alittle....so my TA is an 84 but built in 83. so is that the MFG?
thanks adam, that's what i thought it means. the G thru me off alittle....so my TA is an 84 but built in 83. so is that the MFG?
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Originally posted by anesthes
If you get a failure sticker, just goto another station. Not everyone has a clue in life. If they were legal experts, they wouldn't be working at Midas.
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If you get a failure sticker, just goto another station. Not everyone has a clue in life. If they were legal experts, they wouldn't be working at Midas.
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I know i don't live anywhere near Mass. In OK they haven't been doing inspections for almost 3 years now. or something like that. the cops here pretty much do the same thing Joe was talking about....
Originally posted by anesthes
if the car is slightly louder and driven normally, don't cite.
If your holding the pedal to 7k in first gear with a fart pipe, and can be heard from 3 blocks away - your getting pulled over.
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if the car is slightly louder and driven normally, don't cite.
If your holding the pedal to 7k in first gear with a fart pipe, and can be heard from 3 blocks away - your getting pulled over.
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Regarding the MA inspection system... it is a bit of a joke. They designed the system to make it nearly impossible to pass if your car is not equipped with all the factory emissions equipment. If you go into a shop and throw the guy a few extra bucks... all they do is put a different car on the dyno. I've watched a good friend of mine do it time and time again. The downfall of the system is it cost about $25k to change over so many shops did not make the leap.
It'll be interesting to see how the system changes after the new year if it is in fact true. We shall soon see! Either way I am still keeping my car registered in NH where it doesnt matter!
It'll be interesting to see how the system changes after the new year if it is in fact true. We shall soon see! Either way I am still keeping my car registered in NH where it doesnt matter!
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Originally posted by Fast_25th
[B]Regarding the MA inspection system... it is a bit of a joke. They designed the system to make it nearly impossible to pass if your car is not equipped with all the factory emissions equipment.
[B]Regarding the MA inspection system... it is a bit of a joke. They designed the system to make it nearly impossible to pass if your car is not equipped with all the factory emissions equipment.
If you go into a shop and throw the guy a few extra bucks... all they do is put a different car on the dyno. I've watched a good friend of mine do it time and time again.
Either way I am still keeping my car registered in NH where it doesnt matter!
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Thanks for all the helpful information. Never suprises me how local cops try to flex their muscles whenever given the opportunity.
What's the matter couldnt get into a real branch of law enforcement? If interested let me know and I'll see if we have a slot available where it takes more than passing the civil service exam, high school diploma and running a mile to make a living. Or might you not be qualified for that?
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Originally posted by Fast_25th
Thanks for all the helpful information. Never suprises me how local cops try to flex their muscles whenever given the opportunity.
What's the matter couldnt get into a real branch of law enforcement? If interested let me know and I'll see if we have a slot available where it takes more than passing the civil service exam, high school diploma and running a mile to make a living. Or might you not be qualified for that?
Thanks for all the helpful information. Never suprises me how local cops try to flex their muscles whenever given the opportunity.
What's the matter couldnt get into a real branch of law enforcement? If interested let me know and I'll see if we have a slot available where it takes more than passing the civil service exam, high school diploma and running a mile to make a living. Or might you not be qualified for that?
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ALOT of states have laws like that, But most dont enforce it...Va has been that way for years, But as long as it has some sort of muffling thy usually wont bother you...Unless you just get bad luck 1 time!
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Originally posted by SLOWFIVEOH
ALOT of states have laws like that, But most dont enforce it...Va has been that way for years, But as long as it has some sort of muffling thy usually wont bother you...Unless you just get bad luck 1 time!
ALOT of states have laws like that, But most dont enforce it...Va has been that way for years, But as long as it has some sort of muffling thy usually wont bother you...Unless you just get bad luck 1 time!
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HAHAHA i just turned 18 and i moved me my gurl and both of our camaros to Connecticut,....she has a 2.8 and i have a 5.0 and you can hear us coming from a mile away!! not to mention theres no emissions or annual inspection here.....just register and drive!!!
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Originally posted by anesthes
I wanted to respond to a few of the rumors here.
First of all I'm a Police Officer in Mass. Some of you know me off line, others, well hello!
Rumor #1:
In regards to the pending bill, it would outlaw the sale and installation of aftermarket exhaust components. This is at the retail level. Basicly, it would mean your only limitted to purchase OEM replacement exhaust components.
The Bill IMO is crap, and won't pass.
Now the bad news is, aftermarket exhaust is and has been allready illegal in Mass.
The citation is a 90-16, and is $50. The text is as follows:
"No person shall use a muffler cut-out or by-pass. No person shall operate a motor vehicle on any way which motor vehicle is equipped (1) with a muffler from which the baffle plates, screens or other original internal parts have been removed and not replaced; or (2) with an exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust."
I've spoken with a lot of Officers on this. The general "opinion" is, if the car is slightly louder and driven normally, don't cite.
If your holding the pedal to 7k in first gear with a fart pipe, and can be heard from 3 blocks away - your getting pulled over.
Rumor #2:
Emissions. Tampering with emissions system is prosecuted by the EPA, not municipal Police. If you see a green truckwith blue/red lights following you around, get worried.
If you FAIL emissions in Mass, you have 60 days to fix it. If you don't, the state IS stating to suspend registrations now.
Rumer #3:
The IM242 emissions testing units have issues. It's a 50/50 that you'll pass. The state is working on replacing the defective units. If you failed an emissions test, goto another station and try again.
Rumer #4:
You can upgrade your motor, you just have to pass emissions. They do check if the engine is there. Federal law states you can upgrade a motor in a passenger vehicle, as long as the new motor was designed fro the same class vehicle, for the same year or future year of mfg. Basicly, this means any 88 or newer vehicle must have a fuel injected motor from a car, that passes emissions. Pre 88 vehicles can have a Carb that is emissions legal.
For example: you can transplate an LS1 into your '88 V6 Camaro. Infact, your emissions will prolly be better.
My Supercharged 355 scores so low on the emissions test it's not even funny. Just cuz somethings fast, doesn't mean it won't pass a sniffer. It's all about tuning.
If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask me.
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I wanted to respond to a few of the rumors here.
First of all I'm a Police Officer in Mass. Some of you know me off line, others, well hello!
Rumor #1:
In regards to the pending bill, it would outlaw the sale and installation of aftermarket exhaust components. This is at the retail level. Basicly, it would mean your only limitted to purchase OEM replacement exhaust components.
The Bill IMO is crap, and won't pass.
Now the bad news is, aftermarket exhaust is and has been allready illegal in Mass.
The citation is a 90-16, and is $50. The text is as follows:
"No person shall use a muffler cut-out or by-pass. No person shall operate a motor vehicle on any way which motor vehicle is equipped (1) with a muffler from which the baffle plates, screens or other original internal parts have been removed and not replaced; or (2) with an exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust."
I've spoken with a lot of Officers on this. The general "opinion" is, if the car is slightly louder and driven normally, don't cite.
If your holding the pedal to 7k in first gear with a fart pipe, and can be heard from 3 blocks away - your getting pulled over.
Rumor #2:
Emissions. Tampering with emissions system is prosecuted by the EPA, not municipal Police. If you see a green truckwith blue/red lights following you around, get worried.
If you FAIL emissions in Mass, you have 60 days to fix it. If you don't, the state IS stating to suspend registrations now.
Rumer #3:
The IM242 emissions testing units have issues. It's a 50/50 that you'll pass. The state is working on replacing the defective units. If you failed an emissions test, goto another station and try again.
Rumer #4:
You can upgrade your motor, you just have to pass emissions. They do check if the engine is there. Federal law states you can upgrade a motor in a passenger vehicle, as long as the new motor was designed fro the same class vehicle, for the same year or future year of mfg. Basicly, this means any 88 or newer vehicle must have a fuel injected motor from a car, that passes emissions. Pre 88 vehicles can have a Carb that is emissions legal.
For example: you can transplate an LS1 into your '88 V6 Camaro. Infact, your emissions will prolly be better.
My Supercharged 355 scores so low on the emissions test it's not even funny. Just cuz somethings fast, doesn't mean it won't pass a sniffer. It's all about tuning.
If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask me.
-- Joe
so even if my car had a transplant from a older car that was carb but the emissions where spotless I would fail for no other reason then it is older and carbed
even if the emissions are on par or better then what I should be pulling?
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Originally posted by anesthes
It's actually illegal federally to put a carb on any car mfg after 1987.
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It's actually illegal federally to put a carb on any car mfg after 1987.
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suburu justy I think had carbs up into the 90's on some of them
don't that against me if I'm wrong but I know something had carb up to like 90 something
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Originally posted by rx7speed
about what you where talking about with motors have to be newer and can not be carb
so even if my car had a transplant from a older car that was carb but the emissions where spotless I would fail for no other reason then it is older and carbed
even if the emissions are on par or better then what I should be pulling?
about what you where talking about with motors have to be newer and can not be carb
so even if my car had a transplant from a older car that was carb but the emissions where spotless I would fail for no other reason then it is older and carbed
even if the emissions are on par or better then what I should be pulling?
I don't agree with vehicles poluting excessively any more than I agree with the current clean air act.
I'd also support both local and federal legislature that permits "performance vehicles" that see limited use being completly exempt, but it would never fly.
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I would think that would be cool if they let limited use hotrod cars on the street again as long as it was limited use
and if ppl do swap in another motor that lets say is older or maybe carbed but can still pass emissions for the current car it is in why shouldn't they allow it?
even more so if it worked better
or like for me
lets say I swap a ls1 into my car
it wouldn't be allowed but you know how much better that ls1 will do for emissions then my current car?
QUITE A BIT
but it wouldn't pass emissions cause that motor isn't made for my car
what a crock
and if ppl do swap in another motor that lets say is older or maybe carbed but can still pass emissions for the current car it is in why shouldn't they allow it?
even more so if it worked better
or like for me
lets say I swap a ls1 into my car
it wouldn't be allowed but you know how much better that ls1 will do for emissions then my current car?
QUITE A BIT
but it wouldn't pass emissions cause that motor isn't made for my car
what a crock
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Originally posted by rx7speed
I would think that would be cool if they let limited use hotrod cars on the street again as long as it was limited use
and if ppl do swap in another motor that lets say is older or maybe carbed but can still pass emissions for the current car it is in why shouldn't they allow it?
even more so if it worked better
or like for me
lets say I swap a ls1 into my car
it wouldn't be allowed but you know how much better that ls1 will do for emissions then my current car?
QUITE A BIT
but it wouldn't pass emissions cause that motor isn't made for my car
what a crock
I would think that would be cool if they let limited use hotrod cars on the street again as long as it was limited use
and if ppl do swap in another motor that lets say is older or maybe carbed but can still pass emissions for the current car it is in why shouldn't they allow it?
even more so if it worked better
or like for me
lets say I swap a ls1 into my car
it wouldn't be allowed but you know how much better that ls1 will do for emissions then my current car?
QUITE A BIT
but it wouldn't pass emissions cause that motor isn't made for my car
what a crock
The law assumes older vehicles produce more emissions. Its an assumption.
My firebird's previous configuration with the blower and all, was roughly 500 hp. When we did a emissions check on the dyno it produced LESS emissions that most new hondas that came in there. Because it is tuned properly. The EPA is based on statistics, and the statistics show the average person can't tune jack.
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Originally posted by anesthes
You can swap a newer motor, just not an older one. So you can swap an ls1 into your 87 body.
You can swap a newer motor, just not an older one. So you can swap an ls1 into your 87 body.
I drive a mazda rx7 though
ls1 wasn't designed for my car though ppl have made them fit
My firebird's previous configuration with the blower and all, was roughly 500 hp. When we did a emissions check on the dyno it produced LESS emissions that most new hondas that came in there. Because it is tuned properly. The EPA is based on statistics, and the statistics show the average person can't tune jack.
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Even if it passes, it is a BS law. The law here in Oklahoma says: It is illegal to alter a cars exhaust in ANY way from stock. Says nothing specifically about the noise level, but that any alteration what so ever is illegal. I am running hedman longtubes, 2 1/2" duals, x-pipe, no cats, and bullets dumped before the axle and have never had a cop say anything about it.
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BTW, kinda related... anyone know where the nearest emissions inspection place is in Mass in the Middlesex area? Every one I go to says they can't do the new test!!!
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Even if it passes, it is a BS law. The law here in Oklahoma says: It is illegal to alter a cars exhaust in ANY way from stock. Says nothing specifically about the noise level, but that any alteration what so ever is illegal. I am running hedman longtubes, 2 1/2" duals, x-pipe, no cats, and bullets dumped before the axle and have never had a cop say anything about it.
Even if it passes, it is a BS law. The law here in Oklahoma says: It is illegal to alter a cars exhaust in ANY way from stock. Says nothing specifically about the noise level, but that any alteration what so ever is illegal. I am running hedman longtubes, 2 1/2" duals, x-pipe, no cats, and bullets dumped before the axle and have never had a cop say anything about it.
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I just skimmed, but when is it to be decided, or when is the next meeting relating to this.
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Originally posted by anesthes
Thats what it says in mass too, but as I've pointed out earlier, its one of those things that if your being obnoxious, you get cited. Theres a difference between rumbling down the road, and holding the pedal at 7k in a honda.. Right?
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Thats what it says in mass too, but as I've pointed out earlier, its one of those things that if your being obnoxious, you get cited. Theres a difference between rumbling down the road, and holding the pedal at 7k in a honda.. Right?
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Originally posted by White91GTA
That is exactly correct Joe...I dont know very many people with domestics and loud pipes here that have been cited, but have seen several of the obnoxious ricers pulled over
That is exactly correct Joe...I dont know very many people with domestics and loud pipes here that have been cited, but have seen several of the obnoxious ricers pulled over
When I'm at the racetrack, thats fair game. I grab gears at 6500. But the second I leave those gates, its the speed limit, a high gear, normal driving the way home.
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11-24-2004, 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by mdricken
It must have been that liberal *** John Kerry mother ****er who started the law!!!!!!!!
I swear - if I lived in Taxachussetes, I would head strait for the border on my 18th birthday. What a crock!
It must have been that liberal *** John Kerry mother ****er who started the law!!!!!!!!
I swear - if I lived in Taxachussetes, I would head strait for the border on my 18th birthday. What a crock!
Last edited by cormyr; 11-24-2004 at 12:13 AM.
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