Mccord MPP2 GP!!!
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hey in responce to my question, weld the cutout before or after the cat. will i pass smog inspection with it welded before the cat?
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Ok guys, I just ordered and paid. Hopefully he can start making them, and get them shipped out soon!
as to the smog question, i really don't know how they would handle that, i have flanged my cut-out, and am putting it in place of the cat, so come emmisions time, all i have to do is unbolt it, and bolt the cat in its place.
as to the smog question, i really don't know how they would handle that, i have flanged my cut-out, and am putting it in place of the cat, so come emmisions time, all i have to do is unbolt it, and bolt the cat in its place.
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I would like to get in on this if there is a spot. I would like 1 3inch one.
Who should i talk to to give them my info? Ive tried to talk to someone there b4 without much luck.
Who should i talk to to give them my info? Ive tried to talk to someone there b4 without much luck.
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Originally posted by 91RS5speed
I would like to get in on this if there is a spot. I would like 1 3inch one.
I would like to get in on this if there is a spot. I would like 1 3inch one.
i think we know whos paying now and who isnt..... lets get this thing rolling.
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I don't know if this helps, but here is the e-mail i recieved.
You can try e-mailing, but i dont' know what kind of luck you will have.
You are the last one in. Please indicate TGGP in the special instructions area to get the discount applied when we charge your credit card at the time of shipping. The discount will not be reflected when you order it, only when we charge your card. Thanks again.
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well, i kinda understand Mr Mccords feelings on this one... this is the least profitable GP hes probly ever going to do....
so i could understand his reluctance to add more people.
at this point, thoes who have not yet paid, arnt going to. its not like they even have to pay now. they just have to give him the ability to get his money.
im going to shoot a email to him asking for him to just keep bumping the non-payers off the list for anyone willing to pay right now... until its the full 20 people.
since afterall, its not suppost to be over until 5/31 or 20 people.
so i could understand his reluctance to add more people.
at this point, thoes who have not yet paid, arnt going to. its not like they even have to pay now. they just have to give him the ability to get his money.
im going to shoot a email to him asking for him to just keep bumping the non-payers off the list for anyone willing to pay right now... until its the full 20 people.
since afterall, its not suppost to be over until 5/31 or 20 people.
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I agree, however I don't see why he can't start to make ours and ship them if we have already gave me a method to charge us. It would make it easier instead of waiting and doing them all at once.
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Originally posted by ksrammstein
I agree, however I don't see why he can't start to make ours and ship them if we have already gave me a method to charge us. It would make it easier instead of waiting and doing them all at once.
I agree, however I don't see why he can't start to make ours and ship them if we have already gave me a method to charge us. It would make it easier instead of waiting and doing them all at once.
this is just a guess... i never asked anyone there about it.. but thats how most small biz things work.
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Originally posted by ksrammstein
I agree, however I don't see why he can't start to make ours and ship them if we have already gave me a method to charge us. It would make it easier instead of waiting and doing them all at once.
I agree, however I don't see why he can't start to make ours and ship them if we have already gave me a method to charge us. It would make it easier instead of waiting and doing them all at once.
hes already shipping the first ones once we reached the largest discount...
The problem with GPs is that people will string them out forever andannoy the rest of the paying group by delaying the closing. What we did was to get the minimum number for the largest discount available and start shipping. We put a drop dead date to see if we can shake thebushes to get people to pay up, knowing that we can delay charging creditcards until the end of the month if need be. I thought that was apretty fair deal and didn't punish the rest of the paying group. Most GPs of 20 people have about 2-3 people non-pay, so the cutoff at 15people is usually met without a problem.
Now, if people have money and are ready to go, you can fill in theavailable 5 slots of the non paying people. As someone signs up,then one person is bumped from the list. Realize though, that thosepeople signing up now are placed at the back of the queue forbuildup. That is the only fair way of rewarding those people who got into the GP early and committed.
Now, if people have money and are ready to go, you can fill in theavailable 5 slots of the non paying people. As someone signs up,then one person is bumped from the list. Realize though, that thosepeople signing up now are placed at the back of the queue forbuildup. That is the only fair way of rewarding those people who got into the GP early and committed.
05-12-2004, 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by TraviZ
alright so when does he start shippinG
alright so when does he start shippinG
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
he probly doesnt own the CNC machine... so he has to tell them how many to cut.
this is just a guess... i never asked anyone there about it.. but thats how most small biz things work.
he probly doesnt own the CNC machine... so he has to tell them how many to cut.
this is just a guess... i never asked anyone there about it.. but thats how most small biz things work.
i asked:
Just for the record, we do own our own CNC equipment. The bodies are rough
cut 200 out of a 4'x8' sheet of aluminum. The units are then machined gang
style on our high speed cnc mill. It really is just a matter of optimizing
our run so that we can run a bunch through at a time under one
setup. Building a single MPP2 cost more than running 10 through believe it
or not. So, to keep our costs low, we do the GPs this way.
cut 200 out of a 4'x8' sheet of aluminum. The units are then machined gang
style on our high speed cnc mill. It really is just a matter of optimizing
our run so that we can run a bunch through at a time under one
setup. Building a single MPP2 cost more than running 10 through believe it
or not. So, to keep our costs low, we do the GPs this way.
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Originally posted by TraviZ
i paid well over a week ago and said he can bill it on the tenth.
do u think mine is shipped?
i paid well over a week ago and said he can bill it on the tenth.
do u think mine is shipped?
im just guessing, but id assume he doesnt plan on sipping it until the 10th... since you didnt technicly "pay" rather, you gave him the info needed to pay, and he'll get the money on the 10th.
05-12-2004, 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by TraviZ
well its the 12th now, so should have been billed 2 days ago
well its the 12th now, so should have been billed 2 days ago
**resets date on computer**
:lala:
im just totally out of it today... VERY VERY boring day.
the most exciting thing today was the water cooler got a small leak... i pulled the bottle off the top, and the leak is solved until tomarrow.
now please excuse me... im going to go bang my head on my desk for the next 20mins.
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from a email i just got
Just to reiterate the rules of the GP as stated on the original page. We
are building and shipping in the order that people ORDERED. The webpage
lists the units in production in one color and the shipped units in
another. People can watch as they go through the process. Even though
some people asked to be billed on a date after they ordered, it is still in
the order of ORDERS received. That is why we harped on people to get them
in and ordered. The only person who jumped out of order is Patrick
Apetz because he is shipping out to Iraq. I think most people will
understand why he gets preferential treatment. It is the least we can do
for someone who serves our country!
are building and shipping in the order that people ORDERED. The webpage
lists the units in production in one color and the shipped units in
another. People can watch as they go through the process. Even though
some people asked to be billed on a date after they ordered, it is still in
the order of ORDERS received. That is why we harped on people to get them
in and ordered. The only person who jumped out of order is Patrick
Apetz because he is shipping out to Iraq. I think most people will
understand why he gets preferential treatment. It is the least we can do
for someone who serves our country!
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
from a email i just got
The only person who jumped out of order is Patrick
Apetz because he is shipping out to Iraq. I think most people will
understand why he gets preferential treatment. It is the least we can do
for someone who serves our country!
from a email i just got
The only person who jumped out of order is Patrick
Apetz because he is shipping out to Iraq. I think most people will
understand why he gets preferential treatment. It is the least we can do
for someone who serves our country!
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just wanted to say fedex dude pulled up, i got my cutout valve from summit. now just waiting on the electric addon 
summit rules!
i ordered it the 10th, they shipped the 11th and i got it today , the 12th.
summit rules!
i ordered it the 10th, they shipped the 11th and i got it today , the 12th.
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Patrick,
I'm a semi-liberal democrat and I don't think you guys are baby killers. I'm proud of all the soldiers over there except for the ones who abused their powers. Any blame for the war or the needless continued loss of soldiers lives should be on Pres. Bush and his administration for keeping you guys there after the job was really done. We got Saddam, less resources to Iraq, and more to getting Bin Laden....he's always been the real threat!
I totally agree with McCord for bumping him to #1!
Hopefully you can get the chance to enjoy it on your car before you deploy.
I'm a semi-liberal democrat and I don't think you guys are baby killers. I'm proud of all the soldiers over there except for the ones who abused their powers. Any blame for the war or the needless continued loss of soldiers lives should be on Pres. Bush and his administration for keeping you guys there after the job was really done. We got Saddam, less resources to Iraq, and more to getting Bin Laden....he's always been the real threat!
I totally agree with McCord for bumping him to #1!
Hopefully you can get the chance to enjoy it on your car before you deploy.
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Hey man, I feel ya, don't wanna hijack this thread into a political debate but I feel we should pull out now more than ever. Especially after this whole stupid stuff with the MP's who pulled that crap. Honestly, I don't think Bush is to blame, he's doing his job and good and bad things come along with that. I didn't mean to criticize the liberals, i meant the hardcore tree-hugging hippies, not the ordinary people out there. Sorry if it didn't come out that way.
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lol second question
i have the 3" cutout, but stock exhaust piping, 2.5" i believe? or 2.25"
whats the best way to making this fit up?
i have the 3" cutout, but stock exhaust piping, 2.5" i believe? or 2.25"
whats the best way to making this fit up?
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Originally posted by TraviZ
lol second question
i have the 3" cutout, but stock exhaust piping, 2.5" i believe? or 2.25"
whats the best way to making this fit up?
lol second question
i have the 3" cutout, but stock exhaust piping, 2.5" i believe? or 2.25"
whats the best way to making this fit up?
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is he answering any bodys emails i emailed him about me using a debit card and he never answered back. i also wanted to ask him if i can change from 2.5 to a 3 in dia
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this guy is great. i asked him if i could go from 2.5 toa 3 he said no problem. and i asked about the card i used he said he would get back to me if it didnt work. this guy is great.
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mine either . I think they don't charge you till it ships tho. He might be a little behind considering he is building like 16 of them.
. I think they don't charge you till it ships tho. He might be a little behind considering he is building like 16 of them.
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well he just charged mine....
kinda upset about it since hes was not suppost to until the 21st....
i got a invoice in the mail.. dual cutout is $188 to my door.
kinda upset about it since hes was not suppost to until the 21st....
i got a invoice in the mail.. dual cutout is $188 to my door.
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He is building mine now and has not charged me yet. and i asked him to charge me last friday.
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i see mine is being built. one problem. i forgot my website charged my cc, and now i only have like 91 dollars on credit. ***. whats going to happen?
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Got mine in the mail today. Seems to be pretty decent quality. The weld points looked a little smaller than I had hoped. Also, the light is very very tiny, hehe. I thought it was going to be a bigger light but it's only about 1-2cm big. It works great though. I hooked it up to the battery and it took 4-5 seconds to open and close each time. I can't wait to get my cutout installed so I can bolt it on and find a spot inside the car to mount the switch and light. Where are you guys going to mount yours??
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Originally posted by TraviZ
i see mine is being built. one problem. i forgot my website charged my cc, and now i only have like 91 dollars on credit. ***. whats going to happen?
i see mine is being built. one problem. i forgot my website charged my cc, and now i only have like 91 dollars on credit. ***. whats going to happen?
1 the transaction will be declined.
2, it will go through, and you bank will hit you with over draft fees.
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1 of 2 things.
1 the transaction will be declined.
2, it will go through, and you bank will hit you with over draft fees.
1 of 2 things.
1 the transaction will be declined.
2, it will go through, and you bank will hit you with over draft fees.
he wont see anything bad, it goes thru just fine... and your banks overdraft protection covers the rest... then you just have to give the bank its money.
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when does the discount start again. when he charges us or right now.
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well i paid 218 thats what it said. when he charges me will it be 180 or what. i only have 210 in the account right now. need to know if i have put in the other 8
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well i paid 218 thats what it said. when he charges me will it be 180 or what. i only have 210 in the account right now. need to know if i have put in the other 8
well i paid 218 thats what it said. when he charges me will it be 180 or what. i only have 210 in the account right now. need to know if i have put in the other 8
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