BuddyLeeX

I was wondering what the best sounding/performing cat-back was, and what is the best sounding/performing cat-back for the price. Thanks.

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Matt87GTA

Flowmaster. Do a search, this is asked hourly.......

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Flash84Z28

All those are in the $300 range I think. Performing Mac is the best performing system to my knowledge. The sound is good too. I like Flows also, so it's really a matter of opionion.

NO ONE should say Flowmaster is the best. Hooker is the best. Look at #'s and most importantly listen too as many systems as you can. The people that say "this is the best" do not know your tastes or what sounds good to you. Do some reserch before you jump on the boat.

Mac 361.06 cfm; Dynomax 315.81 cfm; Flowmaster 257.73 cfm
-by Fred Simpson @ Sound Eng. (25" H20, 71% humitdity, 84*)

Mac 85dB; Dynomax 80dB; Flowmaster 87dB
- by Olson Sound Testing on a 89 Mustang @ 2000rpm.

Good luck,
Matt

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IROCThe5.7L

I'm gonna have to go with the flowmaster.

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BuddyLeeX

ok, so you suggest hooker or MAC. MAC looks like a really nice system, flows really good and is pretty much as loud as the flows. But, what about the hooker, you think that is the best system, I have heard many good things about hooker cat-back, never a bad comment about it. Have any facts on them?

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BuddyLeeX

ok I found some stuff out about the hooker cat-back. http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin.../ESM/Aero.html

It seems to me that the hooker is about 5 dB quiter than the MAC and the MAC might flow a tad better than the hooker, about 20 cfm better. I just found those comparisons out using my knowledge, but maybe there is a better way I dont know. If anyone has any objections to MAC being better than Hooker, or some more info on these two, or anyone agreeing that FlowMasters suck *** , your input is welcomed. Thanks.

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breathment

the flowmaster catback is good except for the muffler............

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Flash84Z28

Don't get me wrong. I love the sound/quality of Flows. I think that you should just listen to differant systems rather than just belive that one company is the best. I have heard very good reviews of Hooker's catback. Go to the sounds page and make some downloads. I'm sure you'll find differances in the tones and choose a favorite. Like I said before it's your opinion.


Also the sound level at the Hooker site is at 3000rpm not 2000, as are the numbers I posted. All those systems would be noticably louder at 1000 more rpm.

-Hope this clears things up,
Matt

Matt87GTA

B.S. I have to say this every time someone asks about exhaust!! Look at a fast car (a 14 second car is NOT a fast car) and you will see FLowmaster(s)..... Do you want to make lots of power, or not?????

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My GTA

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PONTIMANIAC 90

I'm not sure what this argument is about.
Are you interested in: HOW IT SOUNDS? HOW IT PERFORMS? or which is the best CATBACK?
The bottom line is; they all "Sound" good. Performance increase is relative to many other variables and a 14second car IS A 14 SECOND CAR BECAUSE IT'S just that!
A good muffler will not get you out of 14s, unless your car runs between 14.1-14.3, or something lke that.
I got a Flowmaster and it's good enough for me to get out of 14s.So do the math.

Jza

Hehe..

BuddyLeeX

Flowmasters are the worst flowing muffler, but they are excellent on "fast cars", say like a 12 second car, now they will perform better on that car than my almost bone stock 15 second bird.

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breathment

ok, this is only my OPINION.

if i were air wanting to go fast, which would i rather go through??



or



or


one of the last two, however, if ur not planning on making as much power as possible, then choose the cheapest, flowmaster, that the reason 70% of people have them, plus they sound good,

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BuddyLeeX

Magnaflow is a very good muffler but its just too damn expensive, and do they have a cat-back?

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Matt87GTA

Well, those pictures you have of the insides of the muffler depict the comparison of a crossflow Flowmaster (80 series) to a straight through style 'turbo' muffler. That is not a valid comparison. Find a picture of a crossflow 'turbo' style muffler and you will not be as impressed with it. If you don't mind having only one outlet pipe for your exhaust, then jump on a straight through style muffler as it will perform slightly better than a crossflow style muffler. But if you want to keep the dual outlets, you will have to get a crossflow style muffler and make the small sacrifice in flow, which is really not enough to worry about until you get your car REALLY fast....

And Flowmasters are not the cheapest out there. Dynomax, Hooker, and a host of other brands are cheaper mufflers than Flowmaster - and if you get a single inlet/outlet muffler, they flow slightly better than a Flowmaster on paper. But there is more to a muffler than flow ratings in cfm - and that's assuming that these companies post honest numbers about their products abilities . And neither I, nor any of my friends that run Flowmasters, got them because they are cheaper than some other brand. We run them because they have been proven to be hands down the best muffler out there for performance applications and virtually everyone agrees that they also sound the best.

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ImportsRsloths

Either Random Technology or the Hooker Catback!!!!

BuddyLeeX

There is another oen for the hooker cat-back, I heard so much good stuff about it, yet I hear a lot of good stuff about the MAC and I saw their statistics, its nice.

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Big454blockchevy

Flowmaster is the way to go .

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BuddyLeeX

I HATE FLOWMASTER!!!

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Matt87GTA

I wouldn't admit stupidity in such a public place like this, if I were you!

Anyways.... J/K .

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BAK12484

in my opinion i would go with Hooker or MAC. Quite frankly i'm sick and tired of hearing everyone praising how Flowmaster is the best out there... its just plain annoying. Everyone and their brother has a flowmaster on their car - dozens of kids at my high school do... from early 90's sh*tbangers to recent suv's. To me, they only choose Flowmaster becaue they are uneducated and feel the need to follow the "crowd". Personally I havent had experience w/ either to see which actually performs better, but if there are numbers are out that show that Hooker/MAC are better than Flowmaster, hell, go for it.

Like I said, this is just my opinion so don't flame me :P

BuddyLeeX

Exactly, they hear all this **** about flows and think its the shiznat, well its not, its a good muffler but its not great, it may be great sounding but nothign more I beleive. Ive seen stats on MAC taht it flows way better than flowmasters and is only 2 dB quiter than flowmaster, not bad at all, and as for hooker, I think they are just a little bit under MAC in flowing and I dont know about sound.

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IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

FLOWMASTER. They do sound the best. Theres a reason why so many have them people. They buy them because of the sound. If there was an exhaust that sounded better every1 would go with them, but Flowmaster has the best sound when done correctly. They sound much better with an entire matching exhaust system rather than just throwing 1 on your stock pipes.

[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited December 01, 2001).]

Illegal T/A

Don't get me wrong flows are good its just the fact that every exhaust shop u go to has them layin around so since they are always in stock thats what they use. Out of all the mufflers out there u can't just say flows sound the best (just cause u have them on your car)there just more available than other brands (hey!I think they start selling them in grocery stores now LOL) I cant talk to bad about them I had flows on my cars too!

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soulbounder

Okay, who has the website to MAC and how come I've never even heard of them? Do they have another name?

MetKiss316

Here is why I think I am going with a Mac cat-back:

Mac 361.06 cfm; Dynomax 315.81 cfm; Flowmaster 257.73 cfm
-by Fred Simpson @ Sound Eng. (25" H20, 71% humitdity, 84*)
-C-5 in what condititions did Dynomax make 1000cfm????

Mac 85dB; Dynomax 80dB; Flowmaster 87dB
- by Olson sound testing on a 89 Mustang @ 2000rpm.


Plus it is almost as loud as a Flowmaster(the tone is great), but it flows a HELL of a lot more.

MacPerformance.com

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Future Mods: Flowmaster American Thunder 3 in. Cat-back, Catco High Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker Super Comp Shorty Headers Jet Hot coated, K&N Air Cleaner, CompCam 264H, White Paint, IROC wheels, Alpine CDM-7871 CD player, Polk Audio speakers, Grant GT Rally Steering wheel,New Fuel Pump, Ground Effects, B&M Megashifter

D.DASTURDLEE

I bought the Hooker because it was cheaper and sounded more muscular. The flowmaster is also a little too ***** for my taste. The flowmasters ARE attention getters, but its usually the "Look at how slow Im going" type. I also didnt want the local ******* police playing "Follow the flowmaster."

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TonyC

iTrader: (1)

The best system, in my opinion, is the Borla Adjustable Catback. Best performance, because you can run it without the muffler and probably the best sounding (this is in the eye of the beholder, however). This system is really expensive in comparison to other exhausts, however. For the money I'd say that the Hooker Aerochamber system is great as well, sounds great and performs.

BuddyLeeX

Hey Metkiss316, You and I have the same engine and I am thinking of getting hooker headers as well with a high flow(gutted or straight pipe cat), but Im not sure what cat-back to get. How does your car sound with the flows?

Also

Hey D.Dasturdlee, you have a 305 as well but not the same as mine, how does the hooker cat-back sound on yours?

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BuddyLeeX

oh wait you have an LG4 also D.Dasturdlee, guess we do have the same engine.

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MetKiss316

I don't have Flows.

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BuddyLeeX

ohhhhhhhhh those are your future mods. my bad, then what do you have and how does it sound?

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MetKiss316

I have the stock piece of **** right now LOL...and it sounds...like a stock piece of **** exhaust.

Here are my ideas for my exhaust of what i'd like to have totally done:

1. Hooker SuperComp Shorties, 3 in. cat, 3 in. pipe, Flowmaster 40 series single inlet/dual outlet, custom tailpipes from muffler shop(since muffler isn't crossflow)

2. Same thing except Mac Flowpath muffler(or just the cat-back)

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Matt87GTA

Yeah, that's what all the people say, alright........ BAHHHHHH!!! What kind of retards do you hang out with? I've got MANY friends that run Flowmasters and can rip $hit up big time..... to the tune of 10s and better....

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BuddyLeeX

Well sicne Im ot too patient, Im eitehr going to buy this doods flowmaster cat-back on ebay, or if that fails, MAC cat-back.

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D.DASTURDLEE

The "retards" I hang with are the ones who tend to care a lil more on how to make money & feed their families than how they can spend money on fixing their cars. Most people with flows are teenage Mustang drivers who serve up the rice recipe. Tints, wheels, lower, loud exhaust, stereo system, & paint. They will do 1 or 2 things to help performance, and swear that they can run 11s when there mostly stock.

IMO, that means in MY opinion, which I gave YOTCH!

Buddy, the exhaust sounds really nice! Jono has a clip of his under the "What is the best sounding exhaust system" thread on page 2 and it sounds monster. I dont know his setup tho.

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[This message has been edited by D.DASTURDLEE (edited December 02, 2001).]

Matt87GTA

That's funny - all of the guys I know have plenty of money to mod their cars without having to make their kids go without food.... ......

That post has got to be the most ignorant and labelling one I have ever seen. Plus it is completely wrong, at least it is completely not true where I live.... and have ever been..... or heard of....... OK, nevermind. It is just plain B as in B, S as in S.... ...

Plus you most assuredly did not put "IMO" anywhere in your post. So think before you type there, lightning wit..... lmfao...... You did say 'for my taste', but that was not combined with the statement about Flowmaster's being linked with only cars that are slow..... ....

But I guess I really am asking far too much for an LG4-powered car owner to understand what a fast car is... lmfao ....

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Flash84Z28

Well lets see if we can settle something without starting another chidish arguement. Flowmasters are on plenty of fast cars. Hell even 9 and under second cars are running down the track with racing Flows. However that does not mean that their Catbacks will produce the same flow rate as a one-chamber racing muffler. And in this case it doesen't. In fact the catback system performs quite poor compared to other brands.

I don't know where you guys get off that no fast car has flows 'couse I have seen many fast cars owned by people that know cars and racing 10x better than you. On the other side Flowmasters are not nearly as good of a performance muffler as Mac or Hooker. They both flow about 100cfm better. That is on their catback, not single chamber racing muffler.

When it comes to it the only reason your frieds cars are faster is becouse of their mods, not their exhuast.

That is fact and I'm sticking to it,
Matt

D.DASTURDLEE

1.Me & Buddy have the same engine, & thats what I think is the best catback for it.
2.He asked whats the best so I gave him my opinion, and everyone else gave theirs.
3.Are you saying all 10 sec cars run Flows, because at the track they usually dont have mufflers. I never said all flowmaster cars are slow, I said usally, which means not always but more than sometimes.
4.The car I drive has an LG4, but if I choose I can install my 427 if that would please you.
5.Must not be much to do in Minnasooooota, since your on here getting your panties in a bunch.

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T-tops Auto
Hooker AeroChamber Cat-back & some other "go fast" goodies.
Over either 230K.
Custom 15" American Racing Wheels.
Clarion Deck & Jensen 6x9s, & some house speakers in the back.

Matt87GTA

Whatever. I am finished with this topic, and you. You are dismissed.....

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355, TFS Heads, LT4 Hot Cam
My GTA

The Minnesota F-body Club

BuddyLeeX

I went to a fight once and I hockey game broke out. Weird....anyways...haha you guys are so funny. Im a proud LG4 owner damnit, Im proud to hace thi spiece of crap under my hood...I love it...actually I despise it, I hate it I want to **** all over it when I get my 350 or 383...but I think Im going to go with the MAC cat-back, with a gutted or straight pipe cat, headman y-pipe and headman shortie headers. Thanks guys. BTW my flowmaster muffler sucks huge dic k , all my exhaust is stock but still, I cant tell a difference from my stock muffler from my flowmaster otehr than a little more torque, and no difference in sound, maybe alittle but not much at all.

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Flash84Z28

Where do you get all 9 second cars have flows. Please read before you reply. I like Matt's reply and I am also done with this post that has gotten too far off the subject like too many latly.

I recommend Mac or Hooker. They have the best performance.

-Matt

Tas

mac had a repuation for rusting. I'd get SLP loud mouth.

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How omg


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Mark A Shields

Don't ask me how I found this post.

kfoley

I'd go with the hooker catback for $200.

Black91Z28

I dont know why everyone is makin fun of flowmaster....they're a great muffler and I happen to think its one of the best. I like hooker and flows, but flowmaster should not get bagged on because one person thinks they suck. Your car is not going to go fast enough to notice a difference in mufflers...unless you use single outlet right off the bat.

Mutiny32

I just got my new Hooker catback and catco direct fit 3" cat put on Wednesday. It's a little bit quieter than my old flowmaster muffler but it sounds MEAN above idle. It's unique. I live in a large metropolitan area and I've yet to hear anything close to it. I love it. Nice kick in the pants too. Anyways, good luck trying to find a hooker catback, because I bought the last one from Summit on Monday. Hooker isn't expecting to have them for awhile either because Hooker themselves are out of them.

Jeffbird

Hooker ALL THE WAY!!!!! i just got mine on a few days ago, and took the cat off and put a straight pipe in! and it sounds ****in AWESOME!!!!! ive got sooooo many good comments on it! my 78 camaro had flowemaster 40 series, they were OK but the hooker! holy fack sounds 10 times better and just ****in screams at WOT!

87GTA57L

To each his own, but does back pressure and other characteristics come into play? Is it just the 'FLOW'?
I'm sure everyone can find stats. Proally different ones too.
I thought I would give a little insight cause I always see this topic come up. I believe in the theory, you get what you pay for; for a majority of things. if you want a mandrel bent 3" stainless cat-back system, go for it. if you want a tin-foil and duct taped used exhaust, go for it. Just learn and research what you want to do before you do it. plain and simple, don't argue with people over it!
LOL! lates, 87GTA57L