Thinking of Edelbrock Shorty Headers... somebody talk me out of more money...
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Thinking of Edelbrock Shorty Headers... somebody talk me out of more money...
I was just over at the Edelbrock site looking at the shorty headers designed to bolt straight up to the stock crossover pipe. Is this a viable option when making a one time purchase? Could I bolt this up to a 3" system later down the road with minimal restrictions or should I really get headers designed for a 3" system off the bat?
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I may be missing something, but I don't think you're looking on the correct page. Check their "Application Chart for Tubular Exhaust System Headers and Shorty Headers" - you won't see a shorty replacement for factory manifolds on the Camaro/Firebird chart. Just complete systems with y-pipe.
The only manifold replacement shorties they make are for pickups and SUVs.
The only talking out of I'll do is to recommend you getting Hooker 2055's or SLPs instead of Edelbrock. Guess what? Both cost more than TES.
Now guess why...
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The only manifold replacement shorties they make are for pickups and SUVs.
The only talking out of I'll do is to recommend you getting Hooker 2055's or SLPs instead of Edelbrock. Guess what? Both cost more than TES.
Now guess why...
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R4. 2.93 limited slip. 2-1/2" cat-back, ZZ3 intake, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LG4 CC system w/'87 LB9 block, ZZ3 cam, ported World 305 heads, Hooker 2055 headers, 3" Catco cat & 3" catback, restalled TC, Spohn SFCs).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. '66 396, 9.7 CR forged TRWs, Weiand Action+, Holley 750VS w/4150 conversion, GK 270 cam, Magnum rockers, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" Hedders & 3" Warlocks, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & Trans-Scat shift kit, MegaShifter, 3.08 8.2" 10-bolt w/Powertrax, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Idles smooth @ 600 RPM in D. Best 15.02/95.06 @ 5800' Bandimere (corrected 13.93/102.4 @ sea level).
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I have the TES headers and catback system with rpm muffler. It's ok except I keep blowing out collector gaskets about every 1 1/2 months. Gonna get expensive since edelbrock replacements cost 15 bucks from JEGS. I now wish I had just paid more and went with SLP stuff. Oh well I wasted my money I guess I'll just have to stick with these pieces of crap.
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Ok, so if they are only for SUV's and the such, does anybody make stock replacements and how do they compare to real headers?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fireturd350:
I have the TES headers ... I keep blowing out collector gaskets about every 1 1/2 months. Gonna get expensive since edelbrock replacements cost 15 bucks from JEGS. </font>
I have the TES headers ... I keep blowing out collector gaskets about every 1 1/2 months. Gonna get expensive since edelbrock replacements cost 15 bucks from JEGS. </font>
The gaskets to the heads are still cheap, though. Will be getting FelPro or something instead of using the supplied gaskets.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ChillPhatCat:
Ok, so if they are only for SUV's and the such, does anybody make stock replacements and how do they compare to real headers?</font>
Ok, so if they are only for SUV's and the such, does anybody make stock replacements and how do they compare to real headers?</font>
Buddy here runs corrected 13.3's through the ZZ3 manifolds (same thing as ZZ4) and dual cats in a full-up street car (smog legal, AC, PS, PW, PL, etc.). So, they can't be all that bad.
Oh yeah, I forgot, he had them extrude honed.
(Edit: Actually, he just told me that he took the diegrinder and opened up the ports to the heads. SLP's going on soon.)
Whatever...
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just get the 3" edelbrock TES's, then put a reducer in front of your cat, then if you want to upgrade the rest to a 3" later on, just take it off, thats what i was gonna do, but then i just got it all
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---Car---
89 Firebird/305 L03 TBI A4/t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter/Summit Chrome Valve Covers
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Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's/Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4
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Edelbrock TES headers 3" out/flowmaster American thunder 3" exaust/Catco HighFlow catco cat
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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird/305 L03 TBI A4/t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter/Summit Chrome Valve Covers
---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's/Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4
----Comming in a few days----
Edelbrock TES headers 3" out/flowmaster American thunder 3" exaust/Catco HighFlow catco cat
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Fireturd350....If you are blowing out those steel composite gaskets.. you have a much bigger problem. They are an OEM donut type of gasket very durable. I have reused mine 3 times and they have been on the car for over 2 yrs with no leaks. It would take a hammer and chisle to cut it. ![](https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/smile.gif)
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