Alright Someone Lend me a hand here.
Let me answer a few questions before i start asking
1) What am i looking for?
Complete Exhaust to get me the biggest gains and sound the sweetest
2) How much am i willing to pay?
If the system is pimpin, i'll trade my mother for it
3) What have i been looking at?

SLP Mufflex and Hooker
Now it's my turn
a) Headers
Hooker Super Comps VS SLP 4 into 1's 1 3/4"
Hooker is cheaper and i mean WAY cheaper right. Will i see hardcore differences? i mean are the slp headers really worth it... Im not too knowledgable in this area someone lend me a hand. I am willing to sacrifice horsepower now for a better system that wont be restrictive when i stroke and charge it (i'll need your help then too ) so i mean i'll be making 400 horse for sure.
b) Cat-back
I have my heart set on the new Mufflex 4" with dual outlets. But it's so ****ing expensive Is there anything as big? Will i need 4" in the 400hp+ arena? I understand i do. Are there any other solutions that will be just as good? Or is mufflex THE exhaust to beat?
c) Cat's
Now all my friends drive mustangs and when they installd an h pipe they gained 2 tenths in the quarter. Is this the case for our beloved f-bodies aswell?

The bottomline issue.. I've been phoninng around and everyone is biased i dont care what you say especially people that work at shops.. If they dont carry slp the hooker is better automatically and vice versa.
Im not worried about spending huge amounts of money on my baby.. But i am worried that im going out like a fool and buying a "name" I dont want to be the idiot that payed 900 while someone got an equal or better system for 700 ya hear me? Thanks ahead of time guys

Gta-Paladin
aka Thano
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89 Gta Trans Am. 350 TPI
I've got a K&n
Shutup it's a start

 

I'd give the Magnaflow Cat Back a try. I dunno how readily available they are up here in Canada, but they don't have any baffles or any real restrictions on them.

check the site www.magnaflow.com

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1991 Firebird Formula, 305, TPI, Auto...stock till I get some money!!!
Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP

 

Ok, thanks... i gave them a look.. still wonderin about the 4" though and any other 4" alternatives.

 

4" might actually be a bit too big...not sure on that, but one of the baord experts could fill ya in on that one!

If you have a chance though, check and see if the Magnaflow is available in your area.....I haven't found anyone who carries it around here yet and it wouldnt cost me too much to ship it from AB to BC

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1991 Firebird Formula, 305, TPI, Auto...stock till I get some money!!!
Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP

 

Honestly....hooker flows better than flowmaster mufflers. it supposedly gives more hp and torque than open pipes. mufflex sounds like a good system too. thought the best bang for the buck would honestly have to be hooker. about 200 bucks. the 1 3/4 long tubes from hooker kick *** . personally i think when you buy SLP you are buying the name. Hooker has been around since your parents birth....well atleast MY parents birth...early 60's.....really. these headers are pretty bad *** .....CHP made about 450 hp with em....charged. Random technology makes a really good cat for around 200. catco makes em for less about $100...dynomax makes em too....id go with RT. my setup that is currently being shipped is Hooker headers.....already have RT cat and hooker catback on the way too. all 3 inch. 3 inch should handle 450 hp no prob. good luck man

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 small block, Hooker 1 3/4 super comp long tubes, Random Tech Cat, Hooker aero chamber cat back on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window
www.geocities.com/esvalenz

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

Ok thanks, im leaning more towards the hooker super comps now.. Mufflex also offers Super comp headers with their systems so it may be the way to go.. Anyone else have any input for this one? SLP owners and Super Comp owners please message
Also is slp's 4 into 1 design so great?

 

GTA-Paladin,

Where did you get the idea that the Hooker Super Comps are way cheaper??? If we are talking about the Long Tube Super Comps then that statement is not true. Super Comp long tubes run $400 and they are not stainless. So, coating is mandatory if you don't want them to rust out (whereas the SLPs are stainless and won't rust out). Tack another $250 for coating. That equates to $650 for a set of long tubes. PLUS - the long tubes do not come with a Y-pipe. You need to purchase a Mufflex Y-pipe. The Y-pipe does not come welded together. It comes in parts and you need to have a shop weld it up. The Y-pipe is $250 from mufflex + installation if you don't have a welder.

That becomes $900 + welding for Super Comp long tubes as compared to $450 + $75 (installation kit) + welding for SLP headers.

Hooker = $900
SLP = $525

Now - I am a huge fan of the Super Comps. The long tubes have true 3" outlets as compared to the wimpy 2-1/4" outlets of the SLPs. SLP supplies a wimpy 2-1/4" Y-pipe as compared to the 3" Mufflex Y. BIG DIFFERENCE.

The Hookers have zero emissions provisions and will sacrifice ground clearance ... but, these babys will FLOW bigtime.

Tim

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TRAXION's 1990 IROC-Z
Best Time = 12.244 @ 112.51mph (1.778 60' / 7.819@88.32mph in the 1/8)
All Natural. No Force. No Drugs. Stock Bottom End. Stock Body Panels.
Gunning for NA 11's after installing Hooker LT Headers and reducing weight.
-=ICON Motorsports=-
Moderator: PROM board at thirdgen.org

 

Traxion, i called a company here in Calgary called Mopac, i guess i was mistaken. They agree with you that the Hooker Super comps are THE best headers i can purchase, but when i inquired about muffles they said "never heard of em" so i asked if they sold any 4" exhaust and the guy on the phone laughed at me, And asked why i'd want that big. Now i dont know too much about Cars and i havent even put any mods on my t/a yet but through my reading i was able to answer somewhat his question, so i said... apparently after 500 hp since these cars dont have true dual anything under 4" is really restrictive and he once again laughes. Am i making the wrong choice here? I've chosen my Headers, someone lend me a hand with the Exhaust plz Thanks.

p.s. Thanks Traxion for your input much appreciated

 

Ok, i called another company here in Calgary called unlimited performance and exhaust, these guys also say the 4" is too big, they also suggest the hooker super comps. They carry dynomax borla and all the other big names Im going to call Mufflex and see what is on their minds.

 

Cant get through to mufflex, but
i found this in their site

TPI-Y 02 Off Road Y Pipe for 82/92 3rd Generation F-Body Equiped With Hookertm S/C Long Tube Headers w/02 Bungtm Super Comp Headers.
TPI-Y 02 Price: $275.00 Plus S&H

So this is just the y pipe? Give it 325 with shipping... Is it worth it?

 

Theres a Mopac in Calgary??

I thought that was a Vancouver thing

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1991 Firebird Formula, 305, TPI, Auto...stock till I get some money!!!
Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP

 

There's one in Calgary, i thought it was a CAlgary thing...
You've proved me wrong

 

I checked their website...looks like we can both hit mopac!

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1991 Firebird Formula, 305, TPI, Auto...stock till I get some money!!!
Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP

 

Ok,

Here is the exhaust that I will be running on my IROC....

Hooker SuperComp Long Tubes
Mufflex 3" Y Pipe
Mufflex 4" Catback

The best PERFORMANCE header on the market is the Hooker Super Comp. However, definitely keep in mind that this header is not emissions compliant, it will cause you to lose some ground clearance, it is more difficult to install, and requires more exhaust fabrication.

If you are running 500RWHP+ then go with the 4" catback. 375-500rwhp use the 3-1/2". Under 375 then the standard 3" will work AOK. However, also keep in mind WHERE you are making this power. Higher RPM power will love the bigger exhaust.

Tim

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TRAXION's 1990 IROC-Z
Best Time = 12.244 @ 112.51mph (1.778 60' / 7.819@88.32mph in the 1/8)
All Natural. No Force. No Drugs. Stock Bottom End. Stock Body Panels.
Gunning for NA 11's after installing Hooker LT Headers and reducing weight.
-=ICON Motorsports=-
Moderator: PROM board at thirdgen.org

 

As a small correction to Tim's post, the Hooker Super Comp -Long Tube- headers are not emissions compliant, but their Super Comp -shorty- headers (model 2055) are fully emissions compliant for '87-92 single-cat F-bods. They have the air tubes, O2 sensor bung, and bolt right in. For tube sizes, they have 1 5/8" primaries, 2 1/2" down-tubes (the Y part of the Y-pipe), and 3" outlet at the cat.

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Greg Westphal
'87 IROC 305TPI/A4