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I have a 1986 ta with the 5.0l ho and 5 speed it no longer has the engine and tranny I like to put a 5 speed back in it but I don't know what engine to put back in it. Any ideas?
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camaronewbie

Welcome to TGO!

I'm no expert when it comes to the manual trannies, but from what I read alot on here, the 5sp was never offered with the 350 motor because it's not strong enough to handle it. Alot of folks have a 350 and 5sp combo and do fine, but it won't handle any abuse. If your wanting to spin tires, do clutch dumps, etc better stick with a 305. If your going to take it easy and baby it you can do a 350.

SBC is SBC - they're all the same physically on the outside - 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 all the same dimensions, so any will physically fit.

Keep in mind that you are limited to a 153 tooth flywheel (5sp bellhousing too small for a 168 tooth).

MassD

iTrader: (1)

I swapped a 350 into my 84 h.o. It is a stock small block and my tranny is holding up fine. And i dump the clutch every so often as well lol

five7kid

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86ta5spd5.0h.o, let me add my welcome to thirdgen.org.

But, let's get one thing out of the way - if your car is a 1986 model TA, the chances of it having an "HO" is somewhere between "slim" and "none", as out of 48,870 TA's sold in '86, only 26 had the "HO" L69 engine. The 8th character of the VIN would be "G". Many mistake the TPI engine as "HO", but all HO's actually had a carb.

Not that all that makes a lot of difference, just saying...

Now, what engine would I put back in?

You're a painter with a blank canvas. In your position, I would shoot the moon - look for an LS1/T56 drop-out. Yes, it is a little more work, and yes, it will probably cost a little more, but what you need to do it is well documented in the LS1 swap sticky in the top section of this forum. And the smile that will be on your face the first time you drive it, well...

86ta5spd5.0h.o

The vin is 1G2FW87G6GN235269 now it is a Canadian car

five7kid

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Wow, that would be rare, then.

Not sure how much value it would have as a collector, though. And, the original engine appears to be gone.

86ta5spd5.0h.o

Yup right now it's got a 355 and an auto but it's going in to my old mans '71 chevelle he said I could have the body I was think of put a 350 back in it but with a 5 speed I've heard that a 350 and a 5 speed would turn this car into a pretzel so how much hp can you put in this car and still have daily driver

stroker_SS

Pretzel? I swear some people would have you convinced that thirdgens are made of tin-foil.

Anyone that wants to put decent power through a thirdgens chassis usually knows enough to install sub-frame connectors, in which case the sky is the limit as far as power is concerned.

five7kid

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Well, maybe not the sky, but certainly anything that's streetable...

500 HP with subframe connectors and upgraded rears are pretty common. Poly suspension bushings all the way around also. T-top cars are a little easier to twist, but my originally-V6 non-T-top car had cracks in the top rear corner of the door windows - certainly not caused by power.

Depending upon your decision as to the value of the car as a one in 1880 - subframe connectors, then whatever engine/trans you feel comfortable installing.

Sure love my LS1's, though...

86ta5spd5.0h.o

Should I go carb or tpi

zraffz

carb.

and it will not twist like a pretzel. most people think the T5 was never combined with a 350 because the car couldn't handle an idiot dumping the clutch with the extra power; the real reason is the T5 couldn't safely handle the extra power.
I've seen a torque monster in a camaro (probably 550ish), no sub frames, t-tops... the doors always shut fine but the paint had stress cracks in the t-bar on the roof and the windshield had a crack; no idea if that was torque related or not.

86ta5spd5.0h.o

Yeah as much as I'd love to have a ls/lt or even a tpi I'd lean toward a carb nice and simple

86ta5spd5.0h.o

How much hp can you build a 2 bolt main up to

five7kid

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As much as is streetable.

five7kid

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Funny the 'Stang T5's can handle the power...

While we may never know the real reason, the best explanation I've heard is a T5 350 f-body would outrun the Vettes of the day.

zraffz

I've heard they are safe until 400-450 horse. If you break past that, you can always buy a main girdle or have it splayed.

zraffz

Aren't the 5.0s like 215 horse?
I think it was more or less a reliability issue with the extra power. I've heard some guys run them in mid 13 second cars but I didn't have that kind of luck with mine.

86ta5spd5.0h.o

The old mans got a 327 block and a 283 block in the shed and a set of double hump heads to

86ta5spd5.0h.o

Does any one know where I can see pics of the engine bay of a 5.0 h.o I'd like to put a 350 in it but have it look like the 5.0 that came in

five7kid

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Not hard at all. They look identical from the outside.

Assuming you use perimeter bolt valve covers.

86ta5spd5.0h.o

I've been think of building it to have 400hp so what is the best way of building a 350 up to 400hp

t.p.engineerin

1st all mustang t-5 cant handle much power either and the internals are pretty close on both 2nd i just recently got rid of a third gen with a 400hp 350. I had a 4 bolt main block bored .040 over mainly because the walls was shot, ported and polished double humps with larger stainless valves, the cam was a summit racing cam with 282/292 duration. It had a 750 double pump holley carb on it and a rpm intake also had headers and 3" exhaust. Thats prolli the cheapest easiest way to get 400hp in a 3rd gen also i couldnt keep the motor cool and it ate the 700r4 that only had 20,000mi a t5 wouldnt stand a chance i would do built th350, th400, t56 or a muncie 4speed