slow83sc

I'm thinking of converting my car to crossfire injection.
Can somebody give me an idea of how to hook the wires up, like in dummy terms, power, ground, ect.....
The injection system is coming from a 83 camaro.
Its going on a carbed vehicle.
Some guy has a setup in the classifieds and I was maybe going to purchase it if this can be done.

kboehringer

slow83sc,
Something doesn't seem right here... Your personal description says 2.8 2bbl? Cross-Fire was only offered on the 5.0 (305) V-8. How ya' gonna put that on a 2.8?

slow83sc

The "original" engine was a 2.8 2bbl.
The "new" engine might be a 305 cfi, or a roller 350.
I want to go with something exotic, other that an overrated, and overpriced tpi.

kboehringer

slow83sc,
Don't expect too much "Exotic" power out of a STOCK crossfire. It was only rated at 185HP in stock form.

I'm probably gonna get stomped by someone that LOVES the cross-fire but I'll say it anyway.... IMPO - The Cross-Fire was NOT GM's shining moment in the sun. There were multiple recalls on the system and it has been linked to multiple engine fires. I was in production for slightly more than 1 year.

I don't know about your area (although I am originally from N.E. PA and all my children were born in Wilkes-Barre) but cross-fire parts are pretty hard to find in the J.Yards here (I've personally NEVER seen one in a J.Yard). In PA with all the winter road salt and body rust you have to deal with, finding one in a J.Yard to get cheap replacement items is going to be even harder!

One of the other guys can probably suggest something more EXOTIC. IMPO - Think twice about crossfire...although I am sure someone will disagree, it's just my opinion.

Sincerely,
Kurt

MrDude_1

while it does look cool, im with kboehringer on that.... you dont want to stick CFI on any motor that you want to be faster then a L03..... lol

slow83sc

I'm not really out for the power, I'm out for something out of the ordinary.
The car that the cfi is going into was never meant for fuel injection, so it would really turn a few heads.
I'll probably just go with a polished intake and carb setup.

kboehringer

slow83sc,
IMPO - The carb is a much better choice than CFI - that's only my personal opinion....

Since you have to change or modify almost everything (for whatever you choose to upgrade to) Motor, Intake, Wiring Harness, Fuel System (Pump & Lines), etc. etc. Did you consider going with TBI (a single). Many people feel it is more reliable, driveable, and it is more fuel efficient than a Carb. It's also very EASY to find one in a J.Yard (compared to CFI). Just a thought.... But it's definately not EXOTIC and most changes will require PROM work.

Do you have Emissions Testing in your area of PA Yet?

kboehringer

Slow83sc,
Whatever you decide to put in the car you need to grab the entire wiring harness and bring it over to your car.... It look very difficult but it is not.

Bundle/Thread #1 - Monster bundle that goes behind the passenger side fire wall and connects to the computer. (O2 Sensor, Water Temp, Choke, EGR Module, Carb or TBI connections, couple other things)
Bundle/Thread #2 - Left side of Driver Side Firewall connector travels past brakes around the rear of the engine and connects to #1 in a couple places. (Starter, Wipers, Dizzy, etc.)
Bundle/Thread #3 - Right side of Driver Side down fender well runs all the front lighting (might not need that if the years are the same or very close) Grab it anyway!
Bundle/Thread #4 - Very small segment runs around the a/c fan area and into the car behind the engine into the heater & A/C controls. Again, can be skipped if the car years are the same assuming they both have (or don't have) a/c. Grab it anyway.

Lay out each of the strands and fix anything that's screwed up now before you install it.

Kurt

slow83sc

Thanks, for the info.
I'll be swapping over to carb soon, it seems easier.

1982TA

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I too am going with the CFI setup. I want to do it just to make my car look stock, and for something different. You don't see a lot of early 3rd gens, especially CFI cars. My engne is carbed right now but I want to convert it back to CFI. It is somewhat hard to find stuff...I'm going to need the harnesses also since mine are hacked/missing. It's possible to get some good power out of a CFI, but you'll want at least a 350. It depends on what you want. anyone can do a carb and it sounds like you wanted to do something different with your car. I would say go for it

kboehringer

1982TA & slow83sc,

To each his own I guess... My son and I also really wanted to create a showroom stock '82 Z-28. We might have given CFI more consideration if we had been able to find ANY parts in a J.Yard. Sure CFI (in stock form) is a 185hp dog, but we also thought it was very unique. I really don't care for my son having much HP anyway.

You should be able to find some good information at this site:

http://www.crossfire.homeip.net

IMPO One word of advice... FWIW, Make sure to do some research and get a good listing of all the recalls to make sure you have whatever fixes or modifications GM installed on, or made to the system. My son and I did not do any truly extensive research but I wish I had saved some of my notes to share with you. Unfortunately, I deleted the CFI sheet from the MSExcel Workbook we keep on our car.

We wish we had some parts to donate to your cause(s) but a previous owner removed 90% of the CFI. The handful of parts (quite literally) we had remaining were trashed. The only remaining remnant we have is the original fiberglass CFI hood with the original functional vents. We're not too interested in parting with the hood.

Good luck guys.....

Sincerely,
Kurt