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Old 09-14-2011 | 10:34 AM
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Headlight Wiring Question

I know this seems like a dumb and pointless question but is there any way to convert a HID Relay wiring harness to brighten my H4 conversion setup? I received an HID wiring harness form a friend the other day and realized that the plug end is a 2 prong setup instead of the normal 3 prong type plug. i was wondering is there any way i can convert this wiring harness to accommodate my h4 setup for my camaro. If not, is there a kit i can order online to help my dim headlights? or can i get a list of parts i will need to add relays to my headlights.
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

theres a thread on here somewhere about making a stand alone wiring harness. that would probably help with your dim lights.

without knowing exactly what the hid wiring kit is for, theres no way to give a definate answer to your question.

and stock lights have a 3 prong connector for the high beam and a 2 prong for the low beam
Old 09-15-2011 | 02:30 PM
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theres a thread on here somewhere about making a stand alone wiring harness. that would probably help with your dim lights.

without knowing exactly what the hid wiring kit is for, theres no way to give a definate answer to your question.

and stock lights have a 3 prong connector for the high beam and a 2 prong for the low beam
I know the stock wiring harness is 3 prong system. The kit I got is a 2 prong one. Not the same style as the stock high beam one. I was wondering if I could modify it to work with my stock harness. Ill try and get some pictures
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Read this item from the technical articles section. Lots of good stuff in there
https://www.thirdgen.org/headlightupgrade
Old 09-15-2011 | 06:46 PM
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thats the one i was referring to
Old 09-15-2011 | 09:37 PM
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Read this item from the technical articles section. Lots of good stuff in there
https://www.thirdgen.org/headlightupgrade
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thats the one i was referring to
I have that sheet guys and i have looked it over. Thanks for that.

Im attaching a picture of the kit i received, i wanted to know if i can convert this for my car or not.
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

the only use it would be to you would be the wires and the relay. the plugs wont work.
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It would make a good template for your own harness, but you'll need more wiring too unless you only use two lights
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im curious as to what the 3rd plug goes to.
Old 09-16-2011 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

If you mean that one with the black and blue wires, it would have to somehow plug into the trigger wires from the stock harness to turn on the lights I would think??
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thats what i thought, but it doesnt look like it would plug into anything on a 3rd gen harness.
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It won't, but this was clearly not designed for a third gen. No idea what it's intended purpose is. OP, what's this supposed to be for?
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

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It won't, but this was clearly not designed for a third gen. No idea what it's intended purpose is. OP, what's this supposed to be for?
it was suppose to be for and H4 HID upgrade but i realized now that the kit i got from a friend is totally wrong. so that's why i posted up if i could modify it to make it work for my car. i defiantly need more power going to the headlights because i have the H4 conversion and the lights are nice but don't produce and more light then the stock headlights.

if i cannot modify this kit i was going to use that page posted above to make my own harness. but reading that page becomes confusing at times so i was thinking of trying to find a kit online pre made. anyone see anything like that online?
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

i dont theres there a single "plug and play" harness for our cars for HID upgrades. so youre pretty much stuck making your own.
Old 09-17-2011 | 05:38 PM
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

Originally Posted by Camaros4Life
i was wondering is there any way i can convert this wiring harness to accommodate my h4 setup for my camaro. If not, is there a kit i can order online to help my dim headlights? or can i get a list of parts i will need to add relays to my headlights.
It's pricey, but you can get a plug and play harness for your H4 lights from these guys. I'm sure there are others, but this is one I remember

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1247
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

does it actually just plug into the headlight switch some how, or do you have to tap into those trigger wires?

it sayd it plugs into the stock headlamp connector, but that sounds like a bad way to trigger the system, since the headlight plug is on a relay. youre using a relay switched circuit to switch a relay....
Old 09-18-2011 | 03:29 PM
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

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It's pricey, but you can get a plug and play harness for your H4 lights from these guys. I'm sure there are others, but this is one I remember

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1247
thats only for a two headlight h4 setup, i need to make one for 4. it would be close to $180 for 2 kits thats way to pricey for me
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they have options in the pull down menu for 2 and 4 light harnesses
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Read the whole page. What you want is listed right there
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

If I read right, for a Camaro it looks like:

HL28220 - Upgrade Harness from 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Outer Lamps and H4 Inner Lamps with High Beam Only (Use with four Free Form Lamps

Base Price for all harnesses: $87.58
Plus Add: $36.32 for that one

Grand Total of $123.90

Or is it the HL28220HD, in which case does double (adds another $87.58 to the base $87.58) the price?

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Old 09-18-2011 | 08:26 PM
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

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Or is it the HL28220HD, in which case does double (adds another $87.58 to the base $87.58) the price?
My guess for the "extra heavy duty" in the part number - they wired the other set of H4 as high beam only and connected the two positive leads together for 115 watts on a 60/55W HI/LO bulb, burning both filaments at the same time. I did this to my H4 high beams, but rarely use them, the housings aren't rated for the power, and when I do, I get blinded by the reflective paint on the road signs
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Re: Headlight Wiring Question

Originally Posted by BlackenedBird
If I read right, for a Camaro it looks like:

HL28220 - Upgrade Harness from 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Outer Lamps and H4 Inner Lamps with High Beam Only (Use with four Free Form Lamps

Base Price for all harnesses: $87.58
Plus Add: $36.32 for that one

Grand Total of $123.90

Or is it the HL28220HD, in which case does double (adds another $87.58 to the base $87.58) the price?
$123.90 for a wiring harness is insane. i would not pay that just to make my headlights brighter. i rather make it from scratch it would cost 1/10 of that overall i realized after i posted that that there were other options, i was doing it from my blackberry so i didnt see everything else
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