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Old 08-12-2009 | 11:49 AM
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Key glitch problem....starting

hello im new at thirdgen.org

im a owner of a 1972 nova and recently bought a 1989 camaro rs v8

i purchased this car knowing it needed some work and got to it right away

but the real problem is .....i put the key in a try turning it on and nothing
but if u put the key in and wait like 1 minute then turn it turns on boom right away... how do i remove that any ideas...??
Old 08-12-2009 | 11:00 PM
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Re: Key glitch problem....starting

Sounds like your VATS sensor in the ignition switch is wearing down.

VATS is Vehicle Anti Theft System. Your key should have what most call a "chip" in it = it's a small black pellet - it is actually a resistor. There is a box under the dash that looks for the correct resistance before the car will start.

Inside the ignition switch, there are 2 prongs that are spring-loaded, so that when the key is inserted, the pellet on the key seperate these prongs, and thus the prongs are tight against the pellet and "read" the resistance of the pellet. These prongs wear out - the springs go bad after years and years of being used.

Best fix - get a new lock cylinder from Carquest (about $50), and replace the lock. The new lock will come with a plastic blank, so take it to Ace Hardware with the original key, and have them cut a new set of keys using the new blank (plastic key) with the resistance from the old key.

Or, you can bypass the VATS altogether - read here:

https://www.thirdgen.org/vats
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https://www.thirdgen.org/vats_passkey_system
Old 08-13-2009 | 01:05 AM
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Re: Key glitch problem....starting

bypass it trust me HELL OF A LOT EASYIER
Old 08-13-2009 | 01:39 PM
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Re: Key glitch problem....starting

thanks man
yeah i knew it had something to do with the key security

im going to bypass way easier for in the future to find problems and stuff narrowing it down to starter and stuff u know what i mean thanks ill put pix up soon just finished grinding away at underbody rust and undercoatinf and did some bondo work about to do tune up oil change and belt change and new tires later on =D ooh and does she go faaasst..it didnt come with a muffler so she rooooarrs! lol
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