Alarm- adding windows rollup
04-16-2002, 04:42 AM
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Alarm- adding windows rollup
Before I spend HOURS tracing the LH and RH windows roll up wires, does anyone know where I can easily (??!!) access these?
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04-16-2002, 08:25 PM
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thirdgen power windows use a "reverse polarity, rest at nothing system" not the typical "reverse polarity, rest at ground system".
if installing one of the ebay $15 window rollups specials, you'll need to wire in an extra relay to make the wire rest at ground instead of nothing when the rollup is engaged.
if installing one of the ebay $15 window rollups specials, you'll need to wire in an extra relay to make the wire rest at ground instead of nothing when the rollup is engaged.
04-16-2002, 08:41 PM
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Make: Pontiac
Model: Firebird, Trans Am
Year: 1985-92
Alarm
Function Color Location
Constant 12 volts RED & RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT PIN SWITCH OR COURTESY LIGHT
Trunk Pin Switch WHITE OR BLK/ORG (-) AT CARGO COMPARTMENT LIGHT
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT LIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock L BLUE DRIVER KICK #202
Power Unlock BLACK PANEL
#202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.
Accessories
Function Color Location
Window Up D\ D BLUE P\ L BLUE @ MAIN #213
Window Down R/ BROWN S/ TAN SWITCH
Ign Key Warn L GREEN (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Trunk Release BLACK (+) AT RELEASE SWITCH * #231
OEM Horn BLACK (-) STERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
OEM Alarm Arm N/A
OEM Alarm Disarm L GREEN (-) IN EITHER KICK PANEL
#213- See Reversal Rest At Nothing Power Window Circuit Diagram.
#231- See Positive Pulse Trunk Release Diagram.
* Trunk Release Has Also Been Found As BROWN (-) At Trunk Release Switch (From Install).
Remote Start
Function Color Location
Tach Signal WHITE AT DISTRIBUTOR OR DASH TACHOMETER *
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3 N/A
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety ORANGE/BLACK (-) GEAR SELECT SWITCH
Brake Light L BLUE OR YELLOW (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) GEAR SELECT SWITCH
Rear Window Defrost
* Some V-6 & V-8 Models Are Electronic Fuel Injected. Rest Are Throttle Body Injected.
Make: Pontiac
Model: Firebird, Trans Am
Year: 1985-92
Alarm
Function Color Location
Constant 12 volts RED & RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT PIN SWITCH OR COURTESY LIGHT
Trunk Pin Switch WHITE OR BLK/ORG (-) AT CARGO COMPARTMENT LIGHT
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT LIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock L BLUE DRIVER KICK #202
Power Unlock BLACK PANEL
#202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.
Accessories
Function Color Location
Window Up D\ D BLUE P\ L BLUE @ MAIN #213
Window Down R/ BROWN S/ TAN SWITCH
Ign Key Warn L GREEN (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Trunk Release BLACK (+) AT RELEASE SWITCH * #231
OEM Horn BLACK (-) STERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
OEM Alarm Arm N/A
OEM Alarm Disarm L GREEN (-) IN EITHER KICK PANEL
#213- See Reversal Rest At Nothing Power Window Circuit Diagram.
#231- See Positive Pulse Trunk Release Diagram.
* Trunk Release Has Also Been Found As BROWN (-) At Trunk Release Switch (From Install).
Remote Start
Function Color Location
Tach Signal WHITE AT DISTRIBUTOR OR DASH TACHOMETER *
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3 N/A
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety ORANGE/BLACK (-) GEAR SELECT SWITCH
Brake Light L BLUE OR YELLOW (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) GEAR SELECT SWITCH
Rear Window Defrost
* Some V-6 & V-8 Models Are Electronic Fuel Injected. Rest Are Throttle Body Injected.
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04-16-2002, 11:36 PM
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Make: Pontiac
Model: Firebird, Trans Am
Year: 1982-84
Alarm
Function Color Location
Constant 12 volts RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT PIN SWITCH
Trunk Pin Switch WHITE (-) AT TRUNK LIGHT OR SWITCH
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT LIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock L BLUE DRIVER KICK #202
Power Unlock BLACK PANEL
#202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.
Accessories
Function Color Location
Window Up D\ D BLU P\ D BLU/WHT @ MAIN #213
Window Down R/ BRN S/ TAN SWITCH
Ign Key Warn L GREEN (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Trunk Release N/A
OEM Horn BLACK (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
OEM Alarm Arm N/A
OEM Alarm Disarm N/A
#213- See Reversal Rest At Nothing Power Window Circuit Diagram.
Remote Start
Function Color Location
Tach Signal WHITE DISTRIBUTOR *
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3 N/A
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety ORANGE/BLACK (-) SWITCH BELOW CONSOLE
Brake Light L BLUE (+) SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) SWITCH BELOW CONSOLE
Rear Window Defrost
* Some Models Carburated.
Make: Pontiac
Model: Firebird, Trans Am
Year: 1982-84
Alarm
Function Color Location
Constant 12 volts RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT PIN SWITCH
Trunk Pin Switch WHITE (-) AT TRUNK LIGHT OR SWITCH
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT LIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock L BLUE DRIVER KICK #202
Power Unlock BLACK PANEL
#202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.
Accessories
Function Color Location
Window Up D\ D BLU P\ D BLU/WHT @ MAIN #213
Window Down R/ BRN S/ TAN SWITCH
Ign Key Warn L GREEN (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Trunk Release N/A
OEM Horn BLACK (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
OEM Alarm Arm N/A
OEM Alarm Disarm N/A
#213- See Reversal Rest At Nothing Power Window Circuit Diagram.
Remote Start
Function Color Location
Tach Signal WHITE DISTRIBUTOR *
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3 N/A
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety ORANGE/BLACK (-) SWITCH BELOW CONSOLE
Brake Light L BLUE (+) SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) SWITCH BELOW CONSOLE
Rear Window Defrost
* Some Models Carburated.
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Make: Pontiac
Model: Firebird, Trans Am
Year: 1997
Alarm
Function Color Location
Constant 12 volts RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT BODY CONTROL MODULE *
Trunk Pin Switch ORANGE/BLACK (-) AT BODY CONTROL MODULE *
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock RED/BLACK AT BODY CONTROL #228
Power Unlock ORG/BLK & GRAY/BLACK MODULE **
* Body Control Module (BCM) Located Behind Passenger Dash Below Glove
Box. WHITE (-) Wire At BCM Covers Both Front Doors And Trunk. Optional
(-) Door Trigger, GRAY/BLACK (Dr) & BLACK/WHITE (Ps) (-) At BCM. Diode
Isolation Needed, Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces OEM Wires.
** Refer To "TECH" Notes For Additional Information On Power Door Lock System.
#228- See 1996-97 Camaro/Firebird Door Lock Diagram.
Accessories
Function Color Location
Window Up D\ D BLUE P\ L BLUE @ MAIN #211
Window Down R/ BROWN S/ TAN SWITCH
Ign Key Warn L GREEN (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Trunk Release BLACK/WHITE (+) AT HATCH RELEASE RELAY * #231
OEM Horn BLACK (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH **
OEM Alarm Arm N/A SEE NOTES ***
OEM Alarm Disarm N/A BELOW
#211- See Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit Diagram.
* Due To Accessory Power Loss At Body Control Module, BLACK/WHITE (-) At Trunk Release Switch Can Not Be Used For Trunk Release. Must Access BLACK/ WHITE (+) At Trunk Release Relay Behind Passenger Dash.
** YELLOW (+) Wire Also Located In 48 Pin Conn. To Left Of Steering Column.
#231- See Positive Pulse Trunk Release Diagram.
*** See "TECH" Notes.
Remote Start
Function Color Location
Tach Signal WHITE AT POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE * #237
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC)
Ignition #3 N/A
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety ORANGE/BLACK (-) AT SW. ON BASE OF GEAR SELECT SW. **
Brake Light L BLUE (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) AT SW. ON BASE OF GEAR SELECT SW.
Rear Window Defrost N/A TIMER BUILT INTO SWITCH
* 8 Cylinder Engine Tach Wire Is WHITE At Powertrain Control Module On Passenger Rear Of Engine Compartment. 6 Cylinder Engine Tach Wire Is WHITE At Ignition Coil Module On Driver Side Of Engine. WHITE Tach Wire On Both Can Also Be Found In 10 Pin Blue Connector In Passenger Kick Panel.
** ORANGE/BLACK (-) Wire Can Also Be Found In 10 Pin Blue Connector In Passenger Kick Panel.
#237- See G.M. VATS System Diagram.
** Due To Accessory Power Loss At The Body Control Module (BCM) Power Door Locks Will Become Inoperable 35 Seconds After Last Door Is Closed Upon Exiting The Vehicle. The BCM Will Remain Without Power Until Either Door Is Opened Which "Wakes Up" The BCM. This Situation Can Be Resolved Simply By Sending A Negative Pulse To The GRAY/BLACK Driver Door Trigger Input Wire In The 32 Pin Blue Connector At The BCM At The Same Time As The ORANGE/BLACK Unlock Wire. Please See Note #228.
*** OEM Arm Not Known At This Time. OEM Alarm Must See Correct Resistor Across VATS Wires And 12 VDC (+) On PINK Ignition Wire Within 8 Seconds Of Opening Door To Disarm Alarm.
Model: Firebird, Trans Am
Year: 1997
Alarm
Function Color Location
Constant 12 volts RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT BODY CONTROL MODULE *
Trunk Pin Switch ORANGE/BLACK (-) AT BODY CONTROL MODULE *
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock RED/BLACK AT BODY CONTROL #228
Power Unlock ORG/BLK & GRAY/BLACK MODULE **
* Body Control Module (BCM) Located Behind Passenger Dash Below Glove
Box. WHITE (-) Wire At BCM Covers Both Front Doors And Trunk. Optional
(-) Door Trigger, GRAY/BLACK (Dr) & BLACK/WHITE (Ps) (-) At BCM. Diode
Isolation Needed, Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces OEM Wires.
** Refer To "TECH" Notes For Additional Information On Power Door Lock System.
#228- See 1996-97 Camaro/Firebird Door Lock Diagram.
Accessories
Function Color Location
Window Up D\ D BLUE P\ L BLUE @ MAIN #211
Window Down R/ BROWN S/ TAN SWITCH
Ign Key Warn L GREEN (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Trunk Release BLACK/WHITE (+) AT HATCH RELEASE RELAY * #231
OEM Horn BLACK (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH **
OEM Alarm Arm N/A SEE NOTES ***
OEM Alarm Disarm N/A BELOW
#211- See Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit Diagram.
* Due To Accessory Power Loss At Body Control Module, BLACK/WHITE (-) At Trunk Release Switch Can Not Be Used For Trunk Release. Must Access BLACK/ WHITE (+) At Trunk Release Relay Behind Passenger Dash.
** YELLOW (+) Wire Also Located In 48 Pin Conn. To Left Of Steering Column.
#231- See Positive Pulse Trunk Release Diagram.
*** See "TECH" Notes.
Remote Start
Function Color Location
Tach Signal WHITE AT POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE * #237
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC)
Ignition #3 N/A
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety ORANGE/BLACK (-) AT SW. ON BASE OF GEAR SELECT SW. **
Brake Light L BLUE (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) AT SW. ON BASE OF GEAR SELECT SW.
Rear Window Defrost N/A TIMER BUILT INTO SWITCH
* 8 Cylinder Engine Tach Wire Is WHITE At Powertrain Control Module On Passenger Rear Of Engine Compartment. 6 Cylinder Engine Tach Wire Is WHITE At Ignition Coil Module On Driver Side Of Engine. WHITE Tach Wire On Both Can Also Be Found In 10 Pin Blue Connector In Passenger Kick Panel.
** ORANGE/BLACK (-) Wire Can Also Be Found In 10 Pin Blue Connector In Passenger Kick Panel.
#237- See G.M. VATS System Diagram.
** Due To Accessory Power Loss At The Body Control Module (BCM) Power Door Locks Will Become Inoperable 35 Seconds After Last Door Is Closed Upon Exiting The Vehicle. The BCM Will Remain Without Power Until Either Door Is Opened Which "Wakes Up" The BCM. This Situation Can Be Resolved Simply By Sending A Negative Pulse To The GRAY/BLACK Driver Door Trigger Input Wire In The 32 Pin Blue Connector At The BCM At The Same Time As The ORANGE/BLACK Unlock Wire. Please See Note #228.
*** OEM Arm Not Known At This Time. OEM Alarm Must See Correct Resistor Across VATS Wires And 12 VDC (+) On PINK Ignition Wire Within 8 Seconds Of Opening Door To Disarm Alarm.
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Re: Alarm- adding windows rollup
so now I am installing a window module and have ran into the same problem, could someone tell me how to wire a relay to ground the switches to make the module work?
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