lakeffect2

Has anyone tried the new Moates Tunerview II yet. A search here does not bring up any hits for it.



Might look sharp in the new dash I'm working on.

http://www.moates.net/tunerview-ii-l...kit-p-223.html

Six_Shooter

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I'm using one in my Datsun with $59, have been for a couple months now.

It's really nice to have the data on my dash that I do.

1tpi

Is this something new?

Six_Shooter

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The application to being used with GM ECMs using $8D and $59 is. The TV II has been used with Honda ECMs for a while now.

87350IROC

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Man I would love to get this, if only it worked with 6E

lakeffect2

I'm working with $8d, as are so many here with speed density systems. What I don't grasp yet is if this is a standalone hardware/software application that works in conjunction with my 730 ECM or because of the notation of USB (which is not a part of a 730ECM) on Moates website as to whether this requires an interface such as a laptop. hooked up to the ALDL, and then transferring the Dash display via USB. It appears to need something in between as there is a note saying "via NEW ALDLink interface", but I couldn't find more info on that either. If ALDLink is put into the Moates search bar, the item hit is back to the Tunerview II where you started.

So this is a bit unclear to me as to what the true parts list needed and *total cost of installation is s to make this happen from the 730 data stream to that spot on my dash where I'd like to mount it. (*TOTAL COST: not counting the expense of hospitalization for removing it from the hole where my wife would like to mount it when it shows up on my doorstep)

I can't say I understand the data linking process going on here yet. If you have info to share and enlighten, please do so. Thanks, Dave

spade

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^what he said

Six_Shooter

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The connection is extremely simple.

What you get, when you order it for the $59/$8D application is the TV II in your chosen colour and size, and a CABL1, a 4 pin cable that plugs into the TV II in the "daisy" port (middle port of the 3, you'll see), and a small box that looks a lot like the ALDU1, in fact it has the same sticker on it, at least for the early releases, I'm sure Craig will get a specific sticker made up for the ALDLink, at some point.

You will need to add a 12V ignition wire to your ALDL port, I don't recall the pin off hand, but the same one that some systems, I believe MAF TPI in the 'Vettes, used for fuel pump voltage monitoring at the ALDL. You simple plug the CABL1 into your ALDL port after adding the wire, plug the other end of the CABL1 into the ALDLink box, the 4 pin cable then goes between the ALDLink box and the TV II unit. The TV II also has a USB connection on it that you use for programming the TV II and pass-through datalogging.





ALDLink box:


The 4 pin cable end, which is the only external difference from the ALDU1:


In my 1973 Datsun:


I am running a 1227749 ECM, with $59, DIS, an Ostrich 2.0, on an '81 or '82 Nissan/Datsun 2.8L I6, that I have also turbocharged.

The TV II is just awesome! I want to buy a second one and have more items displayed, or an RD1, which is a fancier TV II. Multiple displays can be daisy chained to display many things at once.

lakeffect2

For a second, when I saw the $59, I was thinking "ALL that for only Fifty-nine Dollars?" until I realized it was the mask code.

It appears that all the parts you've mentioned come with it. It's still quite a bargain at $139.00. I 'll have to send my letter to Santa real soon!

Six_Shooter

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The $139 is for the small blue TV II, the larger sizes or other colours add some cost. I bought the large yellow/green display.

I'm thinking about getting a small yellow/green display to daisy off this one.

The large display really is quite large, the small display might have been more than enough, but when I drew each one out, on a piece of paper, the small one seemed to be too small, after seeing the large one, I'd have to think it wouldn't be. lol

Send Craig an e-mail about the ALDLink, before you order, just to make sure he has more and all the details. Craig included the ALDLink with my order, since I was doing some $59 testing for him and JR, still am, when needed, to be honest.

I did find in my case I needed to change the R1 jumper to a 5 ohm resistor, since on hot days, the power supply in the ALDLink would overheat and cause the TV II to flash. Since my TV II and ALDLink is not permanently installed (yet), I was able to pick up the ALDLink and blow into it, to cool it down. I did this before adding that resistor, while doing some initial testing. I was able to measure temps inside the ALDLink box at 180* F! I have a DMM with a temp probe. I haven't measured since, but have not has a problem. Ambient temps have also gone down, so I don't expect any problems even without the resistor change. The days I had these flashing issues were in the 90s+ ambient and no A/C.
The R1 jumper or resistor is to control the brightness of the display. Some units that support brightness control have a transistor installed here and attached to a third point. The brightness can be controlled through the TV II itself on those units.

lakeffect2

So If I have the Tunverview 2 hooked up, am I correct in thinking I don't need to access my GM ALDLl port anymore? Sounds like I can take the USB link out from the Tunerview 2 and access the data stream that way instead. YES/NO?

SInce my new center console is under construction, I'd like to plan ahead.

Edit... let me point out I use a Prominator as well. It doesn't seem that I would lose lose my connectivity to it, since that is via a different cable.

Six_Shooter

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Correct, the TV II plugs directly into the ALDL port. You can then datalog by connecting to the to USB port on the TV II.

Shouldn't have any effect on the Prominator. I use an Ostrich 2.0 myself.

scuzz

So you can plug laptop USB in output and log with Tunerpro or Datamaster?

Six_Shooter

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To Tuner Pro, Yes. No idea about Datamaster, but would imagine so.

oramac91

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am ten hut looking at that.

lakeffect2

Since it's been over a year since anyone has added any posts to this thread, I'd like to hear from anyone who now is making use of the Tunerview 2 on an OBD1 system ($8D)

I'm on the fence to make use of this little gadget, but would like more input from the forum first.

Six_Shooter

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I'm still using mine...

I'm still trying to learn C++ so that I can make my own though, and have support for something other than Honda, where the Tunerview II is concerned.

I think if it wasn't for the fact that I removed my temp gauge in my dash, I'd likely not be using my Tunerview II. I have ECT displayed on the TV II.

lakeffect2

Well, I ordered my Tunerview tuner View tofay from Moates, along with the proper cable (CABL1) and convertor box (ALDU1).

I had a video screen in my dash, but frankly have never used it, so i struck me that a better live monitoring would be a good replacement for the hole that's there. It's only money!

(Six Shooter doesn't know it yet, But since he's the other other guy on this forum I know of that has one hooked to a GM ecm, he's about to be my best friend!)

Six_Shooter

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Did you talk to Moates before ordering? It's not an ALDU1 that you need, but an ALDLink. http://www.moates.net/tunerview-rd1-...interface.html

lakeffect2

Thanks for asking. Yes I have been in contact via Email.

From the original response I got the ALDL Link as the answer.

I subsequently mentioned that I did not want to lose my connectivity to the laptop for data logging simultaneously while the Tunerview 2 was in use. Additionally I mentioned I did not care if the final connection to the laptop was through the original 9 pin jack or via USB, but that my laptop is limited to USB 1, not 2.

They came back with the ALDU1 as the answer. Would either have worked equally well, with it being just a matter of input ports?

Dave

Six_Shooter

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Uhhh...

You can datalog through the TunerView II, in fact, it's the only way you can datalog, while the TV II is connected.

Only one device can be connected to the ALDL port at a time.

lakeffect2

So you can "record" a data logging session after it passes through the Tunerview? That should be fine, even if there is a slight lag, as I would be viewing the data at a later date anyway.

lakeffect2

It's enroute. I had a nice correspondence with Craig Moates and got straightened out on what I needed for what I wanted to do. The original tech did not seem to catch on to the point of using the USB port to go to my laptop for datalogging when I was asking about similtaneous use of the Tunerview 2 and datalogging at the same time. He was insistent it could not be done from the ALDL port.
I didn't care where it could not be done from, I wanted to know where it CAN be done from. Apparently he wasn't aware of the USB port's ability to pass through the signal.

The display unit arrived today. The pieces from Moates should be here soon.

Thanks for the help and info.

lakeffect2

Well. for far I have it installed, and it lights up. But just keeps saying "Connecting"

Can't load the my screens into it. I download the drivers, but it keeps asking for drivers, so I don't know what the issue is exact operator error is that I'm making. I don't understanding how I get the ECM, laptop and tuner view to communicate with each other properly, com ports, active drivers. I'm at a loss.

Any help would be most welcome here.

Six_Shooter

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Do you have it daisy chain mode, or regular mode? You need to switch between each to load the firmware to it, and switch to the other to datalog. I just don't recall which is which right now.

lakeffect2

I can't say that I've been aware aware of a difference to begin with. information seems to be in limited supply. I got parts. No instructions. The HRTuning site seems to leave a lot to be desired in terms of info.

Supposedly, in your laptop, you create the mix of data that you want to see, and upload it to the Tunerview via the USB port on the top of the unit. I created the "dash" with GM $8D. When I hit "CONNECT" it seems to search for a few seconds then goes back to disconnected again. Most times the program button is grayed out. When it's not, it still shows no sign of connection.

It's on Com Port 1 as best I can tell ( not a computer wiz here)
as no other com port seems to show any inkling of detection of the TV2 unit.

Dave