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Old 06-15-2010, 02:52 PM
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LM-1 question

I recently purchased a new sensor and DB guage so I could hide the controller under the dash. My LM-1 is a permanent installation

Noticed today when datalogging that my db gauge was always 3 points higher than what I was getting on my datalog screen (ebl). I went in and reprogrammed analog 2 (db gauge) to the 0 volts = 7.35 and 5 volts =22.39. Then click program.
Set up the laptop again my controller and gauge matched but my ecm was still different. Went into my analog 1 output (output to ecm) and reprogrammed the same numbers as analog 2.
Just for the heck of it I went back to analog 2 to double check that my settings were correct. They weren't, it reverted back to the 1 and 2 volt scales.

My question is this... once you program it should it always read on your screen what you saved it as or does it always revert back to the factory setting?

This may be the problem I've been having all along... I'm thinking my controller may be bad.
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Re: LM-1 question

I think this issue has been reported more than once. I think RBob has responded to it previously.
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Re: LM-1 question

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I think this issue has been reported more than once. I think RBob has responded to it previously.
Issues with why the wibeband doesn't match the N2O yes. It wasn't until I installed the new DB gauge that it was realized that none of my outputs of the LM-1 match the controller.
They're all different. My question orginal was what may cause this. However I called Innovate and they feel that the controller itself is bad. So I shipped it to them so they can repair it. This may very well be the overall problem that I've been having for the past year.

Thanks for the reply Ron.
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Re: LM-1 question

My DB gauge matches the controller. I never patched the A/F into EBL datalogs. some day I will.
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Re: LM-1 question

I got the LM-1 control back from, they claim its fixed.
Put it back in today and the same thing.
LM-1 control doesn't match, Analog output 1 (ECM), nor output 2(DB gauge).
Programed the A/F according to there directions for 0 volts = 7.35 and 5 volts = 22.39
I'm using the EBL/Flash which that is set up to Innovate 0-5 volts.

Can someone please confirm that I'm programming the LM-1 to the right voltages?
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Re: LM-1 question

Originally Posted by slrvette
I got the LM-1 control back from, they claim its fixed.
Put it back in today and the same thing.
LM-1 control doesn't match, Analog output 1 (ECM), nor output 2(DB gauge).
Programed the A/F according to there directions for 0 volts = 7.35 and 5 volts = 22.39
I'm using the EBL/Flash which that is set up to Innovate 0-5 volts.

Can someone please confirm that I'm programming the LM-1 to the right voltages?
Using the built in AFR range/volts of the WUD. The Innovate 0-5V is:

0V = 10:1 AFR
5V = 20:1 AFR

Note that with version 2.2 or higher of the WUD, you can create user devices. With this you can specify the desired AFR and voltage for each end point. Along with any other 0 - 5V linear device.

RBob.
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Re: LM-1 question

Thanks Bob. All 3 are now within .3 so I'm gonna leave it.

BTW.. I'm getting there with the tune. Its better. I also found the TPS was reading irracticley so once that got settled its been getting better.
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Re: LM-1 question

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Thanks Bob. All 3 are now within .3 so I'm gonna leave it.

BTW.. I'm getting there with the tune. Its better. I also found the TPS was reading irracticley so once that got settled its been getting better.
Been there, done that with flaky sensors. They will drive you crazy.

Note that the WUD Diagnostic display shows the raw sensor values. This is important to understand. The other WUD displays will/can show defaulted sensor values. This is where the ECM thinks that a sensor is bad and makes up a value.

Which is why it is important to use the Diagnostic display to check the actual sensor values.

And, if you don't mind me adding, the CTS sensor is the most important, and the least reliable sensor for EFI. They tend to allow moisture to seep into the connector which corrodes it. This then creates a false reading.

When replacing the CTS, always replace the pigtail with it.

The other most important for EFI is the fuel pressure/delivery.

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Re: LM-1 question

I would rather the EBL run the gauge.
Parallel circuits are very dynamic, load sensitive.
It sounds like you are happy w/results (cal/settings) now.

I'm using the same EBL input settings , no problems.

What for the LM-1, when you have an EBL??

I let the EBL handle WB AFR reports, seems to a perfect job, so..
I don't need no stinking gauge distracting/confusing me.
Listen & feel while you drive. Mark points of concern.

The data I need is in the log.

one day I'll get a post right & not have to edit..it..right

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