DIY PROM Do It Yourself PROM chip burning help. No PROM begging. No PROMs for sale. No commercial exchange. Not a referral service.

About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-24-2008, 11:12 PM
  #1  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
1MeanZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: North Central Indiana
Posts: 2,984
Received 36 Likes on 28 Posts
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 383
Transmission: TKO 600
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44 IRS
About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

I have a 383 with superram 219 cam. It was previously tuned by Jamy Lippencott. I'm ready to start tuning myself and I know my tune is already pretty close but I want to do some tweaking.

My first question is how do I know I have the correct XDF file? I dont know if the .bin I have is a $6E, $32, or ARAP. Is it appropriate to change the XDF file while tuning to bring up the tables I want to change? It appears there may be a way to make my own XDF in TunerPro, but I havent tried it yet. I guess I dont have a full understanding of what the XDF does yet. It seems that it is a tool to allow TunerPro to decode the .bin you're trying to modify. I just want to make sure I'm using the correct XDF before I start tuning. I want to know that I have all of the appropriate tables, scalars, and flags at my finger tips before I start tuning.

I have read the stickys at the top 3 times and I'll keep going through them. Right now answers to my questions will help with relax my learning curve here. Thanks guys.
Old 04-24-2008, 11:58 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (20)
 
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 25,762
Received 372 Likes on 301 Posts
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: Strange 12 bolt 3.42
Re: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

the XDF has to match the system your using. IF your using the 6E MAF system that the 89's had, you need the 6E XDF. 86-88 had the 32B i believe it is. arap, aujl, and other codings like that are just BIN files that are read by the 6E XDF. XDF decodes the BIN file to allow you to read whats in that file basically

i'm not sure how you could tell what bin is loaded on your chip. You'd have to read it and save the bin file to the computer and go into tunerpro and open up different XDF files to look at the bin and see if it looks correct or not. Use the compare feature to compare your bin to the other known bins for stock 86-89 cars. Its gotta be either 32B or 6E XDF file tho
Old 04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
1MeanZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: North Central Indiana
Posts: 2,984
Received 36 Likes on 28 Posts
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 383
Transmission: TKO 600
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44 IRS
Re: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

thanks so much for the info. I deleted the cold start injector and I'm 99.9% sure that Jamy used the 6E bin for the '89s. I did mess around with different XDF files and I was getting different tables available to me.
Old 02-01-2010, 10:33 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
 
jobambjmb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 IROC-Z28
Engine: L98 5.7L
Transmission: 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi.
Re: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

just wondering what tables did you change? im using 6E for my 87 ecm 165, read and saved data loging, modified my new bin almost ready to burn just need to know what tables to use to change for bigger fuel pump if any?
Old 02-01-2010, 10:45 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
jobambjmb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 IROC-Z28
Engine: L98 5.7L
Transmission: 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi.
Re: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

trying to find a close bin to start off with was too hard tried messing around with some of moates fileads found one thought was close but when the car started idled great but as soon as i stepped on it ran like crap, so i changed i back figured i better start with the data from prom its running on hypertech currently and is runnable around town but need to modify to get full potenial out of upgrades.
Old 02-02-2010, 04:28 AM
  #6  
Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Duts87ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ocean Springs, MS
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Monte Carlo SS
Engine: HSR 383 AFR180/268XFI EBL
Transmission: 200-4R, Edge 2800 L/U
Axle/Gears: 7.5/3.73/PowerTrax No-Slip
Re: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

Originally Posted by jobambjmb
just wondering what tables did you change? im using 6E for my 87 ecm 165, read and saved data loging, modified my new bin almost ready to burn just need to know what tables to use to change for bigger fuel pump if any?
No change needed for a fuel pump. The regulator keeps the pressure where it needs to be.
Old 02-02-2010, 06:54 AM
  #7  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
1MeanZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: North Central Indiana
Posts: 2,984
Received 36 Likes on 28 Posts
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 383
Transmission: TKO 600
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44 IRS
Re: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.

Originally Posted by jobambjmb
just wondering what tables did you change? im using 6E for my 87 ecm 165, read and saved data loging, modified my new bin almost ready to burn just need to know what tables to use to change for bigger fuel pump if any?

How do you expect us to help you with anything when we don't have a clue what is done to the engine? Have you read all the FAQ threads and done searches to find the info you're looking for?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Azrael91966669
DIY PROM
25
06-20-2017 04:04 AM
thefirebirdm@n
South Central Region
3
09-14-2015 01:45 PM
NBrehm
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
1
08-25-2015 11:49 PM
85Iroc-Z
Power Adders
18
08-13-2015 01:58 AM
mizz0313
Transmissions and Drivetrain
3
08-12-2015 06:45 AM



Quick Reply: About to tune a MAF car, want to make sure basics are covered.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:56 AM.