Craig Moates

Folks,

I was thinking of migrating a version of my ALDL scanning program to the Palm platform, any interest? I'd started to look at the EV1 program that's out there already, and thought that could be a good starting point.

Frankly, the task may be a bit beyond me to do it right, wondering if anyone would be competent/willing to help (good C+ programming?). Also wondering if there's a Palm userbase which could take advantage of the program. I'm probably going to do it anyhow, just for my own personal use/satisfaction. Feedback at this point appreciated.

Regards,
Craig

Ken73

I have a Palm Pilot (Pro) .. one of the early versions. I'd love to be able to use it on mine, but the ECM's I'm going to be using are 160 baud (although I may be using some 8192's later on.) I'd be interested.. I know there were a few others, too.

Ken

Scott 88 GTA

I'd definately be interested. It would be awesome to be able to scan my car using my Palm.

UnderDogRS

i would love to use/help w/ this app. i was think about doing the same thing a little bit ago. i know a little c+. and have a plamV. here are the ecm's that would be nice to be able to scan(or so i think) 7730/7727,7749,7747, and obd-I lt1's(93,94)


HTH,TIA,
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poncho@home

I would definately be interested....but how would you physically interface the palm with the ecu?

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Ken73

The Palm Pilot (at least the early ones) used a "docking station" thing, but you could also buy just a plain cable that connected to it (which is what I have since I carry the cable with me in my laptop case.) You could probably just put a 9-pin RS232 connector somewhere in your car and hook it straight into that. Put all the electronics (transistors/etc.) behind the 9-pin connector so you don't have to chop up your cable. I researched the hardware end of it a while back and it's pretty simple. The Palm Pilots communicate with standard RS232.

Craig, do you have some specs (schematics?) for the cable you're using that I could take a peek at?

BTW, the cable I mention above is STILL available; I actually only recently bought mine (maybe 2-3 months ago?) at Best Buy. (Big electronics store.) The original Palm Pilots up to Palm III I think are the same (not sure.)

Ken

UnderDogRS

the cable would be just like the one we use with laptops. all you would have to do if you already have the laptop one,is make an adapter from a 25pin or 9pin serial to the palm type. and if you dont have a cable. is make a cable that has an OBD-I connector on one end and a palm serial connector on the other.

hth,
RS

Ken73

Does anyone have some specs for the ALDL (OBD-I) to RS232 cable?

Ken

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Hell ya! That would be awesome. I know there were some guys on camaroz28.com that were working on one.

Build it and they will come....

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scanman717

I'm in... Been wondering about this for a while now.

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FSTFBDY

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What kind o fpalm would work best? If you get this working Im gona go get one. Rather then the dinosaur 486laptop.

I alredy have a AKM Cable and your other software.

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Craig Moates

I ordered my first Palm Vx end of last week, but I've been out of the office all this week. When I get back to work tomorrow, it should be there waiting for me. Woo-hoo!

I've already pulled down the Palm Emulator and Rom stuff, have a working Palm on the desktop. Seems like that's the way to develop the code.

I'm thinking the best way to set it up is to keep it rather simple, just log/save the data and then set up an Excel template to dissect/view the data later. However, good calculated-value real-time displays are a must. I'm sensing that the 160 baud is a must, too.

OK, I'm on task for this one. Perhaps we can use this forum for the development discourse? If there are objections from the moderators, please chime in. Otherwise, I'm going to start playing around over the weekend and see where it leads first blush.

Thanks for the input, I'm looking forward to working with you guys!
-Craig

scanman717

I FOUND IT!!! Unfortunately it is OBD-II, but at least it has been done!!

http://www.baumtools.com/ goto special tools from there...

Troy

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^^^

Craig,

Have you looked into this conversion anymore?

Im still interested. Ive been talking to another buddy of mine who is gona try and redo your program in C++ for a Compaq palm format.

Just wanted to bring this back to the top and see if you make it compatable with your palm os

N8MAN1068

bumped b/c i still want one.

Cobra289

Hi Craig,

If you do something that will improve the Real Time data logging you should use the Operating System BeOS.
Palm has bought this OS but they don’t use it.
Sony has used for a while with one of the appliances but nothing more.
BeOS is a Real Time Operating System with enormous capabilities.

Here are some links to the BeOS community:
http://www.bebits.com/search?search=Palm&x=27&y=16
http://www.zetanews.com/
http://www.openbeos.org/

There is also a “BeOS R5 Development Tools” http://www.bebits.com/app/2680
I hope that you like.

Regards,
Cobra289

JohnL

I have the Jonathon Burchmore Palm datalogging software that I use to log from my Techedge WB. It's neat- you can also graph RPM and a couple of other A/D inputs.

C'mon Craig- you could cut your sleep down to 2 hours a night and do this

John

N8MAN1068

what software is this? got a link?
I'd like to see something for the newer palms (T series) that use the little usb connectors. maybe have it dongled 5x for usb to serial to blah blah.

as long as it works.

JohnL

yep

JP84Z430HP

Wow! That's pretty cool, too bad I have a Visor, and they say it doesn't work......

jamesbob02

Definitely interested.

Seeing as how I currently have to use a dinosaur notebook to log using Moates, then transfer to my newer laptop before I can even READ all the data and edit the PROM (lack of serial port and XP issues), I would love to do it in my palm instead of messing with that stupid old laptop.

jeepguy553

I am wondering if the AutoPROM and TunerPro RT could be adapted to a Palm or a Compaq iPaq. Wouldn't that be great? No more laptops in the passenger seat. You could make a little stalk of sorts to hold the palmtop and do your datalogging/tuning from the palm top. Data transfer to/from the palm top to a desktop is self explanatory.
Craig? Mark? Any ideas???

MrDude_1

ive been messing around with porting his old basic scanner code into Visual Basic for PalmPC....and i could then compile it to work with almost any PPC

i was messing with a cassiopeia, but i can try messing with a IPAQ... it SHOULD work... *shrug*

i dont have anything nice or useful done yet though.. just enough to go, gee wiz it works......

jeepguy553

The thing that gets me about a lot of PPCs is that as time has passed, it seems like they have lost a little bit of comms capability. I have a story that is a perfect example of this. It involves some water quality dataloggers and a Compaq iPaq.
If TunerPro could be made to work on a palmtop, that would be an ideal setup IMO.
To me, it almost seems that something written for Win98 should be pretty easily adapted to WinCE. Am I thinking wrong? I know that applications cannot be swapped between the two, but it seems that a set up like Tuner Pro would be easy enough to reconfigure for WinCE or PalmOS.

MrDude_1

it depends on how they're written....

we write handheld computer software, and well, you find that you do have to tweek some things as you go along for each model..

the reason im using VB for CE (now PPC) is because it has a Comm OCX i can just drop on.... and it should work on 99% of the pocket PC compatable devices out there... i loose alot of control, and some speed by using VB on the small device, but the ALDL isnt very fast to begin with, so im not getting alot of data in... it'll all work.. it would be nice to just have a few builds, a MIPS, ARM, ect, and not have to maintain one for each family, and possibly model...

Scott_92RS

I'm going to be working on a Java-based implementation of an ALDL scanner soon. I'm borrowing a buddies Palm Pilot over Christmas, so I may have some time to work on it on the way up to New York.

N8MAN1068

nice
just whomever makes a proggy, make sure it'll work on a palm T|E and you've got your 1st buyer.

JP84Z430HP

FOr the palm stuff, would it be better to develop it on the "More difficult" visor? From there it should work fine on the other Palm OS devices? Prolly just wishful thinking. I would have a better Palm OS device if it weren't for the VERY useful Injectoclean Scope module I have for the visor! Seeing this thing, I would think it couldn't be too bad to get a scanner running on it!

I know it makes things more difficult, but for the visor, wouldn't it be easier to come up with something for the springboard port? It would be nice for me, and the other (maybe) 2 people out there that have them! (LOL)

JohnL

BTW, is it obvious that Craig was 2 and a half years younger when he started this thread?

John

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common this thread is dusty but how bout an 07 update