Extending RPM in spark tables above 4800 in 6E MAF
#1
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charles County, Maryland
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 2000 BMW M5
Extending RPM in spark tables above 4800 in 6E MAF
Hi guys, has anyone ever extended the spark table in a 6E bin to exceed the factory 4800? I am running 6E on a 327 that sees over 6000 rpms and would definitely be able to use the added capability of high rpm spark tables.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RI
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 93 Caprice 9C1
Engine: L05
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Between the sloped adder and the fact that all your timing is probably in WELL before 4800rpm, you don't technically need to customize SA past 4800. That didn't answer your question, of course...
#3
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charles County, Maryland
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 2000 BMW M5
My timing is mostly in before 4800, but not completely. I have 200 psi cranking compression and I do get knock counts if I try to ramp say 34 degrees of timing all in by 3500. I can get 30 in by 3500 and 36 by 4500 and I'm okay.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RI
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 93 Caprice 9C1
Engine: L05
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Just for the sake of argument, my Camaro's stock extended timing table looks exactly the same as the highest point on the main timing table (which ends at 4000rpm). I don't think you'll gain much, if anything.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Glenbeulah, WI
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1988 Firbird
Engine: 406
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 4.10
I have often wondered about how to get higher then 4800 RPM spark tables. If you reduce timing after your peak power point you can extend your power curve, so there is an advantage to being able to control timing at 6000 or 7000 RPM.
#6
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hurst, Texas
Posts: 10,119
Received 428 Likes
on
368 Posts
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 14 bolt with 3.07 gears
I don't see why you would want to reduce timing after peak power? Cylinder pressure is on the downward slope after peak torque.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RI
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 93 Caprice 9C1
Engine: L05
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Plus the combustion cycle has less and less time to complete, and since things burn at the same speed, you need to light it off sooner as RPMs rise...or at least the same.
Trending Topics
#8
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charles County, Maryland
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 2000 BMW M5
Dragracers definitely do retard timing at high rpms. The cylinder temperature and combustion chamber pressure increasing begin to negate the need for lots of timing at really high rpms
#9
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hurst, Texas
Posts: 10,119
Received 428 Likes
on
368 Posts
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 14 bolt with 3.07 gears
Originally posted by 327_TPI_77_Maro
Dragracers definitely do retard timing at high rpms. The cylinder temperature and combustion chamber pressure increasing begin to negate the need for lots of timing at really high rpms
Dragracers definitely do retard timing at high rpms. The cylinder temperature and combustion chamber pressure increasing begin to negate the need for lots of timing at really high rpms
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
777Shock777
Tech / General Engine
4
10-29-2015 04:30 PM
MikkoV
TPI
2
09-09-2015 04:25 PM
mdtoren
Tech / General Engine
0
08-16-2015 05:45 PM