TRAXION

I *could* do something like this. I have the experience and have programmed something similarly before. Basically we are talking about a 'wizard approach' where you step through an application clicking the next button. This is cool but it won't be me that does it. It's time for other people to step up to the plate and do something. If it were me I would do it on the web It is an easy enough application to do it on the web ... and I do web applications like that for my job all the time (I'm a web programmer). Maybe if nobody does this within a year I will look back at it and make it my next project. But, not right now, I've given a crapload of stuff within the past few months (S_AUJP, AFRTuner, all my recent threads on tracking the actual hardcode in ANHT, disabling AIR, etc.).

Tim

87_TA

Tim,
Just D/L'ed the S-AUJP's and the (read me)
of the AUJP-CCP states that CCP is disabled and thats not the case.
May want to change that for future D/Lers.

Hunter Motorsports

The text files attached with eack bin are backwards - the one for "S-AUJP-CCP" should be for "S-AUJP" and vice versa.

S-AUJP DOES NOT have any canister purge.

S-AUJP-CCP has all cannister purge features enabled.

TRAXION

I'm not following. Why do you think they are backwards? I think you are just misinterpreting the naming convention.

S_AUJP_CCP means that CCP is active. The CCP on the filename means that CCP is active.

S_AUJP means no CCP. There's no CCP on the filename so CCP is not there.

Tim

PLANT PROTECTION

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The S_AUJP_CCP.txt indicates that CCP is disabled. The bins are correct, the text files are wrong.

Hunter Motorsports

Exactly - the BIN files are correct - and they are named correctly - it is the .TXT file attached to each bin that is incorrect. The TXT files need to be switched - thats all.

thirdgen88

I've been trying to fit the Super AUJP ROM to my setup to test it out, and I looked at the RPM Limiter setting in Tunerpro and for the fuel cutoff setting it shows $0094 as the hex value and 13713.71 as the calculated value... When I look at the stock AUJP it shows $0062 and 9080 (just like in the ANHT hack).. Am I missing something or does the RPM limiter (fuel cutoff) need to be set to $0047 for 6600 RPM?? (and $0046 for 6500 RPM?)

Someone tell me where I'm going wrong??

PLANT PROTECTION

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Your ECU settings are most likely wrong, every 8d ecu I have seen is incorrect. I have mine set with an element of 2, divide, and a factor of 983040. Mine shows 6642.16 and 6510.20.
BTW, I'm not saying mine is correct because the hac didn't make sense to me, I just stole the settings from a 6e ecu. Can someone verify what they should be?

thirdgen88

Is there a place to go to find to correct algorithms for translating the hex number to the calculated real-world number??

thirdgen88

Okay I'm still confused... Sorry for cluttering up this post, but can we assume that the ANHT hack that I have is incorrect in stating that the Fuel Return is at $3F9?? Isn't it at $3F8?? PLANT PROTECTION, I changed my ECU and that seems to reflect things much better... I've already noticed a couple faults in the ecu I have...

Here's an excerpt from the ANHT hack:

;---------------------------------------
; FUEL CUT OFF/ON PARAMS
;---------------------------------------
L83F4: FCB 255 ; 255 MPH FUEL CUT OFF
L83F5: FDB 0098 ; 9080 RPM FUEL CUT OFF
;
L83F7: FCB 254 ; 254 MPH FUEL RETURN
L83F9: FDB 0103 ; 9544 RPM FUEL RETURN
;-----------------------------------------

TRAXION

Thanks guys - the Files have been updated with the appropriate text files.

Thirdgen88: Make a new post about your ECU file problems.

Tim

91DropTopTA

I just wanted to say that I think it is great that there are guys that have a wealth of knowledge and are willing to share it with people who are just getting into diy chips. I'm having a problem burning this chip. I'm using a willem programmer, but I keep getting a message Error Write Sector 0. Anyone have any idea why I would be getting this message?

3.8TransAM

Ive downloaded it but as of yet, no time to change everything over to my current setup.. And i need to get the latest TC update as well :-)

but looks pretty nice from what i can tell, thanks guys(Trax)
Later
Jeremy

Kevin 88

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I just installed Super AJUP CCP in my bone stock 88 Corvette (after unchecking Mag Speed Sensor)
Runs good.
Can't spend much time behind the wheel until I get my registration sticker.

Thanks.

69 Ghost

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I am new here and just bought a AutoProm for a SD unit. Does anybody have a decent $8D ECU for this chip? I have a demo version of TunerCat and it has everything. I would like something on par and would be willing to put some work into it if I can figure out how to do it. Meanwhile I do not have a lot of faith in the ECU file for editing. As some posts have eluded to the RPM values are wrong and I have changed my Cyl/Vol and it displays incorrectly also. Any starting baseline would be helpful to put this on par with TC. I am also interested some of the CCP stuff etc that SUPER AUJP has set already.

JP84Z430HP

Go to www.diy-efi.org/gmecm and check out the ftp site. There is a lot of stuff there. I've been adding to, and changing the naming on some of the items in the $8D ecu file that's there, and as soon as I do some testing with it, I'll put it up on my site and provide a link. I would put it up there now, but I have broken a few things in it because I didn't understand how some of the math was done!

Oh, and by the way.....Welcome!

69 Ghost

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Thanks for the welcome. I have been to diy-dfi already but have been editing my bin with TC. I have already burned a couple of mods to my chip just to get my AF in line in the lower RPM's. I have looked at the diy-dfi site and there is one ECU that looks very promising which is the 730_atta.ecu. It appears that the guy may be a racer and I looked for a ATTA.bin to see what it was from but didn't find anything. I first thought it was a Vette hack. What I am really hoping for is to build a ECU for the S AUJP and then see if TP will post it so everybody can use it. As for the RT capability I am not there yet.

BTW how do you like those FastBurns and the hot cam setup? I was going to sell my S/R's and go that route but my buddy decided not to get my heads.

TRAXION

The ECU is independent of the binary file. You just need an ECU of the correct mask. $8D ECU for a $8D binary. Please try to limit this discussion to S_AUJP as this is what this post is about. Any other conversations can be conducted under a new post.

Tim

Grumpy

Nope, double byte entries at.
L83F5, and L83F7

Note FCB, and the FDB......

nape

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TRAXION: awesome thread with a wealth of info.

I got an AutoProm a couple of weeks ago and my laptop shipped from Dell today. Hopefully I'll be able to start tuning next week. I'm really looking forward to giving Super AUJP a shot as it encompasses everything I wanted to do right off the bat.

Thanks a bunch man. Hopefully you'll hear from me more in the future. Your efforts aren't being wasted.

69 Ghost

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Traxion. My request for a $8d ECU maybe was not worded correctly. My request is really for a ECU that will be used exclusively for the S AUJP which is why I posted the request here. We have all seen problems looking at some of the displayed values like RPM. I have been to all the known boards. Even some of the other posts here were asking about RPM values displaying properly. With that in mind I would like to thank you and Grumpy for personal replys to my request.

Now for an update I have been working on a ECU file that I want to use as a baseline along with S AUJP. I plan on posting the ECU when I am done. I would like to fix all the known problems and add everything that is known about the ECU even though most people will only use a fraction of what will be there. For the past week and I have added numerous entries to the constants. My next step is to finish the Switches and to work on the tables. My intent is to modify this in parallel with the S AUJP for the ECU guys. The S AUJP project is not dead! I am going to start a new thread called Project Super $8d ECU.

nape

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Holy ****! I just loaded the Super AUJP chip into my GTA and the butt dyno is telling me I gained some major power!

Thanks a bunch for pre-modding this .bin, Traxion. It took me almost two hours to figure out the whole process, but damn is it worth it! The car will actually get real outta shape when I romp it from about 25, the kind of response I expect from a 350

I'm looking forward to learning more and contributing to this project. If you ever need a beta tester, let me know. Thanks again.

nape

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Ok TRAXION, I've been fiddling around with S_AUJP and I started scratching my head reading the "Min ECT for Highway mode SA" box.

When I open it up in TunerPro it comes up as 133*C. When comparing it to the stock AUJP.bin, it says 255*C.

Is that value in hex? If so, how do I convert to decimal?

IroczInOz

I ran the S_AUJP in my car today too for the first time.

I copied my VE and SPARK tables from my custom chip and transfered them over. Took it for a little test drive with data logs and it ran pretty damn smooth

Great work everyone who made this happen!

3.8TransAM

Highway mode is active correct?

Fuel was always active, but Glenn made the changes for the highway spark mode to work better than it did originally in GM's code?

does the super AUJP use Glenn's version of highway mode or as GM intended?

just curious, messing with a few things yet and then im more than likely going to be using the super aujp as a starting point from then on out

later and thanks
Jeremy

TRAXION

Highway mode is active and it does NOT use Glenn's modifications (per say). The only modification of Glenn's that is uses is that Highway mode is not dependent on the Canister Purge. Speaking of Glenn ... has anyone seen him? I haven't seen him post and I haven't talked to him in a long long long time :-\ I hope everything is OK.

Tim

LnealZ28

Well, finally I'm back.........I had ECM troubles which held me up, but here is the initial impression, with no data logs as yet (waiting on the laptop to get here). It seems quite rich for the 305, (no big surprise there) the exhaust is smelly and I came back from driving it smelling like a refinery. No clouds of black smoke though. Also I think the AE is too rich as it bogs when you press the pedal while rolling. It smooths out after it speeds up. Should be an easy fix. If I can get some data logged and iron out these little bugs, we should have a baseline for using it in the 305 which may help others who have this engine. I'll be back after I do some tuning............

TRAXION

Did you change the cylinder size and the injector constant?

Tim

LnealZ28

Yes. I just really need to get some logs before I can say for sure. However it does seem that the fuel should be about right with the inj. constant and cyl. vol. changed to reflect the engine size. I could have some other issue as well, I intend to do some more research tomorrow. Maybe I can coerce my friend into letting me use his scanner tomorrow. I'll get back later...............

Larry

LnealZ28

Well I did some more driving today and it's still rich, but I'm convinced that it doesn't have anything to do with Super AUJP. While cruising the interstate today I got a SES light. Turned out to be a code 45, so I need to look into that. All in all, Super AUJP should be a fine starting point with a 305, just like it is, after changing inj. constant and cyl. vol. of course. Good work, Tim!

LnealZ28

Update:
Found that the IAT plug had slipped out of the sensor under the plenum, this seems to have solved the richness problem. No codes and Super AUJP works perfectly with the old LB9. Now to get that stroker in there.............patience, patience.

JP86SS

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Where can I find this file?
I'm looking for the ECU file and the bin. This is the setup I;m starting with and it sound like you guys ahve made good progress with it.
Thanks from a newbie.

LnealZ28

Earlier in this thread, near the bottom of page 1. I highly recommend it.

JP86SS

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Thanks for the quick response , There has been other talk of the ECU file being fully mapped out. any Ideas where that may be hiding?
I have looked at several and found a few discrepancies as to the "naming" used for knock retard/recovery rate and the functions based on time, rpm and such that I want to find the best available data on the 730 8D layout. It seems the $58 may be another route, I'll do some more reading.
I'm using the AutoProm with bin stacking and can run multiple setups, Is it possible to run different setups completely (within wiring limitations) ?? I never even considered that until reading some of the posts here.

JP86SS

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Kinda took this off the topic abit, move that 8D ecu request if needed.
I am going to load up the S_AUJP and give it a good workout here in a week or so. I'll post some results.
I didn't realize so many people are using this setup, I basically sat down and just figured out what setup I could find info on, the years and sensors and try to burn my own programs basically so I can mod anything I want and not pay for each tweak. (because nothing is ever good enough).
I ripped out a Gen II Accell system (crap) and fully rewired the my ride to match the 92' Z. It just happened to work out great now that I've found this board and people who are working with the same types of problems of cold stall, bad idles, and just getting them to hustle the way they should.
Thanks for the help, just in reading the posts I've came across a wealth of info and will be reading for a while yet.

89 Iroc Z

So does the S_AUJP bin contain the WB hac or not?

69 Ghost

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I have finally gotten back into programming my car with S_AUJP and I am having a bit of a problem that stumps me. I am getting a code 54 error with the chip but before anybody says relay or ECU here is my scenario. I have a retro TPI setup that is running a 7727 computer (weather proof 7730) with a aftermarket harness setup like a 91 Vette. The chip, ECU, and harness came from a fly by night house that I believe is not is business anymore. Either way the code 54 problem has plaged me somewhat in the past and I am experienced in diagnosing it. The car used to die for no apparent reason and it was a code 54. After a relay and ECU change it was fixed -it took 2 ECU's. Meanwhile I also went in and added a oil pressure switch to keep it from dying on the freeways -so much for the retro harnesses. So far so good. Along comes S_AUJP and I burn a chip with a AutoProm, and use the Moates adapter. Everything runs fine except I don't get a 2 second fuel pump burst and after a hard start the check engine light comes on and I have a code 54. When I pull out the adapter and put the original chip back in place no code 54. Also if I take the oil press circuit and run it directly from the battery there is no code. The original PROM ID is 1910 but searching resulted to nothing I could map to. Any ideas on this one? It almost appears that the bin code is slightly different or somehow I need to pin my ECU differently? I want to continue to use S_AUJP instead of mimicking it with my original burn because of some of the hardcoding done already. Any suggestions on this one would be helpful.....

Grumpy

Get an ohm meter, and a 8' length of jumper wire and pin by pin check every connection.

Yes, it's a royal PITB, but if the harness is off, then your going to forever chase ghosts.
And double check for vacuum routes, and leaks.

;-------------------------------------
; ERROR 54, BATTERY VOLTAGE
;-------------------------------------
L82A9: FCB 15 ; IF VOLTAGE LO FOR 1.5 SEC SET ERR
L82AA: FCB 20 ; IF PUMP VOLTAGE < 2V SET ERR 54
L82AB: FCB 20 ; IF PUMP VOLTAGE < 2V SET ERR 54
L82AC: FCB 20 ; IF IGN VOLTAGE < 2V SKIP ERR 54 CHK


Here's the conditions for a code 54 in the 8D code.

Off hand sounds like something fubar'd in the pump wiring. Is that circuit all in the oem configuration?.

JP86SS

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Looking at the "Y" wiring diagram, there is a connection on the serial data to a central control module.
The lack of this comunication may be disabled or bypassed in the original chip if it does not throw the code with it in.
The AUJP (I think) does not have any type of interaction with another control via comunication.
Something I thought of when reading this post.
I was going to set my new wired system up to more closly match the "Y" but could not find info on what the interaction of the modules were. So I went with the "F" "8" setup instead to limit my possible complications.
There might be something there that is causing it.

69 Ghost

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There is no CCM as this is a retrofit with the aftermarket harness. I have not tried to reburn my original chip with my new parameters but the wiring has been checked. I will take Grumpy's advice and recheck it and maybe see if something needs to be reversed here for the AUJP chip. What bothers me about this is that if I plug the original back in there are no problems but I did recall that I did have to disconnect the computer before it worked. I know the 7730 is supposed to be identical to the 7727 but what would make the dif here? The assumption is that it is in the code. I think it would help if I could find out what the PROM ID 1910 came out of. Funny thing is I dealt with this guy for a while and every time I asked him a specific question I got the run around. I actually had the pump wire come out and end up in a different pin location and I had to get the diagram to find the right location. I also asked this yahoo about a VSS for my 200-4R for the TCC control and he would not give me a straight answer as to if it was even enabled in the chip burn so I went with a vacuum switch which was a pain. Interestingly enough all the smog, etc was there in the burn so it tells me the chip probably had no real mods what so ever. A check with it and S_AUJP did not tell me anything out of the ordinary. It is OK because I actually learned more than I am sure he ever knew. I am almost at the point to ask Traxtion or Grumpy what I need to do to hardcode the bin file to the S_AUJP mods so I can use a Vette bin or just my original with the mods but I would like the hardcoded portion. Also I have a buddy that is good at coding -he has done chips and stuff for flight control systems. He just got a LT1 car and I was talking to him about making a super bin where we take the best of everything. I am interested in a bin that can control a computer controlled tranny that would work with a gen 1 engine setup.

JP86SS

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I've gotten to the point of no codes and running strong with the S_AUJP.bin.
Nice work as a baseline file:hail:
I am breaking loose severly at second (gotta get off it) and chirping nice hitting third .
I have some VE work to do on the lower end with high loads (little lean for my car) and some other small tweaks, then I will go back over the tables and get them nailed down exactly.
All in all, I'm moving along well.
Must get WB to see exactly where I'm at when I'm stompin' but am looking good.
Once I get some full runs logged I'll post them up somewhere.
Anyone else still working with this?

Black 91 Z28

I put it in my car to see how it works and it seems to work well. I copied my latest VE table into it. Seems to stumble a little at first but then picks up and goes. I know it wasn't made with mods in mind so that's probably the cause of the stumble. Nevertheless, it seems to work well and I'm gonna continue to play with it.

Thanks Traxion,

David

69 Ghost

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After getting all my other projects fixed associated with this one and tuning the VE tables for my cam and injector sizing I have finally run this on a serious drive. My impressions are that this is running much stronger than my previous burn. It should be noted that I am running this on a retrofit with no smog, etc. and that this was a perfect start for me with PROM burning.

TRAXION

Super AUJP updated to include some IAC throttle follower changes.

Max IAC Steps (Absolute) changed to 231 from 160.
Max IAC Steps in Drive changed to 230 from 40.
Throttle follower slope gain is now 1/4 of the original value.
IAC Steps vs. MPH zeroed out.

Why? Decreasing the slope gain will cause the IAC to open slower when getting on the gas. This allows for more acceleration control ... especially from a dead stop. Increasing the total steps (absolute and drive) allows the IAC to open more during WOT. The steps vs. drive were zeroed out because there is no need for them with the other settings being changed and it is one less IAC variable in the mix. Big thanks to Rob for his help on this topic (the following post).

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=220604

The new files are up on Craig's site under Custom Modified Binaries and will be hosted there from here on out ....

http://www.moates.net/fileman/

Tim

JP86SS

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I just got back from a few data runs and the power is real nice.
I'll give the new on a try as well.
GOOD JOB ! and Thanks for the share

69 Ghost

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While S-AUJP is being modified how bout one with the extended VE tables per the patch? It could make life a little easier for those of us running them. I also have the table defined in Super_8d already so it is just a matter of selecting the correct table.

TRAXION

I've thought about this but I am still on the fence about it. I already talked to RBob awhile ago and asked his permission to use it and was given the go ahead. However, I worry that somebody might want to use this as a starting binary and then program their own code into it. They might end up overwriting that area of the PROM (because is suppose to be blank ... but isn't) and then cause problems in those higher RPM areas. That's my worry.


Tim

89 Iroc Z

Tim,
Why isn't the WBO2 hack part of the Super AUJP code?

TRAXION

Because it produces a steady check engine light. Nobody wants that Plus, my AFRTuner will insert it and remove it at will.

Tim

JP86SS

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As a beginner at this as well, I feel it best to keep the code as it was and make the tweaks to get a clean starting point.
That was the original intention of the file as I understand it.
There's always a better place to offer an enhance (patched) SS_AUJP.
For me it's better to be on the std side and have a solid basline to work with.
Currently it is working out well for me anyway in learning the adjustments and "cause and effect" issues.
Later when my feet are good and wet, I can apply patches or do what I want such as the extended tables, WB patch etc.
Adding to this one would put the baseline into a custom catergory and be as confusing to new guys with so many "don't do this unless you do this too "and will probably become unused by beginners.
That would be a waste of a solid foundation.
OK, Rant off.

I "suggest " leave as baseline and
My most appreciative $0.02