Why does AE stop @ 25% TPS
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Why does AE stop @ 25% TPS
This is for the 747, does AE clip @ 25% or is there a slope adder or other calculation. Or is the ECM just supposed to catch up by then on fuel (ie" over 25% delta tps).
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Re: Why does AE stop @ 25% TPS
Originally posted by Low C1500
This is for the 747, does AE clip @ 25% or is there a slope adder or other calculation. Or is the ECM just supposed to catch up by then on fuel (ie" over 25% delta tps).
This is for the 747, does AE clip @ 25% or is there a slope adder or other calculation. Or is the ECM just supposed to catch up by then on fuel (ie" over 25% delta tps).
Interestingly enough the '8746 TBI ECM only goes to 12.5% TPS delta. Lighter vehicle, less demand for AE.
It has been known to use a large value for the last table entry. And, can lengthen the AE duration with the AE filter coeficient tables (TPS & MAP).
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AE based on load takes over from there.
On some of the codes where they have more steps, it's almost too much to dither, and make sense of, the Load vs TPS AE.
So far, it seems to work out fine.
On some of the codes where they have more steps, it's almost too much to dither, and make sense of, the Load vs TPS AE.
So far, it seems to work out fine.
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Re: Re: Why does AE stop @ 25% TPS
Originally posted by RBob
Interestingly enough the '8746 TBI ECM only goes to 12.5% TPS delta. Lighter vehicle, less demand for AE.
Interestingly enough the '8746 TBI ECM only goes to 12.5% TPS delta. Lighter vehicle, less demand for AE.
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I'm having some succsess with runing a big map AE, like 1.5x bigger than my tps table. Its too bad though, I think a 100% tps table would be good, Or maybe that would cause problems with too much fuel.
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Originally posted by Low C1500
I'm having some succsess with runing a big map AE, like 1.5x bigger than my tps table. Its too bad though, I think a 100% tps table would be good, Or maybe that would cause problems with too much fuel.
I'm having some succsess with runing a big map AE, like 1.5x bigger than my tps table. Its too bad though, I think a 100% tps table would be good, Or maybe that would cause problems with too much fuel.
On the Gn code it goes to 100%, and noone seems to even bother tuning with it, other then me, and I probably could get by with just the LV8 AE.
Might try adding a lil in the VE table in like the 70-80 K/Pa range.
Might look and see what the max asyn pulse lenght is.
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The reason I posted this topic, is cause when I floor it from under say 1200rpm it falls flat on its face after I installed the 454 tbi, but If only half throttle is applied its fine. Above 1500rpm no problem. And at the slow reading rate I get with winaldl scanner its hard to fix the problem.
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Originally posted by Low C1500
The reason I posted this topic, is cause when I floor it from under say 1200rpm it falls flat on its face after I installed the 454 tbi, but If only half throttle is applied its fine. Above 1500rpm no problem. And at the slow reading rate I get with winaldl scanner its hard to fix the problem.
The reason I posted this topic, is cause when I floor it from under say 1200rpm it falls flat on its face after I installed the 454 tbi, but If only half throttle is applied its fine. Above 1500rpm no problem. And at the slow reading rate I get with winaldl scanner its hard to fix the problem.
If things were perfect with the smaller throttle body.
And there is a 300 RPM range of where you go from works to doesn't work, you might have been just border line on the converter, and now need a slightly looser one. Depending on who does it, there's alot of room in what can be done with a converter, with stall vs flash speed.
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This winter I actually was thinking of going with a brand name converter, I was looking at the hughes 3500, or the B&M 3200. Should be a nice mod as my current one is still 12", and these ones are both 10".
As far as fuel goes I flatened out my ve table from 70 Kpa higher at every rpm row. Now Its a lot better. Seems to be that my vac fuel regulator was making me go rich with the intial drop in vacumm.
As far as fuel goes I flatened out my ve table from 70 Kpa higher at every rpm row. Now Its a lot better. Seems to be that my vac fuel regulator was making me go rich with the intial drop in vacumm.
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Originally posted by Low C1500
As far as fuel goes I flatened out my ve table from 70 Kpa higher at every rpm row. Now Its a lot better. Seems to be that my vac fuel regulator was making me go rich with the intial drop in vacumm.
As far as fuel goes I flatened out my ve table from 70 Kpa higher at every rpm row. Now Its a lot better. Seems to be that my vac fuel regulator was making me go rich with the intial drop in vacumm.
If you'd like to try changing the delta TPS% AE table to double the range (halve the resolution) change this:
Go to location $77B in the bin, should be $48, change it to $01.
Now the delta TPS% table goes from 0 to 50%, so move the original values down in the table and add larger values from the midpoint (now 25% delta) up.
Also check location $006, bit 7 to be set (a 1). It should already be but you never know.
LD006: FCB $C0 ; Opt Word, 1100 0000
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; b7 = 1 = select filtered tps option for accel enrich
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Re: Re: Re: Why does AE stop @ 25% TPS
Originally posted by kevm14
8746 is used in the 89 and 90 Caprices (which are obviously heavy) and I just checked my $62 in TunerCat - same deal, 12.5 max. Maybe it's just an issue with conserving memory on those tiny 4k EPROMs.
8746 is used in the 89 and 90 Caprices (which are obviously heavy) and I just checked my $62 in TunerCat - same deal, 12.5 max. Maybe it's just an issue with conserving memory on those tiny 4k EPROMs.
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RBob,
What will changing my tps from 0-25%, to 0-50% do for the resolution between table values. Does the ECM just use a straight line slope of the upper and lower values when a value is between two table values.
Or what a second.......from your papers, its just a first lag filter right.
What will changing my tps from 0-25%, to 0-50% do for the resolution between table values. Does the ECM just use a straight line slope of the upper and lower values when a value is between two table values.
Or what a second.......from your papers, its just a first lag filter right.
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Originally posted by Low C1500
RBob,
What will changing my tps from 0-25%, to 0-50% do for the resolution between table values. Does the ECM just use a straight line slope of the upper and lower values when a value is between two table values.
Or what a second.......from your papers, its just a first lag filter right.
RBob,
What will changing my tps from 0-25%, to 0-50% do for the resolution between table values. Does the ECM just use a straight line slope of the upper and lower values when a value is between two table values.
Or what a second.......from your papers, its just a first lag filter right.
Of course with the AE code in EPROM, and lots of EGR table space, the AE table can be expanded.
RBob.
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16 point is better than I thought it would be.
Rbob do you have a copy of your fueling paper? as DIYEFI is still own I think.
Rbob do you have a copy of your fueling paper? as DIYEFI is still own I think.
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