Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-20-2011, 03:20 AM
  #1  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
88gunmetalgta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,013
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Many agree that the factory water pump should be upgraded when swapping in a firebreathing 383 stroker.

"Better than stock" water pumps range from $40 to $200+ on Summit
Is there a particular one that the TGO community agrees is a good one to go with?
Old 03-20-2011, 05:42 AM
  #2  
Junior Member

 
crackitoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Syracuse,NY
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: Shafiroff 434
Transmission: Jake's Performance Stage 4 TH400
Axle/Gears: Strange S60/spool w/ 3.73's
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

i have an edelbrock victor series on my 434. they're a little pricey at $171 each but well worth it.

ern
Old 03-20-2011, 09:27 AM
  #3  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (15)
 
//<86TA>\\'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 12,666
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 48 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Originally Posted by crackitoff
i have an edelbrock victor series on my 434. they're a little pricey at $171 each but well worth it.

ern
same one on my 408, its been really good to me, have had it for 7 years now on 2 different engines
Old 03-20-2011, 10:16 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member

 
camaronewbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Cary, North Carolina
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

I'm curious here, so just asking ...

383 is a 350, bored/stroked/whatever right? So we're still dealing with the same block with same water passages etc. Why would it need anything different than my 350? Does the fact that the piston size changed, the stroke changed, whatever make a 383 run hotter than a 350? I mean I guess higher compression I could see making more heat, but again, it's still a 350 block. I have 10:1 compression in my 350, doesn't run any hotter than a 8:1 or 9:1 compression motor.

So, wouldn't a standard off-the-shelf parts store heavy duty pump suffice?
Old 03-20-2011, 04:00 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
88gunmetalgta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,013
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Horsepower makes heat. Its just a fact of life. Anything that allows you to get more fuel into the engine is gonna make your cooling system work harder. Could be an increase in displacement (350-383), a larger cam, NOS, even a CAI lets you burn a little more fuel.


Thanks for the input guys.
Old 03-20-2011, 04:24 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (15)
 
//<86TA>\\'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 12,666
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 48 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Originally Posted by camaronewbie
I'm curious here, so just asking ...

383 is a 350, bored/stroked/whatever right? So we're still dealing with the same block with same water passages etc. Why would it need anything different than my 350? Does the fact that the piston size changed, the stroke changed, whatever make a 383 run hotter than a 350? I mean I guess higher compression I could see making more heat, but again, it's still a 350 block. I have 10:1 compression in my 350, doesn't run any hotter than a 8:1 or 9:1 compression motor.

So, wouldn't a standard off-the-shelf parts store heavy duty pump suffice?

like the other guy said, horsepower makes heat, and my 408 makes more power than a 350 or 383 with the same internal parts. the 434 is a 400 block.

the victor series is also aluminum, so there is a good chunk of cheap weight reduction right there as well.

the OP lists a
firebreathing 383 stroker
so i would think a better pump is in order, despite what i think about that particular engine ever being what more people would consider
firebreathing

Last edited by //<86TA>\\; 03-20-2011 at 04:27 PM.
Old 03-20-2011, 04:32 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
88gunmetalgta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,013
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Hey, that term was just an effect of posting at 3am, and not wanting to go through and list off all the parts.

Even if its not quite
firebreathing
it could still use a cooling system upgrade.
Old 03-20-2011, 06:04 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (15)
 
//<86TA>\\'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 12,666
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 48 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread

Originally Posted by 88gunmetalgta

it could still use a cooling system upgrade.
yes it could, im not disagreeing with you on that
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
evilstuie
Tech / General Engine
22
01-09-2020 08:29 PM
evilstuie
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Wanted
15
04-14-2016 08:52 PM
MoJoe
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
11
09-24-2015 09:12 PM
1985chevydude
Engine Swap
1
08-22-2015 05:36 AM
Dialed_In
Firebirds for Sale
2
08-20-2015 01:45 PM



Quick Reply: Another ambiguously titled water pump thread



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:40 AM.